The Holocaust: Where Are All of the Bodies??

[PoliticalChic]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

You'd be a real threat if you had an education.

 

[guno]

PC is sick, despite her second statement, because of those who come up with, which she accepts: "Also, just for the record, Nazism is the German term for NATIONAL SOCIALISM which is exactly what FDR & Obama are all about."

An informed 9th grader would easily refute PC's silliness.

So...you're admitting that you're not even up to the caliber of a 9th grader?

I've always found you to be second rate, at best.

aren't you late for your job at the nail salon?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Not nearly enough bodies have been found to document the millions for whom the Nazis must answer. Where are those bodies?
So state some of those who deny that the Holocaust took place.
Before considering the argument of the Holocaust deniers, that not nearly enough bodies of victims have been found to validate the charges raised about the Holocaust.....let's go back to get a sense of the time.......



1. At the very least, Franklin Roosevelt's economic policies reflected his infatuation with Mussolini and with Hitler, with both of whom he enjoyed amiable relations.

In fact, his sending Americans into concentration camps, based on their race, opens up the question as to what other polices of theirs he also envied.



2. Nor should one see Nazism as totally separate and different from a number of other political practices....
Nazism is but one variant of totalitarian government....the totalitarian impulse in each nation is fed through the prism of that nation's history, people, culture.....



“Nazism was the product of German culture, grown out of a German context. The Holocaust could not have occurred in Italy, because Italians are not Germans. And in America, where hostility to big government is central to the national character, the case for statism must be made in terms of 'pragmatism' and decency.

In other words, our version of fascism must be nice and for your own good.


American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II.
After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ...."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223



Hitler, Stalin...Roosevelt.....the policies were similar....the extent to which they were carried out differed.


a. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48


b. In fact, Roosevelt did not envision entering the war against the Germans....not at first. Not until May 16, 1940, did Roosevelt address Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”



Roosevelt chose sides early....a question remains: why did he pick Stalin over Hitler?


It is more than interesting that Franklin Roosevelt had no problem associating himself and his nation with the far more homicidal monster, Joseph Stalin, having full knowledge of the millions he killed in the Ukrainian Famine, and the thousands he slaughtered in the Katyn Forest....but turned on the junior monster even before he knew of the atrocities of the 'Final Solution.'


Hitler declared war on the United States....."December 11, 1941, On this day, Adolf Hitler declares war on the United States, bringing America, which had been neutral, into the European conflict. "Germany declares war on the United States mdash History.com This Day in History mdash 12 11 1941


What if Japan hadn't forced Hitler's hand.......?

Wow, knew you were a partisan hack, but I didn't realize how much I was low-balling it.

Actually, I take that back. You're not a partisan hack, and apologies to actual partisan hacks. You're just a Holocaust denier and Nazi sympathizer.

You seem to be bereft of either a cogent argument or a cerebrum.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC is stumbling in desperation. Her persecution complex is validated by the correctly directed opposition here to her.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC is stumbling in desperation. Her persecution complex is validated by the correctly directed opposition here to her.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC is sick, despite her second statement, because of those who come up with, which she accepts: "Also, just for the record, Nazism is the German term for NATIONAL SOCIALISM which is exactly what FDR & Obama are all about."

An informed 9th grader would easily refute PC's silliness.

So...you're admitting that you're not even up to the caliber of a 9th grader?

I've always found you to be second rate, at best.

aren't you late for your job at the nail salon?

That's one good lookin' gal, eh.

Doing something you can't.......read.

No wonder you're jealous.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

Ohhhh......now I get it!


You pretend to ignore this line in the OP...
" So state some of those who deny that the Holocaust took place."



And gin up your make-believe rage, when actually what you are enraged about is this:
", FranklinRoosevelt's economic policies reflected his infatuation with Mussolini and with Hitler,with both of whom he enjoyed amiable relations.

In fact,his sending Americans into concentration camps, based on their race, opens up the question as to what other polices of theirs he also envied."



That's it,....isn't it.

How dare I reveal the truth about your former god....before you latched onto Obama.



Hey....the truth is the truth.
Deal with it.

 

[Sunni Man]

National Socialism was just FDR socialism lite. ...

