The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[LA RAM FAN]

daws101, what is your take on the whole thing? Single shooter or multiple shooters?

until recently I was a multiple shooter guy(I had read all the books saw the investigation in 78.
then I watched a documentary series called "beyond the magic bullet"
the investigators did experiments no one had ever done before (at least not with the much attention to details) and that changed my mind.
For instance where Connelly's seat was and what grassy knoll shot would really have done ,if anyone had been there.

if your saying that you think oswald fired that rifle which only a retard would believe, and there was no conspiracy,you have been brainwashed.Not only do you have witnesses who were harrassed by the police for saying they saw a rifleman behind the picket fence and there are photographs that back it up,you have all dallas doctors saying it was an ENTRANCE wound to the forehead and throat.sounds like another troll has penetrated this site.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You won't admit you have no defense for your delusions, but change the subject and never address what you could never explain.

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Wow...............there aren't enough words to describe how stupid that is.
7forever, you were right about ONE thing. I have definitely wasted my time talking to you about this. I came to this thread looking for some adult conversation on an interesting event in history. What I got was some of the most illogical garbage I have ever heard.

Your other half, claiming that I have ran from ANYTHING is rather comical. He has claimed that I have lied on multiple occasions, and I have asked him to supply these to me..............he has not been able. Please bring up a lie that I have stated, and we will talk about it. I am glad to discuss any subject or issue with anyone as long as they will respond when questioned. But neither of you are capable of doing that. I have been asking about the seating position of the Connolly's for a couple pages now..............still no discussion. Just denial, with no explanation.

Wow, there aren't enough words to describe how stupid your replies have been.
You are right about ONE thing. You have definitely wasted your time talking about this. You came to this thread looking to troll an obvious truth and failed over and over. What you provided was illogical garbage and simple avoidance of reality.

You never discussed anything with anyone. You ran from reality, asking stupid questions while dodging the many pink elephants in this case. You nor anyone are capable of dealing with facts that cannot be refuted, so you ignore them and change the subject to bullshit like Connally. You have never addressed the fact that Greer's left arm crossing in nix proves Zapruder film alteration, something that was never done before my work.

amen to that.this is your best post ever on this thread.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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Can't even articulate your own response?
I noticed, as usual, you dodged the question I asked. To show something that I have lied about.
You know you can't find anything, because there isn't anything. I'm not the one on here trying to SELL some stupid theory...........you are. And judging by the responses to YOU on here, everyone knows that.
Every conversation I've had with others was exchange of opinions and points of view. Conversations with you are more for comic relief. We all need a few laughs per day. Especially with quotes like "the word I have done" and "never done before my work". You obviously fancy yourself some kind of hero for exposing the "TRUTH". So go ahead and parrot this stuff over and over on every forum you can. It's never going to be seen as anything more than "one of those stupid theories".

The driver killing Kennedy will be believed by every person who sees his left arm cross that doesn't have a stake in still trying to cover up the truth. Very few people will do anything but laugh your asses off at how completely obvious it is that Greer killed jfk. Message boards are filled with idiots and tons of speculative nonsense. A few trolls on each forum had their minds made up and once they saw the truth finally proven, they denied it.

If you posted the nix close-up on youtube and said his arm didn't cross, people would laugh at you because it's a blatant lie. You can only win in your delusional mind on message boards. The comic relief is for everyone who has read the hundreds of mock posts of mine stemming from crazies like yourself. You can't stop posting because in your deluded mind you think it makes a difference to dump a few pellets on my perfect lawn.

you so much speak the truth here.Yeah they would laugh their asses off at this retard for saying his left arm never went around.These posters are obviously paid trolls.I show the nix film to people I know in REAL life and unlike these trolls,they see it EVERYTIME that Greer shot Kennedy.of course these trolls will come on here and lie "like they always do in their posts." claiming they show it to people they know in real life and they agree with them.yeah right.their HANDLERS do,but thats it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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There is plenty of good, solid, reliable, credible ACTUAL evidence of Oswald's involvement.

