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The Insignificance of Reality in the Politics of the Left

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Liberalism: where denial and delusion are inserted between fact and conclusion.

Liberalism requires a willingness to accept, and support, lies.





1.To be brutally frank, I am a hoarder of facts. Of information, knowledge, of trivia of all kinds. And then, I become promiscuous in the management of same, combining, joining putting parts together as one would a puzzle, resulting in all sorts of combinations and permutations simply for the enjoyment of finding parts that hadn’t been put together, but suddenly lead to conclusions.

I bet I am not the only one who thinks this way. And, I bet it is far, far more common in conservatives, individualists, than in Liberals, collectivists.
In fact, it is the reason conservatives eat Liberal’s lunch in debates.



2. But even so, it does not lead to the sort of re-education of Leftists that one would wish.

“Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.” How facts backfire



3. It is the study of history, both modern and ancient, that provides facts. But as above, even when the facts, the basis of reality, are available, and ready to serve as public policy….they don’t.

“Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure”
Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure - CD Media

Socialist entities such as Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia both promised the birth of ‘the new man,’ a socialist sapiens, if we were to destroy capitalism, and replace worship of God with worship of state, government, the collective representation of man. “Today both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are synonymous with tyranny and failure. Both nations murdered millions. Both nations no longer exist.”

Yet millions of Americans vote for the latest representation of those two mistakes: Democrat policies mirror the two that sprang from Karl Marx’s fevered mind.




4. In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:
“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.
Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.”
GORBACHEV, YELTSIN SAY COMMUNISM FAILED USSR

Did you hear that, Democrats?



Cue the chorus: “It can’t happen here!”

See what I mean?
 
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In the computer age, facts can be manufactured. As people come to see this day after day, they become immune to claims of "fact-hood," believing instead that it is just some partisan's "version" of the facts that is being presented.

Take "Global Warming"/"Climate Change." Both sides have mountains of facts to support their positions on the issues, and often those facts can be extracted from publications of the other side.


Quote:
Here are three more that might surprise you, drawn directly from recent published research or the latest assessments of climate science published by the U.S. government and the U.N.:
  • Humans have had no detectable impact on hurricanes over the past century.
  • Greenland’s ice sheet isn’t shrinking any more rapidly today than it was 80 years ago.
  • The net economic impact of human-induced climate change will be minimal through at least the end of this century.
And yet, every day brings headlines of catastrophic projections from our own government sources - said to have been suppressed during the 45 Administration.

This is why "facts" don't change people's minds. Along with the fact that most people are too stupid to assess the difference between actual data and something they observed in their uncle's dog ten years ago ("anecdotal evidence").
 

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Liberalism: where denial and delusion are inserted between fact and conclusion.

Liberalism requires a willingness to accept, and support, lies.





1.To be brutally frank, I am a hoarder of facts. Of information, knowledge, of trivia of all kinds. And then, I become promiscuous in the management of same, combining, joining putting parts together as one would a puzzle, resulting in all sorts of combinations and permutations simply for the enjoyment of finding parts that hadn’t been put together, but suddenly lead to conclusions.

I bet I am not the only one who thinks this way. And, I bet it is far, far more common in conservatives, individualists, than in Liberals, collectivists.
In fact, it is the reason conservatives eat Liberal’s lunch in debates.



2. But even so, it does not lead to the sort of re-education of Leftists that one would wish.

“Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.” How facts backfire



3. It is the study of history, both modern and ancient, that provides facts. But as above, even when the facts, the basis of reality, are available, and ready to serve as public policy….they don’t.

“Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure”
Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure - CD Media

Socialist entities such as Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia both promised the birth of ‘the new man,’ a socialist sapiens, if we were to destroy capitalism, and replace worship of God with worship of state, government, the collective representation of man. “Today both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are synonymous with tyranny and failure. Both nations murdered millions. Both nations no longer exist.”

Yet millions of Americans vote for the latest representation of those two mistakes: Democrat policies mirror the two that sprang from Karl Marx’s fevered mind.




4. In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:
“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.
Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.”
GORBACHEV, YELTSIN SAY COMMUNISM FAILED USSR

Did you hear that, Democrats?



Cue the chorus: “It can’t happen here!”

See what I mean?

Speaking to the first section, "corrected" news stories fail to convince people because we don't trust our media. We don't trust our media because they are pathological liars with virtually no connection to fact. A "corrected" news story simply means the Reich wants to change the narrative. Since the media doesn't deal in fact, we can't conclude that "Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation." only that what the media present are not "facts," but rather propaganda.

Anyone believing a single word from CNN is a fool. Facts have the power to change reasonable minds, the issue is that our propaganda corps don't deal in facts.
 

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Liberalism: where denial and delusion are inserted between fact and conclusion.

Liberalism requires a willingness to accept, and support, lies.





1.To be brutally frank, I am a hoarder of facts. Of information, knowledge, of trivia of all kinds. And then, I become promiscuous in the management of same, combining, joining putting parts together as one would a puzzle, resulting in all sorts of combinations and permutations simply for the enjoyment of finding parts that hadn’t been put together, but suddenly lead to conclusions.

