The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[7forever]

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It makes me sick to my stomach watching you pat yourself on your own back.

You haven't followed up on anything. You made a decision to deny the reality that Greer shot Kennedy. The driver did shoot him. Well... let me qualify that with what I can deduce through what I'm able to see from your silly posts. Greer did fire the final shot. He turned the first time to see where jfk was and the second time to shoot him.

From what you can tell, the "driver shot him" is a truth which you will never challenge but simply claim it's not true without addressing the evidence that proves it beyond any doubt.

 

[7forever]

Greer's left arm crossing in the Nix film and the fake reflection in Zapruder are in perfect sync with the headshot.

FRAMES 312-313

 

[Rationalist1016]

Greer's left arm crossing in the Nix film and the fake reflection in Zapruder are in perfect sync with the headshot.

FRAMES 312-313

#1 - Can you stop screwing up the "quotes" when you reply? Somehow you are managing to get all the quotes mixed up.

#2 - Are you going to address my question about Greer's hand?

#3 - In the clip of the Nix film that you show, the movement of Greer's left arm that you claim shows he is firing over his right shoulder: Other than this being an extreme blow up of an already low quality film, it shows Greer's left arm/hand dropping BEFORE the shot strikes Kennedy. So, your own "evidence" proves you wrong.

#4 - The drawing that you post, looking down on the limo, showing the seating arrangement and the straight line from Greer to Kennedy is flawed..........it shows a gap between Connolly and his wife that you claim Greer fired through. Just one look at the Z film will show that Connolly is right up against his wife at that time and in the way of any shot.

 

[7forever]

7forever, unless you can show me a gun, my explanation makes just as much sense as yours!

However, if you want a proper rebuttal to your argument, this isn't mine, but it will do:

Your explanation makes zero sense and is patently ridiculous.

You almost completely ignored the evidence presented and then you say how do I know it's a gun if there's white and grey over it? I know it's a gun because all the evidence points to Greer shooting jfk and being able to easily prove Zfilm alteration. If you would actually stop denying reality you would accept that I proved Greer's guilt beyond all doubt. See, for you to pose a challenge you must raise some doubt which you have not nor will you ever. You have doubt on my conclusion, and thus you have not provided any plausible, alternate explanations. Simply provide an explanation for why Greer is passing anything and why you think Groden and Marrs lied about this for decades? They lied because it's half the proof that Greer was the assassin. The other half's in the Nix and Muchmore films which have been exposed.

I can identify the gun because I can see the covered gun he's passing. So, you cannot prove there is NOT a gun or why he's passing anything?

Secondly, and yet again most importantly, the fact that Greer had a gun is not part of the official story, therefore more proof of cover-up. I have not assumed anything but have proven the reflection on Roy's head fake on its own and showed the reason for its addition to Z by showing his left arm cross in Nix and Muchmore. I have provided overwhelming evidence of film alteration and tons of corroborative work. Your silly challenge is that you can't see the gun because something is placed over it...that would be laughed at by juries, judges and any open minded person who has no stake in denying this obvious truth.

The gun was covered and bleached out. I have a bleached object that was covered during alteration. I have three films that are legible which prove Greer's movements were responsible for the headshot and his angle to Kennedy lines up perfectly with the right rear exit.

The gun was covered and bleached out. So again, I have a gun and you have posed no challenge for why an object was covered before and after the shot with three fake reflections that perfectly mirror a cartoon gun, hand and arm at the moment of the headshot. You have no evidence or challenge of anything because you have no interest in this case besides disagreeing with an obvious truth. The past is gone in the jfk case. The present and future is the obvious fact that Greer shot Kennedy.

Lastly, the demand of impossible proof is requiring to show the uncovered gun which I cannot because it was covered during the alteration with white and grey, but its ignored and covered up existence is all the proof any prosecutor would need.

 

[Rationalist1016]

7forever, was that last post in response to me?
Because you didn't address anything that I stated.
You went off about the gun being covered up.............I didn't say anything about the gun.
Could you please address what I actually said.

 

[7forever]

7forever, was that last post in response to me?
Because you didn't address anything that I stated.
You went off about the gun being covered up.............I didn't say anything about the gun.
Could you please address what I actually said.

I've answered it over and over without you acknowledging that fact. All you can do is go in circles because apparently it makes you feel good. You prove the hand is real. There's your mission because you would be required to do just that in a debate or a mock trial. Greer's hands were off the wheel 4 seconds before the shot and his left hand did not return to the wheel. No person in this world could ever prove that it did.

 

[7forever]

Greer's left arm crossing in the Nix film and the fake reflection in Zapruder are in perfect sync with the headshot.

FRAMES 312-313

##3 - In the clip of the Nix film that you show, the movement of Greer's left arm that you claim shows he is firing over his right shoulder: Other than this being an extreme blow up of an already low quality film, it shows Greer's left arm/hand dropping BEFORE the shot strikes Kennedy. So, your own "evidence" proves you wrong.

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No it doesn't. His left arm drops immediately after he fires and does not come down all the way until he's sure he shot jfk. It makes no difference because his arm movements in nix and muchmore contradict Zapruder in the most important way.

 

[Warrior102]

7forever - suck it asshole.

 

[7forever]

People don't really want to contact you 7forever not because they don't have the evidence, or that they'll think you'll prove them wrong, its because.....well sorry to say it but your kinda weird, you see things that nobody else does, you get angry and insult people, just because they don't see what you see, and you seem the sort of person that people would regret being in contact with, like I say don't mean anything by it just saying how I see it...

