The inept and corrupt federal government

[billyerock1991]

So,,we have a paying for problem, not a spending problem...what a ******* democrat moron you are.....

Oh, exactly. You see, when you jerkwads insist on tax cuts without paying for them, the cause of most of our debt, you actually make bigger and more government more attractive.

Look at all the great stuff I get and I don't have to pay for it! That's Awesome!!!

If you had taxes at a high enough rate to pay what we get, people might question some of the bigger ticket items. Do we REALLY need 12 Aircraft Carrier Groups to play hall monitor in the Middle East?

You do realize you don't pay for tax cuts you liberal fucktard, right?

it amazes me how stupid you really are ... they guy was talking about not paying for government programs by cutting taxes ... you moron no money the debt goes up ... like we have said cutting taxes doesn't stop the national debt from rising it only makkes it worse ...

Yes, you fucktard liberals always tell us we have a paying for problem....

Trump is the only one with a plan to deal with your mess....

and the stupid one keeps getting even more stupid ... does you head hurt when you type???

 

[P@triot]

Joseph...we've had this conversation a zillion times already. All of us want the wealthy to "pay their fair share". Which is why we need to cut their taxes by about 60% and make parasites such as yourself and Billyerock1991 actually start paying taxes. You parasites want a free ride.

Actually, if they got their fair share, t hey wouldn't be rich. I see a rich person, I see someone who cheated the people who did the actual work. Trump didn't get out there with a hammer and nails and build Trump Tower, a lot of working class folks did.

Trump did the hard work. The 18 hour days. You can (and they have) train a monkey to hammer nails. The people you worship put in 8 hour days of mindless, unskilled labor and you want them to have all of the money because you're envious.

 

[Rustic]

Obama and the Dems had full control in 2009. All they did was add $2 trillion to the national debt. Idiot.

You mean after Bush put a war on a credit card and gave huge tax cuts to the rich that didn't help the economy?

Oh yeah, and gave us the worst recession in 80 years.

Ah, I remember the good old days when the Republicans gave us an economic disaster, they made them sit it out for 20 years and not let them come back until they nominated a war hero who got it.

Shit for brains, socialist entitlement programs dominate the budget and the debt. you really ought to get out more, It must be boring in your mothers basement.

 

[rightwinger]

Joseph...we've had this conversation a zillion times already. All of us want the wealthy to "pay their fair share". Which is why we need to cut their taxes by about 60% and make parasites such as yourself and Billyerock1991 actually start paying taxes. You parasites want a free ride.

Actually, if they got their fair share, t hey wouldn't be rich. I see a rich person, I see someone who cheated the people who did the actual work.

Trump didn't get out there with a hammer and nails and build Trump Tower, a lot of working class folks did. And he managed it so badly he nearly went bankrupt in the 1990's.

Incidentally, I paid close to $15,000 in taxes last year on some $56,000 in income. So, um, no, I'm paying my fair share. The rich need to pay theirs.

You're not real bright if you paid 15k taxes on 51k income.

Like Trump said...smart people don't pay taxes
Taxes are for stupid working people

 

[Rustic]

Nooooo....parasites like you and billyerock1991 "want government to do all this stuff". The rest of us (rational Americans that is) want the government restricted to their 18 enumerated powers and not one damn more.

If that's the case, then why can't you win presidential elections?

And that's not even stating your goal. You'd do a lot worse saying, "We're going to slash Medicare and Social Security, bwahahahaha!" Which is why you guys never say that out loud.

Nobody wants Nana moving into the spare bedroom because she isn't getting social security anymore.

"but, but, the Founding fathers said so".

Yeah, they also raped their slaves and shit in chamber pots and bled themselves when they got sick. I don't think I'll take their advice on how to run a modern society terribly seriously.

The country can't afford frivolous socialist programs, but the federal government doesn't give a shit what's good for the country. fact

 

[P@triot]

oh yeah ...this 2 trillion you speak of that was part of the debt Bush created by not putting the money he took to pay for his wars into the national budget ... when obama took office that's was the first thing he started doing ... he put all the debt the previous administration had into the nation budget... that why it went up 2 trillion dollars in debt ... nice try but like all your statements here, they are filled with republican rhetoric with no factual bases to them ...