 

[rightwinger]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

You'd be a real threat if you had an education.

I know it's the weekend and you need your dose of attention

But this is low even by your standards

 

[Penelope]

6 million has been the number long before Hitler got in.

What the heck does that mean?

How many Jews are said to of died in the Holocaust?

"...long before Hitler got in."????????

6 million for some reason is a magic no. before and after WWII

SIX MILLION JEWS IN THE NEWS BETWEEN 1915-1938 The Ugly Truth

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

You'd be a real threat if you had an education.

I know it's the weekend and you need your dose of attention

But this is low even by your standards

Actually...it will be far higher than what you know to date....I will educate you, further even than post #27.


As the Cajuns say, ''J'vous garantis.''

 

[rightwinger]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

You'd be a real threat if you had an education.

I know it's the weekend and you need your dose of attention

But this is low even by your standards

Actually...it will be far higher than what you know to date....I will educate you, further even than post #27.


As the Cajuns say, ''J'vous garantis.''

Pathetic really

Not just offensive to Liberals but to all Americans

 

[PoliticalChic]

6 million has been the number long before Hitler got in.

What the heck does that mean?

How many Jews are said to of died in the Holocaust?

"...long before Hitler got in."????????

6 million for some reason is a magic no. before and after WWII

SIX MILLION JEWS IN THE NEWS BETWEEN 1915-1938 The Ugly Truth

"The following figures from Lucy Dawidowicz show the annihilation of the Jewish population of Europe by (pre-war) country:[270]

Country	Estimated Pre-War Jewish population	Estimated killed	Percent killed
Poland	3,300,000	3,000,000	90
Baltic countries	253,000	228,000	90
Germany and Austria	240,000	210,000	90
Bohemia and Moravia	90,000	80,000	89
Slovakia	90,000	75,000	83
Greece	70,000	54,000	77
Netherlands	140,000	105,000	75
Hungary	650,000	450,000	70
Byelorussian SSR	375,000	245,000	65
Ukrainian SSR	1,500,000	900,000	60
Belgium	65,000	40,000	60
Yugoslavia	43,000	26,000	60
Romania	600,000	300,000	50
Norway	2,173	890	41
France	350,000	90,000	26
Bulgaria	64,000	14,000	22
Italy	40,000	8,000	20
Luxembourg	5,000	1,000	20
Russian SFSR	975,000	107,000	11
Denmark	8,000	52	<1
Total	8,861,800	5,933,900	67

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Since 1945, the most commonly cited figure for the total number of Jews killed has been six million. The Yad Vashem Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority in Jerusalem, writes that there is no precise figure for the number of Jews killed,[287] but has been able to find documentation of more than three million names of Jewish victims killed,[288] which it displays at its visitors center. The figure most commonly used is the six million attributed to Adolf Eichmann, a senior SS official.[289]

Early calculations range from about 4.2 to 4.5 million in The Final Solution(1953) by Gerald Reitlinger (arguing against higher Russian estimates),[290]and 5.1 million from Raul Hilberg, to 5.95 million from Jacob Lestschinsky.Yisrael Gutman and Robert Rozett in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaustestimate 5.59–5.86 million.[291] A study led by Wolfgang Benz of the Technical University of Berlin suggests 5.29–6.2 million.[292][293] Yad Vashem writes that the main sources for these statistics are comparisons of prewar and postwar censuses and population estimates, and Nazi documentation on deportations and murders.[292] Its Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names currently holds close to three million names of Holocaust victims, all accessible online. Yad Vashem continues its project of collecting names of Jewish victims from historical documents and individual memories.[294]

Hilberg's estimate of 5.1 million, in the third edition of The Destruction of the European Jews, includes over 800,000 who died from "ghettoization and general privation"; 1,400,000 killed in open-air shootings; and up to 2,900,000 who perished in camps. Hilberg estimates the death toll of Jews in Poland as up to 3,000,000.[295] Hilberg's numbers are generally considered to be a conservative estimate, as they typically include only those deaths for which records are available, avoiding statistical adjustment.[296]

Martin Gilbert arrived at a "minimum estimate" of over 5.75 million Jewish victims including 2 million gassed at Auschwitz.[297] Lucy S. Dawidowicz used pre-war census figures to estimate that 5.934 million Jews died (see table below).[298]"

The Holocaust - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sick thread ...even for PC

Reeks of desperation

You'd be a real threat if you had an education.

