The GOP Dog Caught The Car....Again. This Time It's Border Protection.

[Oddball]

They just took what is arguably a winning issue for them, and turned it into a winning issue for Biden.

Oh yeah....Take a big, deeeeep huff of that hopium, Corky.

 

[Lesh]

Yup. They chased Roe for decades (mostly as a wedge issue) and won.

They dare not mention it now. It had turned from a positive to a negative for them.

They were counting on using immigration as their new wedge issue but a bunch of GOP Senators thought they were serious and actually went ahead and crafted a bill to deal with it.

They simply can’t afford to lose this wedge issue because with the economy improving they’d have nothing to run on

Yeah.

Cynical and dishonest but that’s the GOP folks

 

[Clipper]

Why is Trump (and by extension the entire Republican Party) against fixing the border problem?

Because it’s all he has to run on.

Fix this and he’s got nothing.

He lost abortion by getting Roe over turned… and actually turned that into a negative because of the opposition to that.

Without the border problem Trump has nothing

He can whine. He can always whine.

 

[Oldestyle]

Thought you wanted to do something about it or is this really just a gift to Putin? Tucker brought the good news to Moscow about how the Republicans stabbed democracy in the back for love of Vlad! I guess border chaos isn’t really as big a threat to us as MAGA would have us believe, rather an opportunity to amass political capital on the backs of people on both sides of the border.

The border "chaos" is about to bankrupt Democrat run "Sanctuary Cities", Konradv! That's the threat that you on the left have created. That's a threat that Joe Biden could literally fix tomorrow if he wanted to. So my question to you is a simple one! How many illegals are enough for you progressives? Are you willing to destroy the country over this?

 

[Lesh]

The border "chaos" is about to bankrupt Democrat run "Sanctuary Cities", Konradv! That's the threat that you on the left have created. That's a threat that Joe Biden could literally fix tomorrow if he wanted to. So my question to you is a simple one! How many illegals are enough for you progressives? Are you willing to destroy the country over this?

Pass this bill and he CAN do what you claim to want.
As of now the law doesn’t allow that

 

[ThisIsMe]

Leave it to Catherine Rumpell with the Washington Post to keep it real regarding the current border protection bill. --

Welp, the dog caught the car again. After months — decades? — of running on tightening the border, House Republicans are suddenly paralyzed when offered the chance to do so.

A hard-won, bipartisan Senate deal dropped Sunday evening, with tons of items on conservatives’ border-policy bucket list, including many that former president Donald Trump had begged for. These include:

• beefing up border security as a condition for giving any more aid to Ukraine (check!)
• a tougher and faster asylum-processing system so that those who don’t meet asylum criteria cannot stay and work for years while their cases crawl through the courts (check!)
• hiring more personnel for Customs and Border Protection as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (1,500 and 1,200, respectively — so, check, check!)
• huge investments in fentanyl detection technologies and other anti-trafficking enforcement (check!)
• reviving something like Title 42 restrictions, wherein the president can “shut down” most of the asylum system (though this version doesn’t require a public health pretext and has more severe consequences for border-crossers — so, check-plus, perhaps).

House Republicans should have been pinching themselves in disbelief. Yet within hours of this 370-page bill dropping, House GOP leaders ruled out letting their chamber vote on any of it.

Maybe GOP lawmakers genuinely think they should hold out for the more draconian bill they put forward last year, known as H.R. 2. There are two major problems with this strategy: First, H.R. 2 would not supply funding for pretty much anything that could stop border crossings.

Second, it would almost certainly never become law — even if Republicans were to gain control of the White House and both chambers of Congress. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) himself has pointed this out. (For procedural reasons, the bill would need 60 votes, which it could not get.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/05/border-security-deal-immigration-johnson-obamacare/

I’ve always said, if you want to see the mettle of a congressman, make all bills single issue. Every time a poison pill makes its way into a bill, it gives Congress an excuse to not vote for it.


This is why single issue is the only way.

 

[Oldestyle]

Pass this bill and he CAN do what you claim to want.
As of now the law doesn’t allow that

He's always been able to secure the border, Lesh! He's deliberately chosen not to! What law prevents Biden from putting the border policies that Trump had in place...back in place? He has always had the authority to do just that!

 

[Lesh]

He's always been able to secure the border, Lesh! He's deliberately chosen not to! What law prevents Biden from putting the border policies that Trump had in place...back in place? He has always had the authority to do just that!

Courts ended title 42 last summer. Worked well huh? That’s the Trump policy

Title 8 governs this now. Look it up

 

[konradv]

The border "chaos" is about to bankrupt Democrat run "Sanctuary Cities", Konradv! That's the threat that you on the left have created. That's a threat that Joe Biden could literally fix tomorrow if he wanted to. So my question to you is a simple one! How many illegals are enough for you progressives? Are you willing to destroy the country over this?

