The Great Divide

[PoliticalChic]

November will be here soon enough.

November can't get here soon enough. We need to settle this "great divide" for another 4-years, and setup the USSC for a generation or two.

Our great hope, a conservative Supreme Court, just proved they aren't either conservative nor the hope for America.

If their ruling was technically correct I'm okay with it. They did not give the DACA kids a pass.
Trump just needs to follow the USSC roadmap, then the dems will be forced into real immigration reform, or the DACA kids go.

I'm not a big fan of the Supreme Court, and this case is an example of my reasoning.

They have no right to legislate, which is what they did in this case.
The Congress had to write this category into the law......not the Supreme Court.

You are 100% correct, but it's not "they" its Roberts, the AH that saved Obamacare and fucked-up our healthcare with $10,000 deductibles.
The USSC will need to rule on the democrats trying to overturn all of Trump's EOs.
Hopefully the USSC will keep some of them in-place using the same administrative roadblocks.

Gorsuch sold us out this time.....he re-wrote the legislation from the belt.


The next question is where the Constitution, the law of the land, the only set of laws that the people of this nation have agreed to be governed by, states that the Supreme Court has power over the executive or the legislative branches?

It says no such thing.

The authority for same does not exist.



The glaring, and momentous, mistake on the part of the Founders, was the Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts) Branch of the government.
...it should be noted that the Constitution does not provide for what is called ‘judicial review,’ nor is the concept found in English law.

The judicial decisions of the Supreme Court should be treated the same way Red and Green lights are treated in Rome....as merely a suggestion.

 

[georgephillip]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

It is being destroyed by a small cadre of venal, rapacious, corporate oligarchs like the one currently living in the White House:

"The mainstream media deflects attention from where power resides: corporations, not with the leaders of the free world.

"The arguments posed by Chris Hedges, that the U.S. is neither a democracy nor a republic but a totalitarian state that can now assassinate its citizens at will, are pertinent ones. Scary ones.

"Especially as consecutive governments seem equally as impotent to invoke any real change for the States.

"If the media won’t stand up to the marionettes who pull the strings of the conglomerates causing deep, indelible polarisation in the world abound; then so we must act. Together."

Chris Hedges: U.S. citizens are living in an inverted totalitarian country

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

It is being destroyed by a small cadre of venal, rapacious, corporate oligarchs like the one currently living in the White House:

"The mainstream media deflects attention from where power resides: corporations, not with the leaders of the free world.

"The arguments posed by Chris Hedges, that the U.S. is neither a democracy nor a republic but a totalitarian state that can now assassinate its citizens at will, are pertinent ones. Scary ones.

"Especially as consecutive governments seem equally as impotent to invoke any real change for the States.

"If the media won’t stand up to the marionettes who pull the strings of the conglomerates causing deep, indelible polarisation in the world abound; then so we must act. Together."

Chris Hedges: U.S. citizens are living in an inverted totalitarian country

You've got it backwards......he's the antedote.

That's the reason the Obama Deep State is trying so hard.

 

[Chuz Life]

Courage is the second rarest of virtues.....



....after gratitude.

I don't do a lot of things that require courage. . . But your comment leads me to an observation about myself. Sometimes, I can get pissed enough that I don't even need to think about being courageous in any given situation. I'm thinking that there is a pissed off silent majority in this country. The question is how pissed are we really and where is our final breaking point?

 

[alang1216]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Au contraire, I believe in the end you will have to get past us, a less-than-likely event.

 

[kyzr]

Courage is the second rarest of virtues.....



....after gratitude.

I don't do a lot of things that require courage. . . But your comment leads me to an observation about myself. Sometimes, I can get pissed enough that I don't even need to think about being courageous in any given situation. I'm thinking that there is a pissed off silent majority in this country. The question is how pissed are we really and where is our final breaking point?

We found that point in 2016....

 

[georgephillip]

You've got it backwards......he's the antedote.

That's the reason the Obama Deep State is trying so hard.

Trump's the antidote to crony-capitalism, right?

Trump's 2,000 Conflicts of Interest (and Counting) - CREW

"Presented with the unprecedented conflicts of interest posed by President Trump’s refusal to divest his business interests, Republican members of Congress have refused to hold him accountable.

"Rather, they seem to have embraced the arrangement by attending and hosting events and making appearances there, giving Trump’s clientele the chance to mingle with powerful people.

"At least 90 individual members of Congress have visited Trump properties 188 times. Senator Lindsey Graham’s twelve visits to Trump properties make him the most frequent visitor.

"Most recently, Graham visited the Trump National Golf Club in the D.C. suburbs, where he golfed with Senators Rand Paul (R-KY), David Perdue, (R-GA), and the president himself.

"Graham is followed by Rand Paul (10), Kevin McCarthy (10), Mark Meadows (8), and Lee Zeldin (6) for most frequent visits."