I bet I am not the only one who thinks this way. And, I bet it is far, far more common in conservatives, individualists, than in Liberals, collectivists.
In fact, it is the reason conservatives eat Liberal’s lunch in debates.



2. But even so, it does not lead to the sort of re-education of Leftists that one would wish.

“Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.” How facts backfire



3. It is the study of history, both modern and ancient, that provides facts. But as above, even when the facts, the basis of reality, are available, and ready to serve as public policy….they don’t.

“Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure”
Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure - CD Media

Socialist entities such as Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia both promised the birth of ‘the new man,’ a socialist sapiens, if we were to destroy capitalism, and replace worship of God with worship of state, government, the collective representation of man. “Today both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are synonymous with tyranny and failure. Both nations murdered millions. Both nations no longer exist.”

Yet millions of Americans vote for the latest representation of those two mistakes: Democrat policies mirror the two that sprang from Karl Marx’s fevered mind.




4. In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:
“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.
Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.”
GORBACHEV, YELTSIN SAY COMMUNISM FAILED USSR

Did you hear that, Democrats?



Cue the chorus: “It can’t happen here!”

See what I mean?

Speaking to the first section, "corrected" news stories fail to convince people because we don't trust our media. We don't trust our media because they are pathological liars with virtually no connection to fact. A "corrected" news story simply means the Reich wants to change the narrative. Since the media doesn't deal in fact, we can't conclude that "Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation." only that what the media present are not "facts," but rather propaganda.

Anyone believing a single word from CNN is a fool. Facts have the power to change reasonable minds, the issue is that our propaganda corps don't deal in facts.
CNN, FOX, Newsmax, OAN yeah they all suck at being trustworthy.
 

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Liberalism: where denial and delusion are inserted between fact and conclusion.

Liberalism requires a willingness to accept, and support, lies.





1.To be brutally frank, I am a hoarder of facts. Of information, knowledge, of trivia of all kinds. And then, I become promiscuous in the management of same, combining, joining putting parts together as one would a puzzle, resulting in all sorts of combinations and permutations simply for the enjoyment of finding parts that hadn’t been put together, but suddenly lead to conclusions.

I bet I am not the only one who thinks this way. And, I bet it is far, far more common in conservatives, individualists, than in Liberals, collectivists.
In fact, it is the reason conservatives eat Liberal’s lunch in debates.



2. But even so, it does not lead to the sort of re-education of Leftists that one would wish.

“Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.” How facts backfire



3. It is the study of history, both modern and ancient, that provides facts. But as above, even when the facts, the basis of reality, are available, and ready to serve as public policy….they don’t.

“Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure”
Denying Reality Leads To Tyranny And Societal Failure - CD Media

Socialist entities such as Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia both promised the birth of ‘the new man,’ a socialist sapiens, if we were to destroy capitalism, and replace worship of God with worship of state, government, the collective representation of man. “Today both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are synonymous with tyranny and failure. Both nations murdered millions. Both nations no longer exist.”

Yet millions of Americans vote for the latest representation of those two mistakes: Democrat policies mirror the two that sprang from Karl Marx’s fevered mind.




4. In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:
“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.
Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.”
GORBACHEV, YELTSIN SAY COMMUNISM FAILED USSR

Did you hear that, Democrats?



Cue the chorus: “It can’t happen here!”

See what I mean?
Right wingers believe right wing fantasy more than reality and prove it by having nothing but fallacy for rebuttals.
 

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In the computer age, facts can be manufactured. As people come to see this day after day, they become immune to claims of "fact-hood," believing instead that it is just some partisan's "version" of the facts that is being presented.

Take "Global Warming"/"Climate Change." Both sides have mountains of facts to support their positions on the issues, and often those facts can be extracted from publications of the other side.


Quote:
Here are three more that might surprise you, drawn directly from recent published research or the latest assessments of climate science published by the U.S. government and the U.N.:
  • Humans have had no detectable impact on hurricanes over the past century.
  • Greenland’s ice sheet isn’t shrinking any more rapidly today than it was 80 years ago.
  • The net economic impact of human-induced climate change will be minimal through at least the end of this century.
And yet, every day brings headlines of catastrophic projections from our own government sources - said to have been suppressed during the 45 Administration.

This is why "facts" don't change people's minds. Along with the fact that most people are too stupid to assess the difference between actual data and something they observed in their uncle's dog ten years ago ("anecdotal evidence").
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You can say that with a straight face considering you support a known criminal and a man who keeps having to refund cash to his victims of fraud?

Quid Pro is a criminal. He has been for 50 years. He is a traitor who has sold out the country for envelopes full of cash.

We get it. Trump interfered with the gravy train. He infringed on the graft machine that the Reich so carefully crafted. Taxpayer money to Ukraine, Ukraine money to Paul Pelosi Jr. Chris Heinz, Hunter Biden, et al. Just a way to launder cash that the Nazi elite were stealing from tax payers as fast as their greedy little paws could.
 