That's called a reality-based FACTUALLY accurate statement.

No wonder it gets you so confused.

Even a jury of the dumbest crack heads would reject your claim that Oswald fired the fatal shot.

Not only refutable but refuted and proven false.

There is no reasonable interpretation of any image to support a claim that Oswald shot Kennedy.

You have been proven wrong and your stupidity is absolute evidence that you know you are wrong and beaten.

But in the in end, that's the evidence they base their government delusions on...the lack of evidence.

You have no case, no evidence and no proof. There is a gun in the video and a shot taken. Even with the worst of imaginations, you can see the gun.

Greer had the only shot.

There is tons of evidence to support these claims and in fact no evidence the government's conclusions are anything but nonsense.

Declaring the government was correct is all you people have. You have produced no evidence of any kind.

You have failed to offer a shred of evidence and are beaten.

Oswald fired no shots, including the fatal shot.

it never gets old watching you show off what dumbfuck retard LIAR ability is and how he constantly lies all the time like the agent he is.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

In reality, the glint of sunlight off the passenger's hair is clearly very fake, always was and not remotely surprising. Sunlight does not recoil.

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There is plenty of good, solid, reliable, credible ACTUAL evidence of Oswald's involvement.

That's called a reality-based FACTUALLY accurate statement.

No wonder it gets you so confused.

There is no good, solid, credible or ACTUAL evidence of Oswald shooting jfk.

That's called a reality-based FACTUALLY accurate statement.

No wonder you are so easily mocked.

yep yep and yep.Liar ability should be embarrassed to even come here and show off what a dumbfuck he is by now.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The only liar here is, as all can plainly see, the idiot liar with no ability.

No shot fired by Oswald.

No gun.

No wound path.

Just made up bullshit that americans rejected back in the 60's.

A liar is not capable of honesty.

In order to make your post, you have proved that you are indifferent to facts and that you have no shred of honesty.

Your gif was also outside the bounds of the TOS, you shithead.

With 7forever's idiocy aside....................

Liability & Obamerican, what is your opinion of the whole thing.............single or multiple shooters?

I love how these disinfo agent paid trolls PRETEND they are not agents and PRETEND they dont know what the other one already is paid to do.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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"Message boards are filled with idiots and tons of speculative nonsense".................you are absolute proof of THAT!

"Message boards are filled with pussies who refuse to deal with reailty".................you are absolute proof of THAT!

yep, yep and yep. it SHOULD read message boards are filled with paid AGENTS who refuse to deal with reality.they would not keep coming back for their ass beatings trying to derail this thread if they were not well paid.they would leave and not come back like that one lone nut theorist did when you took him to school.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

7 has been banned on so many political message boards it's getting kind of sad.

yeah the truth hurts the feelings of so many people in denial like you,thats whats sad. so since they know they cant refute it like you all cant,the chickenshits take the easy way out and ban him.too bad the truth hurts.

Happens with 9/11 truthers all the time,they get banned at message boards constantly because people like you are afraid of the truth and the truth hurts so they do the chickenshit thing and ban them.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You are a lowlife retard without a morsel of common sense.

yeah thats what I was saying before,the trolls always ignore how the secret service violated all standard protocals,destroyed and removed evidence,committed a crime aginst the laws of texas removing the body from the hospital for an autopsy,the dallas police removed evidence and NONE of them went to jail.not to mention as I mentioned before,witnesses testified the warren commission ALTERED their testimonys such as the two ladys who said they were going down the stairs in the time frame they said oswald went down the stairs but they somehow missed him.yep no government coverup.

i think I will take the trolls off ignore just for a minute to watch the monkeys sling shit in defeat like the trolls they are. just for a minute.dont know how YOU can tolerate watching them make up lies to support the governments version.[/QUOTE]

