The Hungarian Prime Minister - a true leader (Tucker interview).

[B. Kidd]

Tucker is always one-step ahead of the tyrannical Neo-Marxist curve!
He's the right man on a soapbox at the right time!!

 

[Doc7505]

Victor Orban is a dictator and and a Russian stooge

Of course Trump Humpers love him

Then why are Democrats and Bai Dung in particular backing Marxists rather than the present Prime Minister Orban?

 

[Mac-7]

just love the lack of democracy in Hungary now and see it as America's future when El Presindente for Life Donald Trump reigns..

Hungary is a successful democratic nation

but not a destination for muslims who hate western values like most of western europe

 

[Doc7505]

Of course this list of fascism has been posted many times, but a refresher seems to be necessary:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
   Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
   
   
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
   Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
   
   
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
   The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
   
   
4. Supremacy of the Military
   Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
   
   
5. Rampant Sexism
   The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
   
   
6. Controlled Mass Media
   Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
   
   
7. Obsession with National Security
   Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
   
   
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
   Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
   
   
9. Corporate Power is Protected
   The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
   
   
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
    
    
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
    
    
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    
    
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    
    
14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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You just described exactly what Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats have been doing for decades.... Strangely Globalism, and genocidal mass murder were omitted.....
Britt is absolutely biased to treat conservatism as fascism, Orwell nailed this years ago.
This is the description of Communism except maybe for nationalism.
Fascism is the code word for Marxist Socialist Commies of all stripes.
Note that there are zero elements of this list that are conservative.
Palestinians, Hezbollah and Iran and they could all put a swastika right on their flags. PMS/DSA Democrat Commies would still support them. Just as they do today.
I prefer to balance the screeds of 'Britt' and Rye Catcher with the treatise by Ernest Nolte "Fascism is Epoch" translated into English and renamed The Three Faces of Fascism".
Meanwhile the truth of the matter lies in specific facts.
Why do the PMS/DSA Democrats Commies;

• Consistently disregards the Constitution, and consistently attacks several items of the Bill of Rights, including Right to Free Speech, Freedom of religion, and right to bear arms.
• Weaponized the awesome power of the federal government (FBI, IRS, CFPB, DOJ) for political their purposes. Empowered violent gangs (BLM, Antifa) to shut down the speech of its political opponents.
• Colluded with the most powerful companies the world has ever seen (Facebook, Google, Amazon) to shut down the speech of its political opponents.
• Rejected the enforcement of laws they don’t like - defense of marriage, immigration laws and voting laws.
• Passing Congressional Bills filled with the costliest of regulations, heavily taxing the middle class American and over-regulating everything that citizens do.

​

 

[theHawk]

I have yet to see one communist policy enacted, which one of the imaginary ones have you seen implemented?

Unilaterally ordering all employees to get vaccinated with an experimental vaccine. Enforcing vaccine passports.

All something a communist regime would do, and is completely unconstitutional.

 

[colfax_m]

Hungary is a successful democratic nation

I don’t think you know much about Hungary.

 