Don the Con is the crony capitalist who cut out the middleman; his administration will go down as the most corrupt in US History.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Courage is the second rarest of virtues.....



....after gratitude.

I don't do a lot of things that require courage. . . But your comment leads me to an observation about myself. Sometimes, I can get pissed enough that I don't even need to think about being courageous in any given situation. I'm thinking that there is a pissed off silent majority in this country. The question is how pissed are we really and where is our final breaking point?

As I am sure you know, we can only judge others in comparison with ourselves....

....and so I assume, as well, that many recognize the benefit of electing a Trump over the lawless Leftists on display in our streets today.

The Wuhan shutdown, and the riots, are planned to help defeat Trump, and the threat is there that if you elect Trump, we'll burn down your cities.

We'll see about that courage in Americans.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Here's the choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Au contraire, I believe in the end you will have to get past us, a less-than-likely event.

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I…
1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’ 2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,” 3) Supreme Judge of the world, and 4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

It's going to be an interesting November.....and beyond.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You've got it backwards......he's the antedote.

That's the reason the Obama Deep State is trying so hard.

Trump's the antidote to crony-capitalism, right?

Trump's 2,000 Conflicts of Interest (and Counting) - CREW

"Presented with the unprecedented conflicts of interest posed by President Trump’s refusal to divest his business interests, Republican members of Congress have refused to hold him accountable.

"Rather, they seem to have embraced the arrangement by attending and hosting events and making appearances there, giving Trump’s clientele the chance to mingle with powerful people.

"At least 90 individual members of Congress have visited Trump properties 188 times. Senator Lindsey Graham’s twelve visits to Trump properties make him the most frequent visitor.

"Most recently, Graham visited the Trump National Golf Club in the D.C. suburbs, where he golfed with Senators Rand Paul (R-KY), David Perdue, (R-GA), and the president himself.

"Graham is followed by Rand Paul (10), Kevin McCarthy (10), Mark Meadows (8), and Lee Zeldin (6) for most frequent visits."

Don the Con is the crony capitalist who cut out the middleman; his administration will go down as the most corrupt in US History.

You really don't understand it at all.


Here's the reason the establishment of both parties is anti-Trump: he is a threat to their wealth.



"Trump Attack on Regulation
Starts To Win Admiration
Both At Home and Abroad"
Trump Attack on Regulation Starts To Win Admiration Both At Home and Abroad - The New York Sun



Most important to the tyrants...er, Congressmen....is that by producing regulations that stymie businesses....said businesses have to bribe....er, lobby....the Representative to put in loopholes.



Ending regulation is an existential danger to their sinecures: they go to Washington to do good, and end up doing well.


Every notice how many Congressmen leave government far richer than when they went in?






====================================================================



. the establishment GOP, never-Trumpers and the like see Trump as a detriment to their profits/wealth, and here is the explanation:
"Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal"
Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal

Most regulations are, in terms of what they are alleged to do, are actually there to be bribed away by the industries that they inhibit.
The pols write them, the corporations pay lobbyists to bribe the pols to insert loopholes....

....hence poor men come to Washington to do good, and leave as millionaires, having made good.

Trump is a threat to their sinecures.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





And, from the NYSun....perhaps the worst news for the Left:
"Trump Attack on Regulation
Starts To Win Admiration
Both At Home and Abroad"
Trump Attack on Regulation Starts To Win Admiration Both At Home and Abroad - The New York Sun


5. "The Economist, in a piecepublished last month, reported, “the impact of the Trump administration has been dramatic. The flow of new rules is suddenly a dribble. Since Mr Trump was inaugurated the number of regulatory restrictions has grown at about two-fifths of the usual speed.”

6. ....not generally a Trump cheerleader, praised the administration’s approach to financial deregulation as “thoughtful...detailed and rigorous.” It reported, “the new approach in Washington does seem to have boosted business confidence.”



7. Mr. Trump is focusing on a real problem. ... the growth of federal red tape with a thought experiment explaining the difficulty of even reading, let alone complying with, the government imposed rules.

8. “The US Code of Federal Regulations — the annually published set of books containing all federal regulations currently in effect — contained 35.4 million words in 1970. A person could read the entire code in just a few days short of a year, assuming he or she read 250 words per minute, 40 hours per week, 50 weeks per year,” ...

9. “By 2016, there were 104.6 million words of federal regulation on the books, about 195 percent growth over 1970, with a corresponding increase in reading time of almost two years. “

10. BM has been running full-page newspaper ads boasting that its Watson artificial intelligence capability can help compliance officers “keep up with 20,000 new or modified regulations a year and 200 revisions a day.”....“humans alone are not going to be able to meet these challenges. "

 

[TheParser]

The OP is spot-on!