Everybody sees Greer shoot jfk, including you. You won't debate this because you would have to put your voice to blatant and visual lies. The only weird people are the ones who deny reailty on message boards and then take the coward's way out by not debating their defenseless positions.

 

[7forever]

7forever - suck it asshole.

**** off, you worthless ****.

 

[Rationalist1016]

In a court of law I would have to prove the left hand we see in the film (not holding a gun) is real!?............Because you claim it is fake?
The assumption and logic would say it is real. The onus is on YOU to prove it otherwise.
His hand being on or off the steering wheel doesn't prove anything...............what are you talking about?

Plus you DID NOT address the issue of Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

 

[7forever]

In a court of law I would have to prove the left hand we see in the film (not holding a gun) is real!?............Because you claim it is fake?
The assumption and logic would say it is real. .

Of course you would have to prove it could be real because his hands were off the wheel and no video footage shows his left hand returing to the wheel. The nix and muchmore prove that it didn't. I didn't claim it was fake, I proved it was fake. Logic and the films prove it is and always was a red herring because the other two films show his left arm/hand going over his shoulder with the headshot.

 

[Rationalist1016]

Please reference the thread where you PROVED it was fake.

Also, you still didn't address Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.
How long are you going to dodge this one?

 

[7forever]

Please reference the thread where you PROVED it was fake.

Also, you still didn't address Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.
How long are you going to dodge this one?

Show video footage of Greer's left hand returning to the wheel.

 

[Rationalist1016]

Please reference the thread where you PROVED it was fake.

Also, you still didn't address Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.
How long are you going to dodge this one?

Show video footage of Greer's left hand returning to the wheel.

Well, the Z film shows it pretty clearly, that after the fatal shot, he grabs the wheel and hits the gas.
Although, I'm not sure I am following your logic on how that applies to his hand being fake.

Can you now address Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting?

 

[7forever]

Please reference the thread where you PROVED it was fake.

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Show video footage of Greer's left hand returning to the wheel.

Well, the Z film shows it pretty clearly, that after the fatal shot, he grabs the wheel and hits the gas.
Although, I'm not sure I am following your logic on how that applies to his hand being fake.

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You are dodging and bascially ready to throw in the towel and it's not that big a deal to me. Why people deny this on forums is beyond me. Watch Greer's left arm/elbow extending downward in Muchmore after the shot and compare that to the fake hand by the door in Zapruder. Both other films provide proof of the fake hand in Z.

 

[Rationalist1016]

Show video footage of Greer's left hand returning to the wheel.

Well, the Z film shows it pretty clearly, that after the fatal shot, he grabs the wheel and hits the gas.
Although, I'm not sure I am following your logic on how that applies to his hand being fake.

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You are dodging and bascially ready to throw in the towel and it's not that big a deal to me. Why people deny this on forums is beyond me. Watch Greer's arm/elbow extending downward in Muchmore after the shot and compare that to the fake hand by the door in Zapruder. Both other films provide proof of the fake hand in Z.

People deny it because we can all see (in the clips that you post) that Greer doesn't do any of the things you claim. He does look over his shoulder, that is the only part of your claim that is true.

You still haven't addressed Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

And you still haven't pointed out any researcher or "all the corroborative evidence" that agrees with you.

 

[7forever]

Well, the Z film shows it pretty clearly, that after the fatal shot, he grabs the wheel and hits the gas.
Although, I'm not sure I am following your logic on how that applies to his hand being fake.

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You are dodging and bascially ready to throw in the towel and it's not that big a deal to me. Why people deny this on forums is beyond me. Watch Greer's arm/elbow extending downward in Muchmore after the shot and compare that to the fake hand by the door in Zapruder. Both other films provide proof of the fake hand in Z.

People deny it because we can all see (in the clips that you post) that Greer doesn't do any of the things you claim. He does look over his shoulder, that is the only part of your claim that is true.

You still haven't addressed Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

And you still haven't pointed out any researcher or "all the corroborative evidence" that agrees with you.

People deny it because they don't want it to be true but it is. Greer does all of the things in the three films that prove he was the fatal shooter. He does look over his shoulder twice and the second time shoots jfk in the right forehead.

 

[7forever]

Well, the Z film shows it pretty clearly, that after the fatal shot, he grabs the wheel and hits the gas.
Although, I'm not sure I am following your logic on how that applies to his hand being fake.

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People deny it because we can all see (in the clips that you post) that Greer doesn't do any of the things you claim. He does look over his shoulder, that is the only part of your claim that is true.

You still haven't addressed Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

And you still haven't pointed out any researcher or "all the corroborative evidence" that agrees with you.

How can the fake hand be real when his real hand's going over his shoulder in two other films?

 

[Rationalist1016]

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People deny it because we can all see (in the clips that you post) that Greer doesn't do any of the things you claim. He does look over his shoulder, that is the only part of your claim that is true.

You still haven't addressed Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

And you still haven't pointed out any researcher or "all the corroborative evidence" that agrees with you.

How can the fake hand be real when his real hand's going over his shoulder in two other films?

LOL!! You can't see his hand in any other film!! You can see his hand in the Z film, but of course "IT'S FAKE".....lol. The other two films, you can barely make out the head turn. They show nothing of his hand.

You still haven't addressed Connolly being in the way of Greer shooting.

And you still haven't pointed out any researcher or "all the corroborative evidence" that agrees with you.