The GOP Dog Caught The Car....Again. This Time It's Border Protection.

[konradv]

The border has been running wild for the past three years, my friend! That's on you progressives! You made the mess...you fix it!

Thought you wanted to do something about it or is this really just a gift to Putin? Tucker brought the good news to Moscow about how the Republicans stabbed democracy in the back for love of Vlad! I guess border chaos isn’t really as big a threat to us as MAGA would have us believe, rather an opportunity to amass political capital on the backs of people on both sides of the border.

 

[Chillicothe]

you progressives (?) have already let into the country,

Umm, mein freund, that is a sad and misguided assertion. What's up with that?
I'm a an old retired business guy who now farms a bit in a rural Midwest state. Our farms are maybe....2,200 miles from Tijuana. How did I, as one of your purported and imaginary 'you progressives', let anybody into the United States, legally or illegally.?

(For the sake of transparency: I must confess that I (and my bride) have donated old clothing to a local Ukrainian church that has sponsored war refugees. Now you know.)

Look, poster Oldestyle, you are hyperventilating over imaginary fears.....as if one of these immigrant families is gonna set up in your backyard. And by the way, the majority of Hispanic immigrants now showing up at our border ARE.....families, with children.

But back to the serious question: Just how many immigrants does America need annually?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Leave it to Catherine Rumpell with the Washington Post to keep it real regarding the current border protection bill. --

Welp, the dog caught the car again. After months — decades? — of running on tightening the border, House Republicans are suddenly paralyzed when offered the chance to do so.

A hard-won, bipartisan Senate deal dropped Sunday evening, with tons of items on conservatives’ border-policy bucket list, including many that former president Donald Trump had begged for. These include:

• beefing up border security as a condition for giving any more aid to Ukraine (check!)
• a tougher and faster asylum-processing system so that those who don’t meet asylum criteria cannot stay and work for years while their cases crawl through the courts (check!)
• hiring more personnel for Customs and Border Protection as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (1,500 and 1,200, respectively — so, check, check!)
• huge investments in fentanyl detection technologies and other anti-trafficking enforcement (check!)
• reviving something like Title 42 restrictions, wherein the president can “shut down” most of the asylum system (though this version doesn’t require a public health pretext and has more severe consequences for border-crossers — so, check-plus, perhaps).

House Republicans should have been pinching themselves in disbelief. Yet within hours of this 370-page bill dropping, House GOP leaders ruled out letting their chamber vote on any of it.

Maybe GOP lawmakers genuinely think they should hold out for the more draconian bill they put forward last year, known as H.R. 2. There are two major problems with this strategy: First, H.R. 2 would not supply funding for pretty much anything that could stop border crossings.

Second, it would almost certainly never become law — even if Republicans were to gain control of the White House and both chambers of Congress. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) himself has pointed this out. (For procedural reasons, the bill would need 60 votes, which it could not get.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/05/border-security-deal-immigration-johnson-obamacare/

The Border Bill allows a force the size of Patton's Third Army to cross into America on a monthly basis -- and you think that's a good deal

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thought you wanted to do something about it or is this really just a gift to Putin? Tucker brought the good news to Moscow about how the Republicans stabbed democracy in the back for love of Vlad! I guess border chaos isn’t really as big a threat to us as MAGA would have us believe, rather an opportunity to amass political capital on the backs of people on both sides of the border.

Figures you think Ukraine is a 'Mockracy

 

[konradv]

Figures you think Ukraine is a 'Mockracy

Ten times the democracy Russia is.

 

[Nostra]

Leave it to Catherine Rumpell with the Washington Post to keep it real regarding the current border protection bill. --

Welp, the dog caught the car again. After months — decades? — of running on tightening the border, House Republicans are suddenly paralyzed when offered the chance to do so.

A hard-won, bipartisan Senate deal dropped Sunday evening, with tons of items on conservatives’ border-policy bucket list, including many that former president Donald Trump had begged for. These include:

• beefing up border security as a condition for giving any more aid to Ukraine (check!)
• a tougher and faster asylum-processing system so that those who don’t meet asylum criteria cannot stay and work for years while their cases crawl through the courts (check!)
• hiring more personnel for Customs and Border Protection as well as Immigration and Customs Enforcement (1,500 and 1,200, respectively — so, check, check!)
• huge investments in fentanyl detection technologies and other anti-trafficking enforcement (check!)
• reviving something like Title 42 restrictions, wherein the president can “shut down” most of the asylum system (though this version doesn’t require a public health pretext and has more severe consequences for border-crossers — so, check-plus, perhaps).