Just like I predicted.Like clockwork,the trolls ran away with their tails between their legs when challenged to refute this post.Never fails. they do this EVERYTIME.they ignore it because they know its the truth and they cant refute it.case closed that we have nothing but paid trolls here seven. they are so predictable,they run off EVERYTIME I make this post. they run away because they know they cant get around the FACT that the commission altered their testimonys which itself is a crime and that the commission altered the testimony of the two girls who said they were going down the stairs in the same timeframe oswald allegedly fired the rifle.I knew they would not address it,cause they so much know they will make themselves look like the dumbfuck morons they are if they even try cause they know they cant counter or refute it,they are so predicatable.:lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The driver killing Kennedy is irrefutable and will never be challenged, just ignored by WC idiots and theorists like Groden and Marrs. The masses will decide this and laugh at obvious it is. A handgun was used in the killing and that fact is indisputable, plus three films prove Greer's arm movements caused the headshot.

It's impossible to shoot someone from the back that was shot from the front. The whole Oswald lie is retarded which no ever believed after seeing Zapruder.

When a person gets shot from the rear they go forward like this guy. Jfk was killed by the driver with no evidence to the contrary.

the trolls of course will ignore this post since it does not fit the warren commission.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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I am most definitely not changing the subject. This is a subject I have been trying to get you to answer for quite a while now. All you have said is "he's not in the way". We can see quite clearly that he is over against his wife and therefore could not have had a bullet fired between them. This makes all the claims about guns, reflections and fake hands irrelevant if the shot couldn't be made.

You most definitely are changing the subject. The issue is Greer's guilt based on tons of evidence that was left ignored for 4.5 decades. We can see quite clearly that Greer passes the gun in Zapruder and his real left arm crosses in both other films. That proves he was the shooter and you as a denialist cannot deal with those facts so you change the subject to non-issues.

yeah it was funny watching him change the subject everytime he knew he was losing the debate.:lol thats what piad trolls do just like their handlers pay them.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You won't admit you have no defense for your delusions, but change the subject and never address what you could never explain.

Fact: Greer has a gun.
Failure: It could be a gun but it's covered.
Fact: If it's not a gun then why would the object be covered?
Failure: I don't know why?LOL
Fact: The hand is proven fake by showing his left arm crossing in both other films.
Failure: What you say is a gun is the reflection he passsed from his right to left hand.
Fact: The reflection is fake because it recoils and separates from Roy's head. His left arm crossing is the reason why three fake reflections were added to Zapruder, to mirror Greer's arm movements when he shot jfk.
Failure: Why then does the reflection move with Kellerman's head and not with Greer's arm?
Fact: Because during the alteration they took Kellerman's movements to block the gun's view and added obvious fake reflections (to the Zfilm) that look exactly like a gun, hand, and arm which mimic Greer's true arm movements which are seen clearly in the nix and muchmore films.

as usual.he gets his ass handed to him on a platter from you.

They just go in circles, always ignoring facts. That's been happening for 47 years, only now has the real truth emerged.

thats why at this point,I think its time to move on and ignore these trolls.they resort to lies,ignore facts,ignore witness testimonys,dont address points you bring up,and evade it by changeing the subject.they ignored and did not address at LEAST 3 of my points when I challenged them to,they just ran off with their tail between their legs like the chickenshit cowards they are.
might as well wait to some NEW paid troll comes on.these dumbfucks are a joke, pathetic and a waste of time.Like you said,you just go around in cirlces with them and thats because their handlers pay them to try and derail this thread.

 

[Liability]

There is plenty of good, solid, reliable, credible ACTUAL evidence of Oswald's involvement.

That's called a reality-based FACTUALLY accurate statement.

No wonder it gets you so confused.

There is no good, solid, credible or ACTUAL evidence of Oswald shooting jfk.

That's called a reality-based FACTUALLY accurate statement.