This country will last, at best, until the next century.

By then, this nation will have collapsed.

No one need be shocked.

Any perspicacious observer knows that a nation can exist only if all the people in that country share a common culture of what is right and what is wrong.

BLM's recent Insurrection and those kneeling politicians have shown us that we lack that common culture and that things will only get worse as a certain ethnicity continues to shrink in numbers.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Au contraire, I believe in the end you will have to get past us, a less-than-likely event.

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I…
1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’ 2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,” 3) Supreme Judge of the world, and 4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

It's going to be an interesting November.....and beyond.

One way or another.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP is spot-on!

This country will last, at best, until the next century.

By then, this nation will have collapsed.

No one need be shocked.

Any perspicacious observer knows that a nation can exist only if all the people in that country share a common culture of what is right and what is wrong.

BLM's recent Insurrection and those kneeling politicians have shown us that we lack that common culture and that things will only get worse as a certain ethnicity continues to shrink in numbers.

Agree......sadly.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Au contraire, I believe in the end you will have to get past us, a less-than-likely event.

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I…
1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’ 2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,” 3) Supreme Judge of the world, and 4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

It's going to be an interesting November.....and beyond.

One way or another.

I am a card-carrying pessimist.

I'm going with TS Eliot.....
This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.





(But....I hope you're right.)

 

[alang1216]

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Au contraire, I believe in the end you will have to get past us, a less-than-likely event.

I think the operative word is 'past' as in 'you are in the past'. If you look at the big picture over the last 100 years you'll see how much the thinking of Americans has changed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Tsunami known as Leftism is based on destroying all of the values and traditions that built Western Civilization.

In every way the plans and agenda of the Left has proven to be a failure.


Now....destroy the family????

"The social stability provided by family and community transforms wealth into income.

The family bonus is an incredible financial force multiplier. The progressive solution of running everyone through college while offering them and everyone else government freebies has failed miserably.

A recent study by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis noted that, “the average Black bachelor’s degree family with a head born between 1970 and 1989 had no more wealth than the average Black nongraduate family with a head born in the same decade”. Instead, “Whites are the only racial or ethnic group born in the 1980s for whom a bachelor’s degree provides a family with a reliable wealth advantage over comparable nongraduate families—albeit one that is much smaller than those enjoyed by earlier cohorts of college graduates.” Income doesn’t necessarily mean wealth."

It’s the Family, Stupid | Frontpage Mag

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic

www.frontpagemag.com

 

[alang1216]

We are basking in the afterglow of a once great nation....it is being destroyed by the Left.
Here's the proof:

1.It is pointless to debate the conflicting elements of the Left versus the Right because the shock troops of the Left, the government school grads are incapable of such an intellectual endeavor. I guarantee that beyond ‘is not,’ or ‘sez you’ or vulgarity, they cannot defend or even explain what they are supporting.

They don’t read books, they don’t think, and they are fearful of ever….EVER…questioning, much less confronting, their elites.

Succinctly put, we can no longer look to shared American values with a party opposes free speech, the second amendment, and the free practice of one's religion.



Manichean as I am, I see no grounds for compromise. Think of this cartoon:

View attachment 351788





2. Can we abide with a regime that only allows words that they endorse? That no longer views the Constitution as the instruction manual for America and Americans? Insists that we no longer live by significant elements of the religion that was instrumental in founding this nation?

No, I can’t either.



3. If there is one single example that proves that there is no way for Left and Right to coexist, it is their demand that the concept of family be jettisoned in favor of government.

“Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family'

'The time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it'

For example, the total elimination of "the family."

"We deserve better than the family. And the time of corona is an excellent time to practice abolishing it," wrote radical-feminist activist Sophie Lewis on the website open Democracy”
Leftist: Let's use coronavirus to eliminate 'the family' - WND



America may have a few decades, possibly a few generations, but they own the schools and the media, and they are the poison pills for society.

Whether you like it or not the times they are a changin' and you are not helping one bit. You and all those living in the past just need to get out of the way.

Here's the choice:

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

Here's the choice: forward or backward. Spoiler alert, time flows in only one direction.

Trump might win again but that is merely the pendulum swinging. The overall path of America will not change. Sorry for you, happy for the rest of us.

 

[alang1216]

The OP is spot-on!

This country will last, at best, until the next century.

By then, this nation will have collapsed.

No one need be shocked.

Any perspicacious observer knows that a nation can exist only if all the people in that country share a common culture of what is right and what is wrong.

BLM's recent Insurrection and those kneeling politicians have shown us that we lack that common culture and that things will only get worse as a certain ethnicity continues to shrink in numbers.

Agree......sadly.

You agree? Isn't it people like you TheParser is referring to?

Doesn't matter since this country has NEVER shared a common culture of what is right and what is wrong. We fought a Civil War over that very issue.