The Great Divide

[initforme]

I greatly fear rolling back too many regulations on corporations, as they cannot be trusted just like the left. I also do not support fellow evangelical Christian's who have taken the Bible and twisted it to fit their narrative. To hear people talk of how bad SS and Medicare are is also anti Christian and anti american. The way I see it good hard working Americans who toil endlessly so their corporate masters can make big time money are catching it from both sides.

 

[alang1216]

The Tsunami known as Leftism is based on destroying all of the values and traditions that built Western Civilization.

In every way the plans and agenda of the Left has proven to be a failure.


Now....destroy the family????

"The social stability provided by family and community transforms wealth into income.

The family bonus is an incredible financial force multiplier. The progressive solution of running everyone through college while offering them and everyone else government freebies has failed miserably.

A recent study by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis noted that, “the average Black bachelor’s degree family with a head born between 1970 and 1989 had no more wealth than the average Black nongraduate family with a head born in the same decade”. Instead, “Whites are the only racial or ethnic group born in the 1980s for whom a bachelor’s degree provides a family with a reliable wealth advantage over comparable nongraduate families—albeit one that is much smaller than those enjoyed by earlier cohorts of college graduates.” Income doesn’t necessarily mean wealth."

It’s the Family, Stupid | Frontpage Mag

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic

www.frontpagemag.com

Me and my friends and most of my neighbors are liberals who treasure our families. We are generally well-educated, middle-class professionals, a prime demographic of the GOP but we don't share the social values of the GOP and are embarrassed by this administration and their GOP lapdogs. My neighborhood is filled with 'Dump Trump' lawn signs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Here's the choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

Here's the choice: forward or backward. Spoiler alert, time flows in only one direction.

Trump might win again but that is merely the pendulum swinging. The overall path of America will not change. Sorry for you, happy for the rest of us.

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.


A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

 

[georgephillip]

You really don't understand it at all.


Here's the reason the establishment of both parties is anti-Trump: he is a threat to their wealth.

Then why is Wall Street richer today than when Don the Con and his Foreclosure King moved to DC?

Dirty Details Emerge as to Why Mnuchin Is Fighting Congress Over Releasing the Names of Recipients of PPP Loans

"Taxpayers’ money is being used to make the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans.

"Thus, the public has every right to know the names of the recipients of those loans.

"Despite originally promising transparency, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is now stonewalling Congress on releasing a list of the recipients..."

"The funds were to be predominantly used to keep workers employed and allow the businesses to survive the coronavirus shutdowns.

"Instead, our search of filings at the Securities and Exchange Commission reveals that dozens of debt zombie companies that trade on Nasdaq got the loans.

"Dozens of publicly-traded companies with large credit lines from banks got the loans.

"Dozens of companies with a lot more than 500 employees got the loans.

"It’s beginning to look like tens of billions of dollars in PPP loans were simply funneled out the door rapidly with little oversight into who was getting the loans."

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP is spot-on!

This country will last, at best, until the next century.

By then, this nation will have collapsed.

No one need be shocked.

Any perspicacious observer knows that a nation can exist only if all the people in that country share a common culture of what is right and what is wrong.

BLM's recent Insurrection and those kneeling politicians have shown us that we lack that common culture and that things will only get worse as a certain ethnicity continues to shrink in numbers.

Agree......sadly.

You agree? Isn't it people like you TheParser is referring to?

Doesn't matter since this country has NEVER shared a common culture of what is right and what is wrong. We fought a Civil War over that very issue.

My side won that war....your side lost, but continues to fight for the things that caused it, primarily judging people by the color of their skin.

Here's your remedial:

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

2. It is the party of Jefferson Davis, of Nathan Bedford Forrest and the Knights of the KKK, Planned Parenthood, concentration camps for American citizens, and restrictions on free speech.

3. It is the party of Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree, and of James Hodgkinson, and of Communist Bernie Sanders, of pretend genders.

4. The Democrat Party is the oldest racist organization in America, the trail of tears, the author of Jim Crow and the bigotry of low expectations, filibustered against women getting the vote and killed every anti-lynching bill to get to Congress

5. The Democrat Party is the number one funder of the Islamic Revolution in Tehran….to the tune of $100 billion to the Ayatollahs….and gave Hezbollah the go-ahead to sell cocaine in America.

6. It is the party of anti-Semitism and Louis Farrakhan, and of the first Cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of Congress.

7. It is the party that admits its future depends on flooding the country with illegal aliens, and telling them to vote.

8. It is the party that couldn't suck up to the Castro Brothers enough, and treats the Bill of Rights like a Chinese menu..

9. The Democrats got us into the Civil War…Jefferson Davis .... Woodrow Wilson, WWI….FDR, WWII……Truman, Korean War….VietNam, JFK and LBJ…..yet they want to weaken our military.

10. The Democrats are the party that looks at the mayhem their gun laws have produced in Chicago, ……and this is their model for the nation.

11. I should mention that the Democrat Party was used as a model by Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party….another ‘feather’ in the party’s cap?

12. The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism.

13. It's the party of felons over law-abiding actual citizens

14. No shared values, not an American party…they oppose free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one’s religion.

Democrats: Bull Connor, George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Al Gore, Sr., Bill Clinton….all racists, all Democrats.




You'll never learn.

Bet your teachers said that, too.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Tsunami known as Leftism is based on destroying all of the values and traditions that built Western Civilization.

In every way the plans and agenda of the Left has proven to be a failure.


Now....destroy the family????

"The social stability provided by family and community transforms wealth into income.

The family bonus is an incredible financial force multiplier. The progressive solution of running everyone through college while offering them and everyone else government freebies has failed miserably.

