The Iran War, Trump's Idea or Netanyahu's?

[Billiejeens]

Lol. Did you know your nation of Israel has killed far more innocent civilians than Hamas?

I’m guessing not. Am I right?

Hamas is responsible for them.all.
100% of the deaths belong to Hamas.

 

[struth]

Lol. Did you know your nation of Israel has killed far more innocent civilians than Hamas?

I’m guessing not. Am I right?

Cause you are wrong

 

[gipper]

Cause you are wrong

Really?

Do you know Israel has killed far more Palestinians mostly women and children, than Hamas did?

Now please don’t lie for once.

 

[struth]

Really?

Do you know Israel has killed far more Palestinians mostly women and children, than Hamas did?

Now please don’t lie for once.

Well, I guess you might have a point, Israel has been around for 1000s of years, Hamas much more recent, but boy they are giving the 1000s ofd years a run for it's money.

The cruel thing about Hamas is they use 1000 year old tactics today, such as using babies as human shields, and brutally oppressing the Palistinian people

 

[gipper]

Well, I guess you might have a point, Israel has been around for 1000s of years, Hamas much more recent, but boy they are giving the 1000s ofd years a run for it's money.

The cruel thing about Hamas is they use 1000 year old tactics today, such as using babies as human shields, and brutally oppressing the Palistinian people

Dumb Zionist. Just in the past couple years, your beloved Israel has murdered far more Palestinians than Hamas has ever killed Israelis.

Why do Zionists always lie?

 

[struth]

Dumb Zionist. Just in the past couple years, your beloved Israel has murdered far more Palestinians than Hamas has ever killed Israelis.

Why do Zionists always lie?

Nope, Hamas has killed WAY more over the past couple years.

 

[gipper]

Nope, Hamas has killed WAY more over the past couple years.

LMFAO.

Is that what Fox is telling you?

I really didn’t think you were this dumb.

You’re idiot just like Trump.

 

[struth]

LMFAO.

Is that what Fox is telling you?

I really didn’t think you were this dumb.

You’re idiot just like Trump.

Fox? What are you talking about?

Anyone with a lick of sense, of watching Hamas, since it was created by Iran, in 1987 (before Fox News existed) knows this.

 

[toobfreak]

Who decided to go to war with Iran?
Is Trump controlling Israel or is Israel controlling Trump?

Really, neither of the above in your polling.

• Trump was already cautious of Iran and very concerned.
• Netanyahu came to him with intel of things Iran was doing which greatly increased the urgency while offering Trump massive support for whatever actions Trump took.
• Trump went to Hegseth and discussed it with the military.
• Trump made the decision to go in cold just with Israel, so they could take out the leaders by surprise.

As to the rest, the decision to hold and wait, that is anyone's guess, but I'm pretty sure it is not for lack of missiles, rockets and bombs, or lack of military gear, personnel or funding (remember, when Trump took office, beaucoup numbers of people all lined up to sign for military service!), probably more than anything, like every other war since WWII, probably a lot of other countries stepped in and pressured Trump to pause and try to negotiate a "humanitarian resolution" as just another police action rather than the true bloodbath that war really is.

 

[gipper]

Fox? What are you talking about?

Anyone with a lick of sense, of watching Hamas, since it was created by Iran, in 1987 (before Fox News existed) knows this.

Oh for F**ks sake you’re an idiot.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Oh for F**ks sake you’re an idiot.

Israel did not directly create Hamas, but the Israeli government inadvertently fostered its rise during the late 1970s and 1980s by adopting a "divide-and-rule" strategy. Seeking to counter the secular, left-wing Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Israel tolerated and provided initial support to the Islamist predecessors of Hamas.

Wikipedia
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Origins and Early Israeli Stance
Charitable Roots: Hamas emerged from the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 1970s and early 1980s, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the Brotherhood's leader in Gaza, established a network of charities, clinics, and the Islamic University of Gaza.
Countering the PLO: At the time, Israel's main adversary was Yasser Arafat's secular PLO, which carried out armed attacks and sought Palestinian statehood. The Israeli military government in Gaza initially viewed Yassin's religious network as a non-violent, beneficial counterweight that would divide and weaken the secular nationalist movement.
Official Recognition: Israeli authorities officially recognized Yassin's organization, Mujama al-Islamiya, as a charity and allowed it to operate and expand while aggressively cracking down on PLO affiliates.

YouTube
·The Intercept
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The Shift and the Founding of Hamas
Formation: In 1987, at the outbreak of the First Intifada (a Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation), Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood officially formed Hamas as an armed militant group.
Blowback: Once Hamas was officially established and began carrying out attacks against Israelis, Israel recognized the group as a major threat. Former Israeli officials have frequently described their initial tolerance of the group as a fatal strategic error or as playing with fire.

 

[struth]

Oh for F**ks sake you’re an idiot.

And you support terrorist they kill babies

All because you hate Jews

It’s beyond barbarism

 

[TheGreatSatan]

And you support terrorist they kill babies

All because you hate Jews

It’s beyond barbarism

Israel did not directly create Hamas, but the Israeli government inadvertently fostered its rise during the late 1970s and 1980s by adopting a "divide-and-rule" strategy. Seeking to counter the secular, left-wing Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Israel tolerated and provided initial support to the Islamist predecessors of Hamas.