Bwahahahahaha! Hey stupid...it doesn't work that way. All of Bush's debt was fully accounted for when he left office. Obama and the Dumbocrats added $2 trillion because they started throwing money around like it was candy at a parade. Over half a billion to Solyndra and they still went out of business. Bailouts to GM (so much for ending "corporate welfare"). Bailouts to Chrysler (so much for ending "corporate welfare"). Bailouts to Citibank (so much for ending "corporate welfare"). Bailouts to Wall Street (so much for ending "corporate welfare").

 

[Rustic]

Joseph...we've had this conversation a zillion times already. All of us want the wealthy to "pay their fair share". Which is why we need to cut their taxes by about 60% and make parasites such as yourself and Billyerock1991 actually start paying taxes. You parasites want a free ride.

Actually, if they got their fair share, t hey wouldn't be rich. I see a rich person, I see someone who cheated the people who did the actual work.

Trump didn't get out there with a hammer and nails and build Trump Tower, a lot of working class folks did. And he managed it so badly he nearly went bankrupt in the 1990's.

Incidentally, I paid close to $15,000 in taxes last year on some $56,000 in income. So, um, no, I'm paying my fair share. The rich need to pay theirs.

You're not real bright if you paid 15k taxes on 51k income.

Like Trump said...smart people don't pay taxes
Taxes are for stupid working people

Income tax is Unconstitutional...

 

[JoeB131]

No they didn't and I'll take what the founders say and did over this corrupt and abominable govt any day....ANY DAY.

Uh, yeah, they did.

Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemings. (Sorry, when you are property, you can't "consent'.)
Indoor plumbing didn't exist in 1776, so they all shit in chamber pots.
George Washington was bled by his doctors when he died in 1799. Probably contributed to his death.

 

[Rustic]

No they didn't and I'll take what the founders say and did over this corrupt and abominable govt any day....ANY DAY.

Uh, yeah, they did.

Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemings. (Sorry, when you are property, you can't "consent'.)
Indoor plumbing didn't exist in 1776, so they all shit in chamber pots.
George Washington was bled by his doctors when he died in 1799. Probably contributed to his death.

Do you like talking out your ass? It's best if you stay in your mothers basement in seclusion

 

[P@triot]

Shit for brains, socialist entitlement programs dominate the budget and the debt. you really ought to get out more, It must be boring in your mothers basement.

Exactly like Rustic said:

 

[JoeB131]

I don't know what America you grew up in but the one I did has had more Republican presidents than Dumbocrat. At one point we had 12 straight glorious years of Republican presidents. And in the last 16 years we had 8 years of Dumbocrats and 8 years of Republican. Any other lies you want to try?

Uh, yeah, and you haven't won a fair election since 1988. (You stole 2000 and scared the shit out of people in 2004 and only barely won).

But to the point. When Hoover crashed the economy in 1929, they made The GOP sit on the sidelines for 20 years. That's how it should be when you **** up.

 

[JoeB131]

Shit for brains, socialist entitlement programs dominate the budget and the debt. you really ought to get out more, It must be boring in your mothers basement.

Exactly like Rustic said:
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NOt sure why you put interests down as an "entitlement". Of course, you also leave out things like the cost of the VA, which is part of the cost of a Military Industrial Complex.

 

[owebo]

Joseph...we've had this conversation a zillion times already. All of us want the wealthy to "pay their fair share". Which is why we need to cut their taxes by about 60% and make parasites such as yourself and Billyerock1991 actually start paying taxes. You parasites want a free ride.

Actually, if they got their fair share, t hey wouldn't be rich. I see a rich person, I see someone who cheated the people who did the actual work.

Trump didn't get out there with a hammer and nails and build Trump Tower, a lot of working class folks did. And he managed it so badly he nearly went bankrupt in the 1990's.

Incidentally, I paid close to $15,000 in taxes last year on some $56,000 in income. So, um, no, I'm paying my fair share. The rich need to pay theirs.

You're not real bright if you paid 15k taxes on 51k income.

Like Trump said...smart people don't pay taxes
Taxes are for stupid working people

Trump also said hitlery could have changed that, and she purposely didn't....