No wonder you are so easily mocked.

yep yep and yep.Liar ability should be embarrassed to even come here and show off what a dumbfuck he is by now.

9/11 Rimjob: The ONLY individuals in the entire universe who take you and your rancid, irrational, illogical and thoroughly dishonest claims seriously are other hapless, helpless, hopeless fuckwits like yourself and the idiot you are busy trying to blow, 7forNever.

Every time you give a "thanks" to the asshole 7forNever, it's a confirmation to all intelligent rational people that 7fornever is a drooling imbecile and a rancid scumbag ***** liar, like you.

True story.

 

[Rationalist1016]

as usual.he gets his ass handed to him on a platter from you.

They just go in circles, always ignoring facts. That's been happening for 47 years, only now has the real truth emerged.

thats why at this point,I think its time to move on and ignore these trolls.they resort to lies,ignore facts,ignore witness testimonys,dont address points you bring up,and evade it by changeing the subject.they ignored and did not address at LEAST 3 of my points when I challenged them to,they just ran off with their tail between their legs like the chickenshit cowards they are.
might as well wait to some NEW paid troll comes on.these dumbfucks are a joke, pathetic and a waste of time.Like you said,you just go around in cirlces with them and thats because their handlers pay them to try and derail this thread.

Well, the rest of us have already moved on to real conversations.
But good effort on making it look like YOU are the one taking the high road.

 

[Liability]

It was Col. Mustard in the Parlor with a wrench.

Mystery solved.

 

[daws101]

daws101, what is your take on the whole thing? Single shooter or multiple shooters?

until recently I was a multiple shooter guy(I had read all the books saw the investigation in 78.
then I watched a documentary series called "beyond the magic bullet"
the investigators did experiments no one had ever done before (at least not with the much attention to details) and that changed my mind.
For instance where Connelly's seat was and what grassy knoll shot would really have done ,if anyone had been there.

if your saying that you think oswald fired that rifle which only a retard would believe, and there was no conspiracy,you have been brainwashed.Not only do you have witnesses who were harrassed by the police for saying they saw a rifleman behind the picket fence and there are photographs that back it up,you have all dallas doctors saying it was an ENTRANCE wound to the forehead and throat.sounds like another troll has penetrated this site.

your ignorance is laughable....retard,troll, schill, heard it all before none of it is true ,but then guys like you have a hard time with reality anyway.

 

[7forever]

Legacy of Suspicion
Decades After, Few Accept the Official Explanation for JFK Assassination

Analysis
By Gary Langer

Nov. 16— Forty years later, suspicions of a conspiracy endure: Seven in 10 Americans think the assassination of John F. Kennedy was the result of a plot, not the act of a lone killer — and a bare majority thinks that plot included a second shooter on Dealey Plaza.
ABCNEWS has completed a poll in conjunction with a two-hour ABCNEWS special, Peter Jennings Reporting: The Kennedy Assassination — Beyond Conspiracy, airing 9-11 p.m. (EST) Thursday, Nov. 20. The program includes a computer-generated reconstruction of the shooting that confirms that Oswald was the lone gunman. And it finds no persuasive evidence of a conspiracy to kill the president.

Just 32 percent accept the Warren Commission's 1964 finding that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone when he shot Kennedy as his motorcade passed through downtown Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Fifty-one percent think there was a second gunman, and seven percent go so far as to think Oswald wasn't involved at all.

Sixty-eight percent of Americans also think there was "an official cover-up" to hide the truth about the assassination from the public. And about as many, 65 percent, think that "important unanswered questions" remain, four decades after Kennedy's death.

While such suspicions are well-documented — and well-stoked by conspiracy theorists — for many people they're guesses, not convictions. In a new follow-up question, fewer than half of Americans, four in 10, say they're "pretty sure" there was a plot; another three in 10 say it's just a hunch. Similarly, half of those who suspect a second shooter say this, too, is just their hunch.