Wikipedia
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Origins and Early Israeli Stance
Charitable Roots: Hamas emerged from the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 1970s and early 1980s, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the Brotherhood's leader in Gaza, established a network of charities, clinics, and the Islamic University of Gaza.
Countering the PLO: At the time, Israel's main adversary was Yasser Arafat's secular PLO, which carried out armed attacks and sought Palestinian statehood. The Israeli military government in Gaza initially viewed Yassin's religious network as a non-violent, beneficial counterweight that would divide and weaken the secular nationalist movement.
Official Recognition: Israeli authorities officially recognized Yassin's organization, Mujama al-Islamiya, as a charity and allowed it to operate and expand while aggressively cracking down on PLO affiliates.

YouTube
·The Intercept
+5
The Shift and the Founding of Hamas
Formation: In 1987, at the outbreak of the First Intifada (a Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation), Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood officially formed Hamas as an armed militant group.
Blowback: Once Hamas was officially established and began carrying out attacks against Israelis, Israel recognized the group as a major threat. Former Israeli officials have frequently described their initial tolerance of the group as a fatal strategic error or as playing with fire.

Guess the Jews hate babies to

 

[struth]

Israel did not directly create Hamas, but the Israeli government inadvertently fostered its rise during the late 1970s and 1980s by adopting a "divide-and-rule" strategy. Seeking to counter the secular, left-wing Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Israel tolerated and provided initial support to the Islamist predecessors of Hamas.

Wikipedia
+3
Origins and Early Israeli Stance
Charitable Roots: Hamas emerged from the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 1970s and early 1980s, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the Brotherhood's leader in Gaza, established a network of charities, clinics, and the Islamic University of Gaza.
Countering the PLO: At the time, Israel's main adversary was Yasser Arafat's secular PLO, which carried out armed attacks and sought Palestinian statehood. The Israeli military government in Gaza initially viewed Yassin's religious network as a non-violent, beneficial counterweight that would divide and weaken the secular nationalist movement.
Official Recognition: Israeli authorities officially recognized Yassin's organization, Mujama al-Islamiya, as a charity and allowed it to operate and expand while aggressively cracking down on PLO affiliates.

YouTube
·The Intercept
+5
The Shift and the Founding of Hamas
Formation: In 1987, at the outbreak of the First Intifada (a Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation), Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood officially formed Hamas as an armed militant group.
Blowback: Once Hamas was officially established and began carrying out attacks against Israelis, Israel recognized the group as a major threat. Former Israeli officials have frequently described their initial tolerance of the group as a fatal strategic error or as playing with fire.

Guess the Jews hate babies to

Correct Israel didn’t create Hamas

At one point they viewed them as the lesser evil than the PLO.

Xiden and the dems however continued to fund Hamas even after they were designated a global terrorist organization, with billions… How Hamas Benefits From American Taxpayers

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Correct Israel didn’t create Hamas

At one point they viewed them as the lesser evil than the PLO.

Xiden and the dems however continued to fund Hamas even after they were designated a global terrorist organization, with billions… How Hamas Benefits From American Taxpayers

Israel runs hamas. If they didn't they wouldn't let Democrats who they control fund them.

 

[struth]

Israel runs hamas. If they didn't they wouldn't let Democrats who they control fund them.

No actually they havd no control over Hamas

Hamas is funded and supported by Iran and the Dem party

There was a time on the 90s, Israel supported Hamas over the PLO…but they certainly didn’t control it, they went crazy

Iran has been the leading state sponsor of Hamas for decades The Hamas-Iran Relationship

Israel in fact kills Hamas leadership https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...d-odeh-defiant-funeral-held-in-gaza-city/amp/

 

[TheGreatSatan]

No actually they havd no control over Hamas

Hamas is funded and supported by Iran and the Dem party

There was a time on the 90s, Israel supported Hamas over the PLO…but they certainly didn’t control it, they went crazy

Iran has been the leading state sponsor of Hamas for decades The Hamas-Iran Relationship

Israel in fact kills Hamas leadership https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...d-odeh-defiant-funeral-held-in-gaza-city/amp/

Israel needs Hamas to destabilize the ME and justify their greater israel campaign.

 

[struth]

Israel needs Hamas to destabilize the ME and justify their greater israel campaign.

Hahaha you wing nuts have some wild conspiracies to justify your bigotry towards Jews

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Hahaha you wing nuts have some wild conspiracies to justify your bigotry towards Jews

Not approving of Israel doesn't mean you hate jews. That's retarded.

Do the jews in Israel protesting the war and Israel actions hate jews to?

 

[struth]

Not approving of Israel doesn't mean you hate jews. That's retarded.

Do the jews in Israel protesting the war and Israel actions hate jews to?

No but supporting Hamas and the Iranian regime means you do, along with wild conspiracies to justify it, conspiracies pushed by hate groups

You aren’t protesting a war, you are spreading hate group conspiracy

The vast majority of Jews support the war, heck even Arab Israelis support it

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-confirms-death-of-military-chief-mohammed-odeh-defiant-funeral-held-in-gaza-city/amp/