The human cost of insulin in America

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The human cost of insulin in America

Stories of Americans rationing insulin - and dying for it - have been making national headlines.

The most famous case, perhaps, was 26-year-old Alec Smith, who died in 2017 less than a month after he aged out of his mother's health insurance plan. Despite working full-time making more than minimum wage, he could not afford to buy new insurance or pay the $1,000 a month for insulin without it.

I cant get my head around this . Surely if someone was unable to afford the drugs and became ill then their Doctor would give them the drugs to prevent them dying ?
 

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Insulin has been around now for close to a hundred years.

It’s cost should be no more than aspirin by now.

Shameful!
 

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The rich live/poor die

that's capitalism

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Not if they pay attention and let someone know. There are plenty of programs out there to pay for or help pay for it. If you have diabetes, you need to be pro active, and not wait until the last minute. And, guaranteed, if you walk into a hospital or call an ambulance and need an insulin injection, it will be given to you, regardless of ability to pay
 
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Not if they pay attention and let someone know. There are plenty of programs out there to pay for or help pay for it. If you have diabetes, you need to be pro active, and not wait until the last minute. And, guaranteed, if you walk into a hospital or call an ambulance and need an insulin injection, it will be given to you, regardless of ability to pay
This sounds like a total disconnect from the article. Why was he not aware of any potential help ? Or did he not qualify ?
 

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And, guaranteed, if you walk into a hospital or call an ambulance and need an insulin injection, it will be given to you, regardless of ability to pay
D50 depotoo......which won't help the hyperglycemic.

But you've a point, the emergency services, as well as ER's can't refuse treatment under JACHO

Which is exactly why we've a pandemic of ER's closing in America

In response, the insurance cabal , who basically own everything out to neptune, are opening wellness /walk in / clinics .......specifically to refuse the great unwashed....

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20140911.041343/full/


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And, guaranteed, if you walk into a hospital or call an ambulance and need an insulin injection, it will be given to you, regardless of ability to pay
D50 depotoo......which won't help the hyperglycemic.

But you've a point, the emergency services, as well as ER's can't refuse treatment under JACHO

Which is exactly why we've a pandemic of ER's closing in America

In response, the insurance cabal , who basically own everything out to neptune, are opening wellness /walk in / clinics .......specifically to refuse the great unwashed....

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20140911.041343/full/


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A and E departments over here are also under threat. The difference here is that we can turf out the politicians who make these decisions. They tread warily around the will of the people.
But that story is pretty shocking.
 

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Because it's been socialist medicine for decades there , it removed and displaced the greed along with the influence(s) of greed we have to deal with here

pros/cons Tom

what i can tell you is, America is a lousy country to get sick and/or old in.....IF you've no $$$$

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Because it's been socialist medicine for decades there , it removed and displaced the greed along with the influence(s) of greed we have to deal with here

pros/cons Tom

what i can tell you is, America is a lousy country to get sick and/or old in.....IF you've no $$$$

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There are a few things that government can do better than the corporations. Health is one of them.
 

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There are a few things that government can do better than the corporations. Health is one of them.
That’s irrelevant, even if I agreed with it, because the US Constitution does not legally allow the Federal Government to be involved in health care or medical care of any type.
 

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There are a few things that government can do better than the corporations. Health is one of them
Well that depends on one's point of view Tom.

In our case one could well argue 'we the people' as being a directive

VS a target

or in other terms. view it as a collectivist vs. libetrairian document

devil/details per usual , eh?

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There are a few things that government can do better than the corporations. Health is one of them
Well that depends on one's point of view Tom.

In our case one could well argue 'we the people' as being a directive

VS a target

or in other terms. view it as a collectivist vs. libetrairian document

devil/details per usual , eh?

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Just out of curiosity can you explain to me where, in the Constitution, the government gets the authority to be involved in our healthcare? No flaming intended here, just a question.

The federal government has the authority to promote general welfare, but no mandate to enforce laws that are between doctor and patient, the costs of drugs (though other means can be employed to bring those costs way down.) What did you see in the Constitution that I missed?
 

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The human cost of insulin in America

Stories of Americans rationing insulin - and dying for it - have been making national headlines.

The most famous case, perhaps, was 26-year-old Alec Smith, who died in 2017 less than a month after he aged out of his mother's health insurance plan. Despite working full-time making more than minimum wage, he could not afford to buy new insurance or pay the $1,000 a month for insulin without it.

I cant get my head around this . Surely if someone was unable to afford the drugs and became ill then their Doctor would give them the drugs to prevent them dying ?
You people are too used to others giving you shit.
 
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The human cost of insulin in America

Stories of Americans rationing insulin - and dying for it - have been making national headlines.

The most famous case, perhaps, was 26-year-old Alec Smith, who died in 2017 less than a month after he aged out of his mother's health insurance plan. Despite working full-time making more than minimum wage, he could not afford to buy new insurance or pay the $1,000 a month for insulin without it.

I cant get my head around this . Surely if someone was unable to afford the drugs and became ill then their Doctor would give them the drugs to prevent them dying ?
You people are too used to others giving you shit.
Nobody has ever given me anything. Your understanding of healthcare finance is at a remedial level..
 

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The rich live/poor die

that's capitalism

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Nope. That's just America-style capitalism. It is that way because White pinheads organized "capitalism" so as to make the lives of the poor as brutish and short as possible for fear that an extended helping hand might eventually end up helping Those People. Moreover, in the dominant protestant ideology, the punishment for being born poor (read: bereft of virtue) is never harsh enough.

Thankfully, not all countries, and not all forms of capitalism, suffer this monstrous defect in the same way, and to the same extent.
 

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The human cost of insulin in America

Stories of Americans rationing insulin - and dying for it - have been making national headlines.

The most famous case, perhaps, was 26-year-old Alec Smith, who died in 2017 less than a month after he aged out of his mother's health insurance plan. Despite working full-time making more than minimum wage, he could not afford to buy new insurance or pay the $1,000 a month for insulin without it.

I cant get my head around this . Surely if someone was unable to afford the drugs and became ill then their Doctor would give them the drugs to prevent them dying ?
You people are too used to others giving you shit.
Nobody has ever given me anything. Your understanding of healthcare finance is at a remedial level..
Your precious NHS at work, Tommy.

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The rich live/poor die

that's capitalism

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Nope. That's just America-style capitalism. It is that way because White pinheads organized "capitalism" so as to make the lives of the poor as brutish and short as possible for fear that an extended helping hand might eventually end up helping Those People. Moreover, in the dominant protestant ideology, the punishment for being born poor (read: bereft of virtue) is never harsh enough.

Thankfully, not all countries, and not all forms of capitalism, suffer this monstrous defect in the same way, and to the same extent.
Got to have those poor folks around until the robots can do everything.
 

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