[Rye Catcher]

~~~~~~
You just described exactly what Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats have been doing for decades.... Strangely Globalism, and genocidal mass murder were omitted.....
Britt is absolutely biased to treat conservatism as fascism, Orwell nailed this years ago.
This is the description of Communism except maybe for nationalism.
Fascism is the code word for Marxist Socialist Commies of all stripes.
Note that there are zero elements of this list that are conservative.
Palestinians, Hezbollah and Iran and they could all put a swastika right on their flags. PMS/DSA Democrat Commies would still support them. Just as they do today.
I prefer to balance the screeds of 'Britt' and Rye Catcher with the treatise by Ernest Nolte "Fascism is Epoch" translated into English and renamed The Three Faces of Fascism".
Meanwhile the truth of the matter lies in specific facts.
Why do the PMS/DSA Democrats Commies;

• Consistently disregards the Constitution, and consistently attacks several items of the Bill of Rights, including Right to Free Speech, Freedom of religion, and right to bear arms.
• Weaponized the awesome power of the federal government (FBI, IRS, CFPB, DOJ) for political their purposes. Empowered violent gangs (BLM, Antifa) to shut down the speech of its political opponents.
• Colluded with the most powerful companies the world has ever seen (Facebook, Google, Amazon) to shut down the speech of its political opponents.
• Rejected the enforcement of laws they don’t like - defense of marriage, immigration laws and voting laws.
• Passing Congressional Bills filled with the costliest of regulations, heavily taxing the middle class American and over-regulating everything that citizens do.

​

I read your first sentence, determined it was a lie and didn't read another word. You must be stupid to deny all 14 points define Trumpism.

 

[Mac-7]

don’t think you know much about Hungary.

Ok, explain it to us

whats wrong with Hungary?

 

[Pellinore]

You’re the ones agog about Biden.

Can you name any “fascist” policies of Hungary?

I can.

- As soon as Orban took power, he and his Parliament allies redrew the voting lines to give his rural supporters more voting power than urban ones. That weakens democracy, which is what fascism needs to do to take over.
- He passed a law giving ethnic Hungarians living outside of the country a vote, which went overwhelmingly for him. That also weakened their democracy.
- He created fake parties to split the anti-Orban vote and give him the power. Manipulating the vote to get in power is a hallmark of fascism.
- He packed the court, by forcing all judges over a certain age to retire, then expanding the seats, and filling them all with his people. That gives him power over the judiciary, improving his authoritarianism and weakening the democracy.
- He fired a bunch of civil servants and filled their positions with his people. That gave him even more autocratic power.
- He took over the media, passing laws to force almost every media outlet to either sell to the government, or do what he said. That is a hallmark of fascism.
- He is doing the same with significant corporations. That is also a hallmark of fascism.
- Orban's government stripped about 200 religious institutions of state support, letting only 14 keep it. Control over religion is yet another hallmark of fascism.

He's not up to the Adolf/Benito levels of bold fascism yet—he hasn't embraced a massive military buildup, for example—but certainly bears a lot of their characteristics.

 

[theHawk]

I can.

- As soon as Orban took power, he and his Parliament allies redrew the voting lines to give his rural supporters more voting power than urban ones. That weakens democracy, which is what fascism needs to do to take over.
- He passed a law giving ethnic Hungarians living outside of the country a vote, which went overwhelmingly for him. That also weakened their democracy.
- He created fake parties to split the anti-Orban vote and give him the power. Manipulating the vote to get in power is a hallmark of fascism.
- He packed the court, by forcing all judges over a certain age to retire, then expanding the seats, and filling them all with his people. That gives him power over the judiciary, improving his authoritarianism and weakening the democracy.
- He fired a bunch of civil servants and filled their positions with his people. That gave him even more autocratic power.
- He took over the media, passing laws to force almost every media outlet to either sell to the government, or do what he said. That is a hallmark of fascism.
- He is doing the same with significant corporations. That is also a hallmark of fascism.
- Orban's government stripped about 200 religious institutions of state support, letting only 14 keep it. Control over religion is yet another hallmark of fascism.

He's not up to the Adolf/Benito levels of bold fascism yet—he hasn't embraced a massive military buildup, for example—but certainly bears a lot of their characteristics.

The same things are done in every country by various political parties on both sides. Nice try but total failure to show a “fascist” policy.

 

[Pellinore]

The same things are done in every country by various political parties on both sides. Nice try but total failure to show a “fascist” policy.

You think so? Because we haven't done any of them.

Do you in fact know what fascism is?

 

[ESay]

Hungary is a successful democratic nation

Which has become so due to a free access to Europaen market and direct financial allowances from the EU budget.

 

[Mac-7]

Which has become so due to a free access to Europaen market and direct financial allowances from the EU budget.

Meaning what?

that Hungary owes the EU an Andrea Merkle approved social policy that includes open doors for African and muslim refugees?

 

[ESay]

Meaning what?

that Hungary owes the EU an Andrea Merkle approved social policy that includes open doors for African and muslim refugees?

I just stated the fact. And if you don't like the policy of some union, then get out of this union. It is somewhat fairer than getting the benefits from it and criticizing it at the same time.

 

[Mac-7]

I just stated the fact. And if you don't like the policy of some union, then get out of this union. It is somewhat fairer than getting the benefits from it and criticizing it at the same t

During the interview with Tucker Carlson
O was careful not to criticize the policy of the EU as it relates to those countries

he didnt say it so I will

If guilt-ridden white libs want to destroy the culture and national identity of their county thats up to them

but Hungary declines to do so

 

[ESay]

During the interview with Tucker Carlson
O was careful not to criticize the policy of the EU as it relates to those countries

he didnt say it so I will

If guilt-ridden white libs want to destroy the culture and national identity of their county thats up to them

but Hungary declines to do so

The reason why some European countries recieve immigrants from the Middle East and some parts of Africa is the same why the US do this with regard of Mexico and Central America.

I am not so sure that Eastern Europe won't go along this way at some point in the future.

 

[Mac-7]

The reason why some European countries recieve immigrants from the Middle East and some parts of Africa is the same why the US do this with regard of Mexico and Central America

Its a very bad policy for America also

 

[ESay]

Its a very bad policy for America also

Bad or not, but you need someone who will do low paid and other jobs the 'natives' don't want to do and pay taxes to support your social programs.

 

[Mac-7]

but you need someone who will do low paid and other jobs the 'natives' don't want to do and pay taxes to support your social programs.

Thats for your county to decide

or for the EU to decide for you

but in America our broken welfare system has produced an excess of uneducated slobs who heretofore have been to lazy to work

so we really dont need shoeless peasants from centrsl America to do the jobs that Americans should be doing

 

[Lesh]

I can.

- As soon as Orban took power, he and his Parliament allies redrew the voting lines to give his rural supporters more voting power than urban ones. That weakens democracy, which is what fascism needs to do to take over.
- He passed a law giving ethnic Hungarians living outside of the country a vote, which went overwhelmingly for him. That also weakened their democracy.
- He created fake parties to split the anti-Orban vote and give him the power. Manipulating the vote to get in power is a hallmark of fascism.
- He packed the court, by forcing all judges over a certain age to retire, then expanding the seats, and filling them all with his people. That gives him power over the judiciary, improving his authoritarianism and weakening the democracy.
- He fired a bunch of civil servants and filled their positions with his people. That gave him even more autocratic power.
- He took over the media, passing laws to force almost every media outlet to either sell to the government, or do what he said. That is a hallmark of fascism.
- He is doing the same with significant corporations. That is also a hallmark of fascism.
- Orban's government stripped about 200 religious institutions of state support, letting only 14 keep it. Control over religion is yet another hallmark of fascism.

He's not up to the Adolf/Benito levels of bold fascism yet—he hasn't embraced a massive military buildup, for example—but certainly bears a lot of their characteristics.

So of course right wing Trumpers love this creep