 

[P@triot]

Corruption:

Seven more Hillary Clinton scandals exposed by WikiLeaks

you do realize none of those leaks have been corroborated don't you ...i realize you don't like the Idea that 17 government and private security companies have said they can't be trusted because they appear to be altered from the original email ...

"Altered" :LMAO:

Look at the cute little tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist denying reality (denying reality is what progressives do best). Dude...even Hitlery and her team are not denying the emails at all. You really are the ultimate little "useful idiot" to the Dumbocrats, uh sparky?

 

[billyerock1991]

The federal government has reached levels of ineptitude and corruption the likes of which have never been seen before by man. They are nearly $20 trillion in debt, have far exceeded the 18 enumerated powers they were authorized to oversee, and are now oppressing the very people they are supposed to answer to and represent.

We don't want to make the rich pay their fair share to do it.

Joseph...we've had this conversation a zillion times already. All of us want the wealthy to "pay their fair share". Which is why we need to cut their taxes by about 60% and make parasites such as yourself and Billyerock1991 actually start paying taxes. You parasites want a free ride.

I pay taxes ... a lot of taxes ... so don't speak about something you know nothing about ...what the **** are you talking about ... cut their taxes by 60% ??? really you want to show us that failed attempt of yours ??? 60% what planet do you live on .. flat 34% tax rate on incomes from $335,000 to $10,000,000, gradually increasing to a flat rate of 35% on incomes above $18,333,333. and you're trying to tell us 60% now who's the liar here ... plus with all of their deductions they're lucky to even pay a tax ... why do people like you have to lie so much to try and prove a point ... just because you failed at the last point you tried to prove ... 60% really you want to go with that lie ...

 

[P@triot]

Shit for brains, socialist entitlement programs dominate the budget and the debt. you really ought to get out more, It must be boring in your mothers basement.

Exactly like Rustic said:
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NOt sure why you put interests down as an "entitlement". Of course, you also leave out things like the cost of the VA, which is part of the cost of a Military Industrial Complex.

Got love JoeB "logic". Take care of crack addicts who refuse to hold a job but complain about taking care of our veterans who served our country.

 

[Rustic]

Shit for brains, socialist entitlement programs dominate the budget and the debt. you really ought to get out more, It must be boring in your mothers basement.

Exactly like Rustic said:
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NOt sure why you put interests down as an "entitlement". Of course, you also leave out things like the cost of the VA, which is part of the cost of a Military Industrial Complex.

You're talking out your ass again, socialist entitlement program is just that... lol

 

[JoeB131]

Trump did the hard work. The 18 hour days. You can (and they have) train a monkey to hammer nails. The people you worship put in 8 hour days of mindless, unskilled labor and you want them to have all of the money because you're envious.

I want them to have a fair pay for hard work.

Trump skill was 1) Having a rich Daddy and 2) Hiring people who didn't let his self-destructive tendencies completely bankrupt him.

The point is, the 1% have 43% of the wealth, but they aren't doing 43% of the labor.

If you let the wealthy cheat the unskilled labor, they'll cheat the skilled labor soon enough.

 

[JoeB131]

Got love JoeB "logic". Take care of crack addicts who refuse to hold a job but complain about taking care of our veterans who served our country.

NOt sure where you got that. I was talking about how you manipulate the numbers by leaving out the costs of veterans programs on your chart. That's part of the cost of doing business.

Of course, on the subject of crack addicts, you wingnuts throw them in prison at a very high cost instead of treating their addictions and reforming them...

European countries treat addiction like a disease, we make it a crime.

ANother example of why you can't be trusted to make the decisions.

 

[billyerock1991]

Corruption:

Seven more Hillary Clinton scandals exposed by WikiLeaks

you do realize none of those leaks have been corroborated don't you ...i realize you don't like the Idea that 17 government and private security companies have said they can't be trusted because they appear to be altered from the original email ...

"Altered" :LMAO:

Look at the cute little tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist denying reality (denying reality is what progressives do best). Dude...even Hitlery and her team are not denying the emails at all. You really are the ultimate little "useful idiot" to the Dumbocrats, uh sparky?

they have made no such statement yet... so your reason is just because they haven't made a statement they are guilty ... I forgot ... ... kind of like I never touched those nine women ... kind of like I never had sexual realtions with that woman denial huh ...