So, Republicans are going to punish the country, because they’re mad? Psychopaths!!!

 

[kyzr]

So, Republicans are going to punish the country, because they’re mad? Psychopaths!!!

Not the country, just the sanctuary cities and states.
Enjoy bankruptcy. Dumbasses.

 

[Nostra]

Pass this bill and he CAN do what you claim to want.
As of now the law doesn’t allow that

He can do it now, dumbass.

 

[Lesh]

He can do it now, dumbass.

Under what authority? What law allows for that?

The Bill you guys killed would have

 

[Oldestyle]

Courts ended title 42 last summer. Worked well huh? That’s the Trump policy

Title 8 governs this now. Look it up

The President has the authority to close the border at any time. That authority has nothing to do with Title 42. The exact Executive Orders that Biden used to get rid of Trump's border policies and open the border wide open he could use today to secure the border. He's been able to do that EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY!!! So don't even try to come here and say he needs the Republicans to secure the border...that's absolute BULLSHIT!

 

[Oldestyle]

So, Republicans are going to punish the country, because they’re mad? Psychopaths!!!

Republicans stood helpless while this President opened the border wide open and you on the left REJOICED! For three years the GOP tried to get Joe Biden to get the border under control and for three years Democrats told them to go pound sand! So now that you've let in so many illegals that the crisis that's been felt in border States all this time is being felt in Democrat cities like Boston, New York, Chicago and Detroit...NOW you want the Republicans to help you fix this? Fix something that Joe Biden has had the power to fix all along and refused to do?

Gee, Konradv...GO POUND SAND!!!

 

[konradv]

Republicans stood helpless while this President opened the border wide open and you on the left REJOICED! For three years the GOP tried to get Joe Biden to get the border under control and for three years Democrats told them to go pound sand! So now that you've let in so many illegals that the crisis that's been felt in border States all this time is being felt in Democrat cities like Boston, New York, Chicago and Detroit...NOW you want the Republicans to help you fix this? Fix something that Joe Biden has had the power to fix all along and refused to do?

Gee, Konradv...GO POUND SAND!!!

Then pass the bill. I’m starting to think Trump’s rejection isn’t about the border, but a payback to Russia for 2016 by stabbing Ukraine in the back. Tucker just went to Moscow to give Vlad the good news.

 

[Oldestyle]

Then pass the bill. I’m starting to think Trump’s rejection isn’t about the border, but a payback to Russia for 2016 by stabbing Ukraine in the back. Tucker just went to Moscow to give Vlad the good news.

Why would any rational person pass THAT bill? It doesn't fix the border. The funding for Ukraine was included to try and sell it. Joe Biden doesn't need Congress to fix the border. He has the power to do it himself and do it today. He always has! You want funding for Ukraine? Put it in a bill by itself.

 

[konradv]

Why would any rational person pass THAT bill? It doesn't fix the border. The funding for Ukraine was included to try and sell it. Joe Biden doesn't need Congress to fix the border. He has the power to do it himself and do it today. He always has! You want funding for Ukraine? Put it in a bill by itself.

It contains what the Republicans said they wanted, but now they don’t! They’re just not serious people and the country is going to be regularly informed of that fact over the next seven months.

 

[Oldestyle]

It contains what the Republicans said they wanted and now they don’t. They’re just not serious people and the country is going to informed regularly of that fact over the next seven months.

LOL...it does NOT contain what the Republicans wanted because it doesn't secure the border! It was never a "serious" bill and was never meant to be passed. It's something the Democrats want to use to deflect blame from their border policies for the past three years that have created a massive crisis throughout the US but especially in Democrat controlled "sanctuary cities"! The only problem with that narrative is that to believe that you have to believe that for some reason Joe Biden was able to get rid of Trump's border policies with Executive Orders but wasn't able to issue Executive Orders to correct his own failed policies! Nobody is going to buy that, Konradv! They know it's bullshit.

 

[konradv]

LOL...it does NOT contain what the Republicans wanted because it doesn't secure the border! It was never a "serious" bill and was never meant to be passed. It's something the Democrats want to use to deflect blame from their border policies for the past three years that have created a massive crisis throughout the US but especially in Democrat controlled "sanctuary cities"! The only problem with that narrative is that to believe that you have to believe that for some reason Joe Biden was able to get rid of Trump's border policies with Executive Orders but wasn't able to issue Executive Orders to correct his own failed policies! Nobody is going to buy that, Konradv! They know it's bullshit.

This bill was largely written by Republicans and they got just about everything they wanted, so I’m going to have to give your comments a big LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

 

[Nostra]

This bill was largely written by Republicans and they got just about everything they wanted, so I’m going to have to give your comments a big LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!

Lies.