Trend

Suspicion has been long-running; as far back as 1966, a Harris poll found that 46 percent of Americans thought there was a "broader plot" in the assassination. This jumped to 60 percent in 1967, after New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison filed charges alleging a conspiracy (the man he charged, Clay Shaw, was acquitted in 1969).


Kennedy Assasination, 40 Years Later
Time Suspect a Plot Think it Was One Man
Sep. 66 46% 34
Feb. 67 44 35
Sep. 67 60 24
Nov. 83 80 13
Dec. 91 73 11
Nov. 03 70 22




Belief in a broader plot peaked at 80 percent in a 1983 ABCNEWS poll; it's since eased a bit, to today's 70 percent. Similarly, the number of people who think there was an official cover-up has moved back from its peak, 81 percent in 1993, to 68 percent now.

The Film

The director Oliver Stone reinvigorated the debate with the December 1991 release of JFK, his film based on Garrison's investigation. The movie today is widely known — four in 10 Americans say they've seen it, and nearly as many have heard or read about it. But its impact on public opinion is debatable.

Twenty percent of Americans say the film made them more likely to think there was a conspiracy behind the assassination. But many of them may have held that view even without the film's influence. The overall number who suspect a conspiracy is the same now as it was in a poll leading up to the movie's release, before many people had a chance to see it. And as noted, suspicions of a plot peaked in 1983, long before the film was made.

The movie in any case has attracted a conspiracy-minded crowd. Suspicion of a plot peaks at 81 percent of those who've seen it, compared to about six in 10 of those who've only heard or read about it, or don't know about it at all. Similarly, 63 percent of viewers suspect there was a second gunman; that declines to 43 percent of those who haven't seen the film. And 78 percent of viewers suspect a cover-up, compared to 61 percent of non-viewers. But this doesn't necessarily mean that seeing the movie creates suspicion; it could be instead that suspicious people have been drawn to the film.

ABCNEWS.com : Poll: Lingering Suspicion Over JFK Assassination

 

[7forever]

I am most definitely not changing the subject. This is a subject I have been trying to get you to answer for quite a while now. All you have said is "he's not in the way". We can see quite clearly that he is over against his wife and therefore could not have had a bullet fired between them. This makes all the claims about guns, reflections and fake hands irrelevant if the shot couldn't be made.

You most definitely are changing the subject. The issue is Greer's guilt based on tons of evidence that was left ignored for 4.5 decades. We can see quite clearly that Greer passes the gun in Zapruder and his real left arm crosses in both other films. That proves he was the shooter and you as a denialist cannot deal with those facts so you change the subject to non-issues.

yeah it was funny watching him change the subject everytime he knew he was losing the debate.:lol thats what piad trolls do just like their handlers pay them.

I stand by Gary Mack being the only real paid disinfo agent. The others are independent contractors.

 

[Liability]

The limo driver, Greer, was simultaneously on the Grassy knoll.

Yes.

That MUST be it.

 

[Obamerican]

as usual.he gets his ass handed to him on a platter from you.

They just go in circles, always ignoring facts. That's been happening for 47 years, only now has the real truth emerged.

thats why at this point,I think its time to move on and ignore these trolls.they resort to lies,ignore facts,ignore witness testimonys,dont address points you bring up,and evade it by changeing the subject.they ignored and did not address at LEAST 3 of my points when I challenged them to,they just ran off with their tail between their legs like the chickenshit cowards they are.
might as well wait to some NEW paid troll comes on.these dumbfucks are a joke, pathetic and a waste of time.Like you said,you just go around in cirlces with them and thats because their handlers pay them to try and derail this thread.

Here is an example of just how ******* stupid you really are? Are you listening, shit for brains?

THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT SPEND MONEY TO DERAIL THREADS POSTED BY STUPID ***** LIKE YOU AND 7FORESKIN!!!

Jesus ******* Christ you are one stupid ************.