The hockey stick revisited.

[pknopp]

Religion doesn't require proof.

Nor do I expect you to believe it just because a paper tells you to.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's the net that'll get you.

Of course. Solar panels destroy energy.

 

[ding]

Of course. Solar panels destroy energy.

No, they convert solar radiation into electricity

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, they convert solar radiation into electricity

Oh. You mean electricity destroys energy.

 

[ding]

Oh. You mean electricity destroys energy.

No. It just reduces the solar radiation striking the surface of the planet, but you knew that already.

Here's a great paper on it. Knock yourself out.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No. It just reduces the solar radiation striking the surface of the planet, but you knew that already.

Here's a great paper on it. Knock yourself out.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation

Converting some to electricity doesn't reduce the net.
Especially when the albedo is so much lower.

 

[ding]

Converting some to electricity doesn't reduce the net.
Especially when the albedo is so much lower.

Read the paper.

Here's another one you won't read.

Ground-mounted photovoltaic solar parks promote land surface cool islands in arid ecosystems

Despite the growth rates of photovoltaic solar parks, their potential to alter land surface temperature remains unclear. Yet, resolving temperature im…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Read the paper.

Here's another one you won't read.

Ground-mounted photovoltaic solar parks promote land surface cool islands in arid ecosystems

Despite the growth rates of photovoltaic solar parks, their potential to alter land surface temperature remains unclear. Yet, resolving temperature im…

www.sciencedirect.com

If you posted a paper that claimed moving energy from the solar panel to the point of consumption somehow reduces the net, I'm going to have to point and laugh.

Especially if they ignore the lower albedo of the panel.

 

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If you posted a paper that claimed moving energy from the solar panel to the point of consumption somehow reduces the net, I'm going to have to point and laugh.

Especially if they ignore the lower albedo of the panel.

You'd have to read the papers to know what they did.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You'd have to read the papers to know what they did.

I tried to dumb down the math enough for you, but you closed your eyes, put your hands over your ears and shouted la-la-la-la.

Did you ever understand conservation of energy?
Is your current confusion due to a recent head injury?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You'd have to read the papers to know what they did.

Specifically, there is growing consensus to date that air temperature increases within solar parks, for example, up to 3 - 4 °C in a hot semi-arid climate zone and 2 - 5 °C in a cold desert climate zone

DURR

 

[ding]

I tried to dumb down the math enough for you, but you closed your eyes, put your hands over your ears and shouted la-la-la-la.

Did you ever understand conservation of energy?
Is your current confusion due to a recent head injury?

You should try reading the paper instead.

 

[ding]

Specifically, there is growing consensus to date that air temperature increases within solar parks, for example, up to 3 - 4 °C in a hot semi-arid climate zone and 2 - 5 °C in a cold desert climate zone

DURR

You should read the whole thing, dummy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You should read the whole thing, dummy.

You mean reading that the ground is cooler but the air is hotter wasn't enough?

You still confused about conservation of energy?

 

[ding]

You mean reading that the ground is cooler but the air is hotter wasn't enough?

You still confused about conservation of energy?

You would understand it if you read the papers. Is there an echo in here

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You would understand it if you read the papers. Is there an echo in here

Tell me again how moving energy from a solar panel to my television cools the planet.

Don't forget net.

 

[ding]

Tell me again how moving energy from a solar panel to my television cools the planet.

Don't forget net.

Don't forget to read the papers.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283975603_Impact_of_solar_panels_on_global_climate

Ground-mounted photovoltaic solar parks promote land surface cool islands in arid ecosystems

Despite the growth rates of photovoltaic solar parks, their potential to alter land surface temperature remains unclear. Yet, resolving temperature im…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don't forget to read the papers.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283975603_Impact_of_solar_panels_on_global_climate

Ground-mounted photovoltaic solar parks promote land surface cool islands in arid ecosystems

Despite the growth rates of photovoltaic solar parks, their potential to alter land surface temperature remains unclear. Yet, resolving temperature im…

www.sciencedirect.com

Land surface temperature.

Now, about my TV?

 

[ding]

View attachment 605135

Land surface temperature.

Now, about my TV?

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[skookerasbil]

Car manufacturers are acting on the knowledge that fossil fuels are harmful to the planet and will soon be phased out.

Utility companies are converting to renewable energy technology far, far faster than any government regulation is requiring them. If you disagree, show me the regulation and perhaps you could add some commentary from utility executives saying they are only changing due to the regs.

For god's sake don't hold your breath on that one. Had you heard that the hum of wind turbines causes cancer?


When you tell us they are all wrong and then provide what you claim to be the correct answer, you are most certainly claiming to be smarter than them. And you'll have to show me some Dunning-Kruger work that says my calling you dumb for making statement after statement after statement that a 7th grader would know was nonsense qualifies me as a DK sufferer.

Lol......

"Car manufacturers are acting on the knowledge that fossil fuels are harmful to the planet and will soon be phased out."

Silly.....sOn....you are not a serious person. Nobody thinks that....the logic child-like.

Car manufacturers don't give a shit about fossil fuels. They are responding to government regulations on gas mileage ripping their balls off. You are one simple fcuk!

Don't hold you breath...like I've said....you and I will be pushing up daisies for a long, long time before conventional vehicles come anywhere near going away. Car guys will be doing epic smokey burnouts in cars with big ass V8's within throwing stones distance from our graves.

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