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The Insignificance of Reality in the Politics of the Left​

A page and a half to accuse us of what you're already doing.

Who writes the crap for you?
And they claim the Dems are communist yet can't show what makes them communist...Last week they were Nazi's......This stupid bitch can't make up her mind which name to call people she doesn't know.
 

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And they claim the Dems are communist yet can't show what makes them communist...Last week they were Nazi's......This stupid bitch can't make up her mind which name to call people she doesn't know.

The filthy and shameful democrat party are collectivist totalitarians. Your Reich is dedicated to the eradication of civil rights, individual liberty, and individualism itself. You crush free speech, free association, religion, a free press (your Reich propaganda corps isn't a free press). You used the Gestapo to hunt down enemies of your Reich and kick in doors. You forcibly silence ANYONE who dares criticize your filthy Reich.

Looks to me like the stupid bitch is you. Again you cannot address any of the facts or arguments. You're not smart, I get it, you can't craft logical and reasonable arguments, I get it, you are shit flinging feral baboon, I get it.
 

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How are we Nazis, be specific or eat your words you liar. The OP is closer to both parties and not just the one.

Again, you drooling troll?

You follow a Reich that seeks the central planning and control of the economy under an authoritarian, central ruler where liberty is snuffed out in favor of group privilege, where the party has absolute control of the press who are nothing more than propaganda for the Reich, where a race (whites) are singled out as a scapegoat and painted by the Reich press as the enemy of the people to be reviled and oppressed by both social and governmental powers. Where religion is forcibly suppressed and permitted only where it promoted the goals of the Reich, where political opposition is violently suppressed and any challenge to the party is termed "sedition" or "treason." Where speech against the party or Reich is a criminal act. Where expression is controlled by the party and any speaking against the party are cancelled.

Go ahead and lie to me, baboon boi, but don't lie to yourself. You ARE a Nazi; you are part of the Nazi party.
 

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You can say that with a straight face considering you support a known criminal and a man who keeps having to refund cash to his victims of fraud?

Quid Pro is a criminal. He has been for 50 years. He is a traitor who has sold out the country for envelopes full of cash.

We get it. Trump interfered with the gravy train. He infringed on the graft machine that the Reich so carefully crafted. Taxpayer money to Ukraine, Ukraine money to Paul Pelosi Jr. Chris Heinz, Hunter Biden, et al. Just a way to launder cash that the Nazi elite were stealing from tax payers as fast as their greedy little paws could.
Isn't right wing fantasy wonderful. Do the Russians pay you to be their willing tool?
 

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And they claim the Dems are communist yet can't show what makes them communist...Last week they were Nazi's......This stupid bitch can't make up her mind which name to call people she doesn't know.

The filthy and shameful democrat party are collectivist totalitarians. Your Reich is dedicated to the eradication of civil rights, individual liberty, and individualism itself. You crush free speech, free association, religion, a free press (your Reich propaganda corps isn't a free press). You used the Gestapo to hunt down enemies of your Reich and kick in doors. You forcibly silence ANYONE who dares criticize your filthy Reich.

Looks to me like the stupid bitch is you. Again you cannot address any of the facts or arguments. You're not smart, I get it, you can't craft logical and reasonable arguments, I get it, you are shit flinging feral baboon, I get it.
Both parties are the same and they are both authoritarians, I don't care if you agree but I hate what both parties do, you on the other hand accept the authoritarianism and support a political party by voting for them, I do not.
 

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The Insignificance of Reality in the Politics of the Left​

A page and a half to accuse us of what you're already doing.

Who writes the crap for you?
And they claim the Dems are communist yet can't show what makes them communist...Last week they were Nazi's......This stupid bitch can't make up her mind which name to call people she doesn't know.
She really just needs a full body massage with Happy ending to be happier.
 

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How are we Nazis, be specific or eat your words you liar. The OP is closer to both parties and not just the one.

Again, you drooling troll?

You follow a Reich that seeks the central planning and control of the economy under an authoritarian, central ruler where liberty is snuffed out in favor of group privilege, where the party has absolute control of the press who are nothing more than propaganda for the Reich, where a race (whites) are singled out as a scapegoat and painted by the Reich press as the enemy of the people to be reviled and oppressed by both social and governmental powers. Where religion is forcibly suppressed and permitted only where it promoted the goals of the Reich, where political opposition is violently suppressed and any challenge to the party is termed "sedition" or "treason." Where speech against the party or Reich is a criminal act. Where expression is controlled by the party and any speaking against the party are cancelled.

Go ahead and lie to me, baboon boi, but don't lie to yourself. You ARE a Nazi; you are part of the Nazi party.
The words you use are not American so I am guessing you are not American. being a Nazi means you subscribe to Nazism and yet you have a severe lack of Nazism in our govt. Your inability to discuss the issue shows a lack of character in the fact that you have to be a fanatic and fly off the handle and hurl pejoratives only proves you have no idea of anything you speak of...
The entire OP is a cut-n-paste half assed attempt to make a story form partial stories with those scary words thrown in for I guess bed wetting Republicans such as the OP and yourself.
 

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