The Good Narrative Sure Has Shifted in the Last Three Days

[Lesh]

^^^ See? This is another way leftists delude themselves. They try to convince themselves that the people who disagree with their radical-left agenda, which includes prioritizing the interests of illegals over those of honest Americans, are “on the fringe.”

Trump WON largely because of the invasion of illegal aliens and his promise to stop the swarm and deport the ones here.

He won because eggs were expensive

 

[M14 Shooter]

Example
You support Trump’s war
Only 27% of America does
You’re on the fringe

Yeah?
Tell us what you think of requiring all voters to show government-issued photo identification to vote.

 

[M14 Shooter]

He won because eggs were expensive

He won because 6 million racist, sexist, misogynist Democrats refused to vote for a colored woman.

 

[IM2]

He won because 6 million racist, sexist, misogynist Democrats refused to vote for a colored woman.

No, he won because 57 percent of whites who chose to vote, picked him.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sure, but is it too much to ask for some degree of proportionality?

Is it too much to ask that people stop interfering with law enforcement officers while they do their jobs?

I think it was her intention to annoy. Given other cars were freely passing through the other lane, one could hardly say that ICE was prevented from carrying on with their day.

Irrelevant. What she did was unlawful whether it prevented anyone from getting down the street or not.

There's a reason that street is a two-lane one way - to accommodate the volume of traffic that normally passes through there. By the same token, there's a reason she blocked one of those lanes.

Again, traffic was freely flowing in the left lane. We saw cars passing by.

So why did she specifically choose to block a lane?

You act as though ICE’s actions were mandatory. There were many options they had to prevent the kind of escalation that occurred.

There were many options she had to prevent the kind of escalation that occurred.

You said the encounter was "was wholly by choice." That's true. But their intention in encountering her was only to ask her to leave or get out of the vehicle. That's it. Their choice to confront her is not what escalated the situation. Her refusal to comply with their commands and then panicking and trying to flee is what escalated the situation.

Sure. Her choices contributed to the outcome. So did the choices of ICE agents.

Sure, after she hit one of them with her vehicle.

If both sides have blame, only one side had consequences.

If the shooting was justified, is that the officer's fault?

Good did not deserve to die over this but her actions were stupid and reckless and that's what got her killed.

 

[Marener]

Is it too much to ask that people stop interfering with law enforcement officers while they do their jobs?

Answering a question with a question. Yet again, saying it’s interference is a stretch. The amount of actual interference was negligible. A proportional response would be to ignore it.

Irrelevant. What she did was unlawful whether it prevented anyone from getting down the street or not.

Quite relevant. Escalating the situation was unnecessary and unhelpful.

There's a reason that street is a two-lane one way - to accommodate the volume of traffic that normally passes through there. By the same token, there's a reason she blocked one of those lanes.

It’s an old part of town. The streets are wide because it used to be lined by mansions and was a major thoroughfare 80 years ago prior to the interstate system.

As you can see from the video, there is very little to no traffic.

So why did she specifically choose to block a lane?

I can only speculate, and as I stated earlier, to be annoying.

There were many options she had to prevent the kind of escalation that occurred.

Fair.

You said the encounter was "was wholly by choice." That's true. But their intention in encountering her was only to ask her to leave or get out of the vehicle. That's it. Their choice to confront her is not what escalated the situation. Her refusal to comply with their commands and then panicking and trying to flee is what escalated the situation.

Yet again, you act as though ICE had no agency and the only person making choices was Good.

That’s just not true.

Sure, after she hit one of them with her vehicle.

If the shooting was justified, is that the officer's fault?

The shooting may be legally justified but the fact remains is that it was pointless and unnecessary.

Good did not deserve to die over this but her actions were stupid and reckless and that's what got her killed.

Yes. She was reckless and stupid.

ICE was reckless and stupid and they continue to act in a reckless and stupid manner and people continue to get hurt.