A recent study by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis noted that, “the average Black bachelor’s degree family with a head born between 1970 and 1989 had no more wealth than the average Black nongraduate family with a head born in the same decade”. Instead, “Whites are the only racial or ethnic group born in the 1980s for whom a bachelor’s degree provides a family with a reliable wealth advantage over comparable nongraduate families—albeit one that is much smaller than those enjoyed by earlier cohorts of college graduates.” Income doesn’t necessarily mean wealth."

It’s the Family, Stupid | Frontpage Mag

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic

www.frontpagemag.com

Me and my friends and most of my neighbors are liberals who treasure our families. We are generally well-educated, middle-class professionals, a prime demographic of the GOP but we don't share the social values of the GOP and are embarrassed by this administration and their GOP lapdogs. My neighborhood is filled with 'Dump Trump' lawn signs.

"Me and my friends ..."

Should be "my friends and I....."


So....you're a government school grad, huh?

 

[alang1216]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Here's the choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

Here's the choice: forward or backward. Spoiler alert, time flows in only one direction.

Trump might win again but that is merely the pendulum swinging. The overall path of America will not change. Sorry for you, happy for the rest of us.

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.


A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

"...most of my neighbors are liberals who treasure our families."

That may be now.....but as soon as your elites tell you to, you'll turn on them like the snakes you Liberals are.


An example? Sure.

Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

There are only two parties, two choices.

Which one do you vote for?

Seems I'm right again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

There are only two parties, two choices.

Which one do you vote for?

Seems I'm right again.

"If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind. "

I admitted in the OP that I am Manichean in outlook......I see you didn't bother to look it up.

So....you're a government school grad, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

You really don't understand it at all.


Here's the reason the establishment of both parties is anti-Trump: he is a threat to their wealth.

Then why is Wall Street richer today than when Don the Con and his Foreclosure King moved to DC?

Dirty Details Emerge as to Why Mnuchin Is Fighting Congress Over Releasing the Names of Recipients of PPP Loans

"Taxpayers’ money is being used to make the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans.

"Thus, the public has every right to know the names of the recipients of those loans.

"Despite originally promising transparency, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin is now stonewalling Congress on releasing a list of the recipients..."

"The funds were to be predominantly used to keep workers employed and allow the businesses to survive the coronavirus shutdowns.

"Instead, our search of filings at the Securities and Exchange Commission reveals that dozens of debt zombie companies that trade on Nasdaq got the loans.

"Dozens of publicly-traded companies with large credit lines from banks got the loans.

"Dozens of companies with a lot more than 500 employees got the loans.

"It’s beginning to look like tens of billions of dollars in PPP loans were simply funneled out the door rapidly with little oversight into who was getting the loans."

You miss the point again.

You question should be 'why are so many politicians millionaires?

 

[alang1216]

Here's your remedial:

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

Still living in the past?

Republicans once sent in troops to support Black rights, now they send in troops to remove them (from Lafayette Square) when those Blacks try to exercise their rights.

 

[alang1216]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

There are only two parties, two choices.

Which one do you vote for?

Seems I'm right again.

"If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind. "

I admitted in the OP that I am Manichean in outlook......I see you didn't bother to look it up.

So....you're a government school grad, huh?

Got it, you're color blind because you are Manichean. So?

 

[alang1216]

"Me and my friends ..."

Should be "my friends and I....."


So....you're a government school grad, huh?

So you couldn't understand what I wrote?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's your remedial:

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

Still living in the past?

Republicans once sent in troops to support Black rights, now they send in troops to remove them (from Lafayette Square) when those Blacks try to exercise their rights.

In a constellation of stupid and inane posts of yours, this one ranks very near the top of the list.


When you post something like this nonsense it falls under this rubric:
"The 13th chime of a clock, not only does it make no sense, but it calls into question the validity of the 12 chimes that preceded it."



I really need more intelligent opposition.

Really.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

There are only two parties, two choices.

Which one do you vote for?

Seems I'm right again.

"If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind. "

I admitted in the OP that I am Manichean in outlook......I see you didn't bother to look it up.

So....you're a government school grad, huh?

Got it, you're color blind because you are Manichean. So?

What does the term mean?


Take your time.

 

[alang1216]

Here, one of the defining characteristics of conservatives vs Liberals:

Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

A pity you never learned this.....but, there are so very many things you've never learned.

It's always amazed me that you can lump all conservatives and liberals into single groupings that share all the characteristics you list. If I have learned anything in my life it is that people can't be stereotyped with any accuracy.

If you see the world as black and white you're obviously color blind.

There are only two parties, two choices.

Which one do you vote for?

Seems I'm right again.

I just voted for the independent candidate, not the Dem. Wrong again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Me and my friends ..."

Should be "my friends and I....."


So....you're a government school grad, huh?

So you couldn't understand what I wrote?

I'm a stickler for proper English, and intelligent discourse.

You, not so much.

 

[alang1216]

Here's your remedial:

1. The Democrats are, and have always been, the party of slavery, segregation, and second-class citizenship, the party that stood in schoolhouse doors to block black school children….until Republicans sent in the 101st airborne

Still living in the past?

Republicans once sent in troops to support Black rights, now they send in troops to remove them (from Lafayette Square) when those Blacks try to exercise their rights.

In a constellation of stupid and inane posts of yours, this one ranks very near the top of the list.


When you post something like this nonsense it falls under this rubric:
"The 13th chime of a clock, not only does it make no sense, but it calls into question the validity of the 12 chimes that preceded it."



I really need more intelligent opposition.

Really.

I notice that you insult my post but don't dispute it.

 

[initforme]

"there are two parties which one do you vote for".....answer? NONE. Neither is worth my vote. Both are full of untrustworthy people.