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I don't. It's because they know it will make them charge their customers MORE. When you start charging more, people who can't afford it will drop off. Then, when push comes to shove, the only customers they'll have will be those who make 6 figure paychecks. They will lose tens of thousands of customers. Say, do you really care about helping the poor? Or do you do everything in your power to make them poorer?

Okay, I usually don't try to engage you on your rantings because you are nuts...

But.

The Cable companies already know their industry is dying. They know they are probably about 10 years from being obsolete in the technology.

They can't afford to only market to people making six figure incomes.
 
Look at who is objecting to this - the providers. The ones you buy your internet from.

Yeah, and? I guess people like you are gluttons for punishment.

Do you really think they object to net neutrality because they think it will prevent them from charging you LESS?

I don't. It's because they know it will make them charge their customers MORE. When you start charging more, people who can't afford it will drop off. Then, when push comes to shove, the only customers they'll have will be those who make 6 figure paychecks. They will lose tens of thousands of customers. Say, do you really care about helping the poor? Or do you do everything in your power to make them poorer?

You're doing a terrible job of pretending you understand any of this.
 
Porn is utilizing the capacity to the full.

In all seriousness, it would be fascinating to know what percentage of data usage porn eats up on a daily basis.
Just wonder how many terabytes per day goes across routers/root servers that is porn.
35 % of all downloads are porn. Given that a porn is larger than the average file and that streaming (tube pages) isn´t exactly downloading, porn makes up far more than 50 % of the overall internet traffic.
 
Look at who is objecting to this - the providers. The ones you buy your internet from.

Yeah, and? I guess people like you are gluttons for punishment.

Do you really think they object to net neutrality because they think it will prevent them from charging you LESS?

I don't. It's because they know it will make them charge their customers MORE. When you start charging more, people who can't afford it will drop off. Then, when push comes to shove, the only customers they'll have will be those who make 6 figure paychecks. They will lose tens of thousands of customers. Say, do you really care about helping the poor? Or do you do everything in your power to make them poorer?


That was dumb on at least three different levels. Keep up the good work.
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Just be prepared for a lot of "I told you so's." The price of your internet service is about to get a lot higher. Your "free and open internet" is going to cost you dearly. I sincerely hope the advocates of Net Neutrality reap what they sow.

As of Friday, June 12, the Internet is legally an open, unbiased network in the United States. Well, to be fair, it has been pretty open and unbiased, but now the net neutrality ruling is coming into effect.

Net neutrality rules were published by the Federal Communications Commission April 13, and the two-month waiting period for them to become effective ends today. The ruling is being appealed by Internet Service Providers (ISPs) like AT&T and Verizon, which will likely take months if not years if it has to go to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, ISPs asked the courts to halt parts of the ruling until there is a verdict on the appeal (in legal terms, this halt request is called a stay request), but that request was denied today. So net neutrality now becomes enforceable by the FCC. Will consumers benefit?

I have read the 400-page document of the ruling and talked to expert lawyers, industry executives and academics, trying to piece the puzzle together to answer this question. So this is the first of several articles on this topic. I wish the answer was straightforward, but as in most major rulings, the answer is mixed. Consumers will benefit in some ways, but they will lose in other ways. Here’s how.

The ruling provides rules of engagement for ISPs (defined in the ruling as Broadband Internet Access Services or BIAS) who deliver Internet content via a mobile, satellite, or fixed cable connection. One of the main issues at hand is that many of these providers have a monopoly of the last mile of cable to your home. The spirit of the ruling is to make sure that these providers give fair access and delivery of Internet content, so that the Internet remains an open access network.

The ruling has two core components. The first major ruling is that ISPs now fall under the category of telecommunications services (as opposed to information services), so they are bound by the regulations of Title II of the Telecommunications Act of 1934, which provides the FCC the authority to regulate them as a public utility. This is a major development with substantial implications on the future of the industry. It is at the core of the appeal by the ISPs, so let’s leave it for a future post and focus on what is not being disputed by the ISPs.

The second major part of the ruling is the development of so-called bright-line rules, which directly affect a consumer’s ability to access content over the Internet. Although they now go into effect and the denial of the stay request today increases the chance of these rules ultimately passing, it is awkward that they could still get lost in the appeals process. According to J.G. Harrington, attorney at Cooley LLP, “it is uncertain whether the rules that were not in the stay request will eventually survive all the legal challenges. But the fact that the stay request was denied increases the odds that these bright-line rules will survive the appeal process.”

Net Neutrality Goes Into Effect What Consumers Should Expect
What a loss to humanity. Billions unable to pass bullshit to one another.
 