House Republicans should have been pinching themselves in disbelief. Yet within hours of this 370-page bill dropping, House GOP leaders ruled out letting their chamber vote on any of it.

Maybe GOP lawmakers genuinely think they should hold out for the more draconian bill they put forward last year, known as H.R. 2. There are two major problems with this strategy: First, H.R. 2 would not supply funding for pretty much anything that could stop border crossings.

Second, it would almost certainly never become law — even if Republicans were to gain control of the White House and both chambers of Congress. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) himself has pointed this out. (For procedural reasons, the bill would need 60 votes, which it could not get.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/05/border-security-deal-immigration-johnson-obamacare/

It’s a shit bill, liar.

 

[Nostra]

Yeah, the truth is annoying, isn't it??

This bill has everything you MAGA traitor fucks wanted...and then some.

You're too busy sucking Trump's dick all the time to realize how PATHETIC you people are.

Lies. Republicans don’t want 2 million illegals a year, dumbass.

 

[Nostra]

It helps if you learn to read. --

Maybe GOP lawmakers genuinely think they should hold out for the more draconian bill they put forward last year, known as H.R. 2. There are two major problems with this strategy: First, H.R. 2 would not supply funding for pretty much anything that could stop border crossings.

Second, it would almost certainly never become law — even if Republicans were to gain control of the White House and both chambers of Congress. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) himself has pointed this out. (For procedural reasons, the bill would need 60 votes, which it could not get.)

Your shit bill is DOA, liar.

 

[konradv]

It’s a shit bill, liar.

The Republicans want to stab Israel and Ukraine in the back. Tucker is in Moscow giving Putin the good news.

 

[Nostra]

You should blame the GOP. They constantly whined about a border "crisis".

I guess it's not a "crisis" after all. You MAGA fucks are so full of shit.

Your shit bill makes it worse, liar.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yeah, the truth is annoying, isn't it??

This bill has everything you MAGA traitor fucks wanted...and then some.

You're too busy sucking Trump's dick all the time to realize how PATHETIC you people are.

/——/ Dementia Joe doesn’t need a bill. All he needs is a pen.

 

[Nostra]

Just like Trump has caused your fucking MAGA racist imbeciles to fall flat on your fucking faces the past 4 years.

And you will fall hardest in November, racist pussy.

Trolling your own shit thread.

 

[konradv]

Your shit bill makes it worse, liar.

It was a Republican bill until Trump decided to shit on it, just like he pushed Warp Speed then shit on the vaccine.

 

[konradv]

Trolling your own shit thread.

I didn’t realize there was a sign up sheet for threads to troll!!!

 

[westwall]

Umm, mein freund, that is a sad and misguided assertion. What's up with that?
I'm a an old retired business guy who now farms a bit in a rural Midwest state. Our farms are maybe....2,200 miles from Tijuana. How did I, as one of your purported and imaginary 'you progressives', let anybody into the United States, legally or illegally.?

(For the sake of transparency: I must confess that I (and my bride) have donated old clothing to a local Ukrainian church that has sponsored war refugees. Now you know.)

Look, poster Oldestyle, you are hyperventilating over imaginary fears.....as if one of these immigrant families is gonna set up in your backyard. And by the way, the majority of Hispanic immigrants now showing up at our border ARE.....families, with children.

But back to the serious question: Just how many immigrants does America need annually?

None. We let in a million. But we need none.

 

[westwall]

The Republicans want to stab Israel and Ukraine in the back. Tucker is in Moscow giving Putin the good news.

Hysterical much?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ten times the democracy Russia is.

Sure, what churches have the Russians banned?

 

[Nostra]

It was a Republican bill until Trump decided to shit on it, just like he pushed Warp Speed then shit on the vaccine.

Lies

 

[Nostra]

Yeah, the truth is annoying, isn't it??

This bill has everything you MAGA traitor fucks wanted...and then some.

You're too busy sucking Trump's dick all the time to realize how PATHETIC you people are.

You are obsessed with Trump’s junk.

 

[Nostra]

There is no funding for your HR 2 bill, dumb ass. As I already explained to you.

In the real world, people have to COMPROMISE to pass legislation. But you live in your fantasy MAGA Trump dick-licker world.

You are obsessed with Trump’s junk