The Incompetence of the GOP

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Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​

 
Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​

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Admittedly bad enough, but it still beats by a mile BEING the machine being raged against and to a very harmful effect.
A GOP devoid of any meaningful, substantive policy positions is also part of the problem.

Hateful, racist, bigoted anti-immigrant nativism, appeasing Putin on Ukraine, and partisan revenge ‘investigations’ completely devoid of merit is reckless, irresponsible governance.
 
Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​


Dead right.

Incompetence vs. evil

I know which way I'm going
 
Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​


McCarthy is a liberal with a republican label. Just like Trump. If the new GOP is wanting to get rid of the CINO's (conservative in name only), they need to keep McCarthy of getting the speaker position. But since Trump has giving McCarthy the nod, I suspect McCarthy will win without issue.

Undoubtedly, this would be a great chance for the fiscal conservatives to finally break free of the Trump stranglehold. But I don't see it happening.
 
Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​

The Democrats remain what they've been -- good soldiers (mostly) who are still ideologically tied at the hip to bad issues and easy targets like PC and Identity Politics, and who refuse to back off of them because they think they know where their bread is buttered. They traded all that for the white middle class, and now some of their formerly core constituents have had enough. Just brilliant. We'll see what happens without Pelosi, who knew how to mitigate (a bit of) this.

The GQP? Good gawd. What is this? It's professional wrestling. These people have spent the last 30+ years being conditioned not only on what to think, but (far worse) how to think by craven cowards who make a living manipulating them. They think the propaganda they're sold is real. They're so far gone that they're literally detached from reality. And now there are pro wrestling True Believers who are in Congress, where this madness is magnified 100,000x every damn day.

The "leadership" of the GQP are cowards. Unless and until more of them find a backbone and fight this, it continues. I don't think this is incompetence. This is raw cowardice.

We desperately need to change our system. And we desperately need at least one more national party. This is cancer.
 
The Democrats remain what they've been -- good soldiers (mostly) who are still ideologically tied at the hip to bad issues and easy targets like PC and Identity Politics, and who refuse to back off of them because they think they know where their bread is buttered. They traded all that for the white middle class, and now some of their formerly core constituents have had enough. Just brilliant. We'll see what happens without Pelosi, who knew how to mitigate (a bit of) this.

The GQP? Good gawd. What is this? It's professional wrestling. These people have spent the last 30+ years being conditioned not only on what to think, but (far worse) how to think by craven cowards who make a living manipulating them. They think the propaganda they're sold is real. They're so far gone that they're literally detached from reality. And now there are pro wrestling True Believers who are in Congress, where this madness is magnified 100,000x every damn day.

The "leadership" of the GQP are cowards. Unless and until more of them find a backbone and fight this, it continues.

We desperately need to change our system. And we desperately need at least one more national party. This is cancer.

Yes, it's just you, Mac, the lone sole voice of reason crying out in the wilderness.

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Because when your MO is rage and grievance rather than anything intellectually coherent, why not?

If a Martian arrived in Washington this week not knowing who had won the November election, he’d be forgiven for thinking it was the Democrats. Usually the losers are in disarray, but not this time.​
Democrats in the House minority have completed a seamless change of House leadership to a younger generation with little internal dissent. But Republicans, who ostensibly won the majority, can’t even find the votes to elect a GOP Speaker, much less agree on budget strategy or much of anything else.​
After the election, Kevin McCarthy won the GOP caucus vote to become House GOP leader against Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs, 188-31. But Mr. Biggs won’t take resounding defeat for an answer, and he is now planning to run against Mr. McCarthy for Speaker on the House floor on Jan. 3. A handful of other backbenchers say they’ll also oppose Mr. McCarthy, which could lead to multiple ballots and perhaps even a Democratic Speaker.​
What’s bizarre is that the dissenters don’t have major policy differences with Mr. McCarthy or a plausible alternative candidate for Speaker. Mr. Biggs has no chance. He and his rump group also don’t seem to have any constructive reason to oppose Mr. McCarthy beyond a desire to grab the media spotlight or blow everything up.​
Their main demand is so self-defeating it could have come from Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The dissenters want Mr. McCarthy to concede that any Member could call the chair vacant and insist on a vote to replace the sitting Speaker. In order to get the votes to become Speaker, Mr. McCarthy is supposed to weaken himself so much that he wouldn’t be able to govern as Speaker.​
Yet a narrow GOP majority of only 222-213 requires a leader who can enforce party discipline. That’s how Nancy Pelosi has been able to govern with the mirror-image majority in the last two years. Too many House Republicans are too dimwitted to understand the uses of power and how to wield it. They’d rather rage against the machine to no useful effect.​

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Well, you know what they say about opinions.

BTW, your cut and paste skills are fantastic. Keep it up.


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A GOP devoid of any meaningful, substantive policy positions is also part of the problem.

Hateful, racist, bigoted anti-immigrant nativism, appeasing Putin on Ukraine, and partisan revenge ‘investigations’ completely devoid of merit is reckless, irresponsible governance.
The dismantling of the Republic into a Democracy enroute to a Progressive Socialist utopia and finally dictatorship with communist overturns is where we are headed. Watching the Progs in the lame duck congress tells us all we want to know after all of the Prog inspired legislation the last two years and over many decades. There is nowhere to go after here.
 
A GOP devoid of any meaningful, substantive policy positions is also part of the problem.

Hateful, racist, bigoted anti-immigrant nativism, appeasing Putin on Ukraine, and partisan revenge ‘investigations’ completely devoid of merit is reckless, irresponsible governance.
YOu are an idiot. There is more hate and bigotry coming from you then anyone person in the gop

Revenge? Biden epitomizes revenge.
 
A GOP devoid of any meaningful, substantive policy positions is also part of the problem.
It sure is.

Hateful, racist, bigoted anti-immigrant nativism, appeasing Putin on Ukraine, and partisan revenge ‘investigations’ completely devoid of merit is reckless, irresponsible governance.
Yes, but the democrats won't have it any other way.
 

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