I know it's the weekend and you need your dose of attention

But this is low even by your standards

Actually...it will be far higher than what you know to date....I will educate you, further even than post #27.


As the Cajuns say, ''J'vous garantis.''

Pathetic really

Not just offensive to Liberals but to all Americans

Nah....only to the ignorant ideologues.

Raise your paw.

 

[MaryL]

How do you count bodies that have been cremated? America's shame of Japanese internment happened AFTER Japan attacked us, it certainly wasn't merited but it's important to note the context and the timeline. The rest of the OP's premise is just morning after cherry picking of facts to fit a crackpot theory.

 

[Penelope]

6 million has been the number long before Hitler got in.

What the heck does that mean?

How many Jews are said to of died in the Holocaust?

"...long before Hitler got in."????????

6 million for some reason is a magic no. before and after WWII

SIX MILLION JEWS IN THE NEWS BETWEEN 1915-1938 The Ugly Truth

"The following figures from Lucy Dawidowicz show the annihilation of the Jewish population of Europe by (pre-war) country:[270]

Country	Estimated Pre-War Jewish population	Estimated killed	Percent killed
Poland	3,300,000	3,000,000	90
Baltic countries	253,000	228,000	90
Germany and Austria	240,000	210,000	90
Bohemia and Moravia	90,000	80,000	89
Slovakia	90,000	75,000	83
Greece	70,000	54,000	77
Netherlands	140,000	105,000	75
Hungary	650,000	450,000	70
Byelorussian SSR	375,000	245,000	65
Ukrainian SSR	1,500,000	900,000	60
Belgium	65,000	40,000	60
Yugoslavia	43,000	26,000	60
Romania	600,000	300,000	50
Norway	2,173	890	41
France	350,000	90,000	26
Bulgaria	64,000	14,000	22
Italy	40,000	8,000	20
Luxembourg	5,000	1,000	20
Russian SFSR	975,000	107,000	11
Denmark	8,000	52	<1
Total	8,861,800	5,933,900	67

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Since 1945, the most commonly cited figure for the total number of Jews killed has been six million. The Yad Vashem Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority in Jerusalem, writes that there is no precise figure for the number of Jews killed,[287] but has been able to find documentation of more than three million names of Jewish victims killed,[288] which it displays at its visitors center. The figure most commonly used is the six million attributed to Adolf Eichmann, a senior SS official.[289]

Early calculations range from about 4.2 to 4.5 million in The Final Solution(1953) by Gerald Reitlinger (arguing against higher Russian estimates),[290]and 5.1 million from Raul Hilberg, to 5.95 million from Jacob Lestschinsky.Yisrael Gutman and Robert Rozett in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaustestimate 5.59–5.86 million.[291] A study led by Wolfgang Benz of the Technical University of Berlin suggests 5.29–6.2 million.[292][293] Yad Vashem writes that the main sources for these statistics are comparisons of prewar and postwar censuses and population estimates, and Nazi documentation on deportations and murders.[292] Its Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names currently holds close to three million names of Holocaust victims, all accessible online. Yad Vashem continues its project of collecting names of Jewish victims from historical documents and individual memories.[294]

Hilberg's estimate of 5.1 million, in the third edition of The Destruction of the European Jews, includes over 800,000 who died from "ghettoization and general privation"; 1,400,000 killed in open-air shootings; and up to 2,900,000 who perished in camps. Hilberg estimates the death toll of Jews in Poland as up to 3,000,000.[295] Hilberg's numbers are generally considered to be a conservative estimate, as they typically include only those deaths for which records are available, avoiding statistical adjustment.[296]

Martin Gilbert arrived at a "minimum estimate" of over 5.75 million Jewish victims including 2 million gassed at Auschwitz.[297] Lucy S. Dawidowicz used pre-war census figures to estimate that 5.934 million Jews died (see table below).[298]"

The Holocaust - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

did you watch the video, you can see that the magic no. of 6 mil was used when they were in Russia. Who knows the real no. of Jews who died in WWII??