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Just be prepared for a lot of "I told you so's." The price of your internet service is about to get a lot higher. Your "free and open internet" is going to cost you dearly. I sincerely hope the advocates of Net Neutrality reap what they sow.

As of Friday, June 12, the Internet is legally an open, unbiased network in the United States. Well, to be fair, it has been pretty open and unbiased, but now the net neutrality ruling is coming into effect.

Net neutrality rules were published by the Federal Communications Commission April 13, and the two-month waiting period for them to become effective ends today. The ruling is being appealed by Internet Service Providers (ISPs) like AT&T and Verizon, which will likely take months if not years if it has to go to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, ISPs asked the courts to halt parts of the ruling until there is a verdict on the appeal (in legal terms, this halt request is called a stay request), but that request was denied today. So net neutrality now becomes enforceable by the FCC. Will consumers benefit?

I have read the 400-page document of the ruling and talked to expert lawyers, industry executives and academics, trying to piece the puzzle together to answer this question. So this is the first of several articles on this topic. I wish the answer was straightforward, but as in most major rulings, the answer is mixed. Consumers will benefit in some ways, but they will lose in other ways. Here’s how.

The ruling provides rules of engagement for ISPs (defined in the ruling as Broadband Internet Access Services or BIAS) who deliver Internet content via a mobile, satellite, or fixed cable connection. One of the main issues at hand is that many of these providers have a monopoly of the last mile of cable to your home. The spirit of the ruling is to make sure that these providers give fair access and delivery of Internet content, so that the Internet remains an open access network.

The ruling has two core components. The first major ruling is that ISPs now fall under the category of telecommunications services (as opposed to information services), so they are bound by the regulations of Title II of the Telecommunications Act of 1934, which provides the FCC the authority to regulate them as a public utility. This is a major development with substantial implications on the future of the industry. It is at the core of the appeal by the ISPs, so let’s leave it for a future post and focus on what is not being disputed by the ISPs.

The second major part of the ruling is the development of so-called bright-line rules, which directly affect a consumer’s ability to access content over the Internet. Although they now go into effect and the denial of the stay request today increases the chance of these rules ultimately passing, it is awkward that they could still get lost in the appeals process. According to J.G. Harrington, attorney at Cooley LLP, “it is uncertain whether the rules that were not in the stay request will eventually survive all the legal challenges. But the fact that the stay request was denied increases the odds that these bright-line rules will survive the appeal process.”

Net Neutrality Goes Into Effect What Consumers Should Expect
What a loss to humanity. Billions unable to pass bullshit to one another.

Think of it this way, Hillary will think twice before sending any more emails.
 
I don't know much about this; but on the face of it, it seems like it's going to make things more fair for consumers. Anything that the net giants oppose must be a good thing.
 
I don't know much about this; but on the face of it, it seems like it's going to make things more fair for consumers. Anything that the net giants oppose must be a good thing.
It's the usual nonsense from the right: conservatives adhering blindly to their errant, failed economic dogma, and seeking to propagate their ridiculous lies.
 
Net neutrality will do to internet access prices what ObamaCare did for health care affordability.
 
The fallacy of the OP is that it ignores the basic premise behind the Internet and the technology that drives it.

And that is hardly surprising since the majority of internet users have no clue what does drive it. They simply log on and everything just magically appears in their browser from places they probably don't even know exist is real life across connections that they wouldn't recognize if they tripped over them.

But enough about the OP! :D

Let's get back to the fallacy of the article. The writer doesn't comprehend that when the Internet first started and you wanted to access it you had to dial in with your modem that was tethering your desktop PC to the phone. Remember what fun it was listening to the ACK/NAK tune as the modem tried to make the connection over your landline?

That protocol was so slow you could actually detect what was happening if you knew what was happening behind the scenes. Nowadays you can just click on a browser app on your cell phone and the internet is at your fingertips no matter where you are.

So what happened in the interim? Innovation, of course. And what makes the writer of the OP article believe that innovation is going to disappear if the internet becomes congested?

Most probably ignorance on his part and gullibility on the part of his audience.

Problems are there to be solved and the internet solved a problem no one even knew they had. But let's be real about this. Today there are users of the internet who you would have to surgically remove their connections because they have become so addicted.

They will be the people who will pay for these innovations because to them they are worth having.

In summation the chicken little OP is much ado about naught.

The world and the internet will continue on as before while the lawyers make money.
 
The cost for my internet has gone up every year regardless, so costs going up because the gov put their fingers in the pie is a whatever.

I do like the blue line rules though, I don't want to wade through a bunch of stupid "is this covered" questions with my ISP provider, and everyone in my house. (To cut to the chase; I really don't want to ask our tenant if he's streaming porn...) I just want my service, and I want it to go top speed for /everything/ I, or anyone else here does.
 

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