 

[Penelope]

True, everything about WWII is about the Jews in Germany and the atomic bomb. So much more went on leading up to and during the war, and even after, but that is all blurred.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How do you count bodies that have been cremated? America's shame of Japanese internment happened AFTER Japan attacked us, it certainly wasn't merited but it's important to note the context and the timeline. The rest of the OP's premise is just morning after cherry picking of facts to fit a crackpot theory.

And, exactly, what theory would that be?

 

[PoliticalChic]

What the heck does that mean?

How many Jews are said to of died in the Holocaust?

"...long before Hitler got in."????????

6 million for some reason is a magic no. before and after WWII

SIX MILLION JEWS IN THE NEWS BETWEEN 1915-1938 The Ugly Truth

"The following figures from Lucy Dawidowicz show the annihilation of the Jewish population of Europe by (pre-war) country:[270]

Country	Estimated Pre-War Jewish population	Estimated killed	Percent killed
Poland	3,300,000	3,000,000	90
Baltic countries	253,000	228,000	90
Germany and Austria	240,000	210,000	90
Bohemia and Moravia	90,000	80,000	89
Slovakia	90,000	75,000	83
Greece	70,000	54,000	77
Netherlands	140,000	105,000	75
Hungary	650,000	450,000	70
Byelorussian SSR	375,000	245,000	65
Ukrainian SSR	1,500,000	900,000	60
Belgium	65,000	40,000	60
Yugoslavia	43,000	26,000	60
Romania	600,000	300,000	50
Norway	2,173	890	41
France	350,000	90,000	26
Bulgaria	64,000	14,000	22
Italy	40,000	8,000	20
Luxembourg	5,000	1,000	20
Russian SFSR	975,000	107,000	11
Denmark	8,000	52	<1
Total	8,861,800	5,933,900	67

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Since 1945, the most commonly cited figure for the total number of Jews killed has been six million. The Yad Vashem Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority in Jerusalem, writes that there is no precise figure for the number of Jews killed,[287] but has been able to find documentation of more than three million names of Jewish victims killed,[288] which it displays at its visitors center. The figure most commonly used is the six million attributed to Adolf Eichmann, a senior SS official.[289]

Early calculations range from about 4.2 to 4.5 million in The Final Solution(1953) by Gerald Reitlinger (arguing against higher Russian estimates),[290]and 5.1 million from Raul Hilberg, to 5.95 million from Jacob Lestschinsky.Yisrael Gutman and Robert Rozett in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaustestimate 5.59–5.86 million.[291] A study led by Wolfgang Benz of the Technical University of Berlin suggests 5.29–6.2 million.[292][293] Yad Vashem writes that the main sources for these statistics are comparisons of prewar and postwar censuses and population estimates, and Nazi documentation on deportations and murders.[292] Its Central Database of Shoah Victims' Names currently holds close to three million names of Holocaust victims, all accessible online. Yad Vashem continues its project of collecting names of Jewish victims from historical documents and individual memories.[294]

Hilberg's estimate of 5.1 million, in the third edition of The Destruction of the European Jews, includes over 800,000 who died from "ghettoization and general privation"; 1,400,000 killed in open-air shootings; and up to 2,900,000 who perished in camps. Hilberg estimates the death toll of Jews in Poland as up to 3,000,000.[295] Hilberg's numbers are generally considered to be a conservative estimate, as they typically include only those deaths for which records are available, avoiding statistical adjustment.[296]

Martin Gilbert arrived at a "minimum estimate" of over 5.75 million Jewish victims including 2 million gassed at Auschwitz.[297] Lucy S. Dawidowicz used pre-war census figures to estimate that 5.934 million Jews died (see table below).[298]"

The Holocaust - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

did you watch the video, you can see that the magic no. of 6 mil was used when they were in Russia. Who knows the real no. of Jews who died in WWII??

1. Are you doubting that the Jews were the subject of the Nazi 'Final Solution"?


2. Would you find it more.....copacetic if the number were 3 million?

Is there any way you can defend your position?

 

[ricechickie]

Is politicalchic really asking this question?