The Good Narrative Sure Has Shifted in the Last Three Days

[Marener]

It wasn’t a minor traffic violation. It was a deranged and violent leftist obstructing a federal law enforcement operation, and injuring an officer, aiming to run him over.

The idea that she was intentionally trying to harm the officer is betrayed by the video, showing her attempting to drive around by first going in reverse and turning to avoid him.

So stop with the lies. DHS loves to lie to suit their agenda. Don’t be a useful idiot.

Second, ICE was not prevented from doing anything. The thugs hide behind “obstruction” to justify their violence against Americans when it untrue. All we want is accountability.

 

[Marener]

And the illegal black Muslims choose to murder innocent people waiting at bus stops because that’s who they are.

And THESE are the people you’re trying to protect!

Racist and bigoted in one post. Throw in sexist and you’d have a conservative hatred hat trick!

 

[Lesh]

she was trying to escape at that point. She was given a chance to leave and refused to leave, then was told she had to get out of the car, that's when she used deadly force in her failed escape.

So “leave” becomes “escape”?

Even were she trying to “escape” the appropriate response is not to shoot her in the head

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Just between you and I, these leftists have gone stark-raving nuts.

What they refuse to understand is that Good's actions and inaction were a contributing factor in the escalation of this incident. There's just no getting around this.

Even if we acknowledge the possibility that the shooting was unjustified and that the agent's actions went against established procedure, Good was an adult who knew the law and thus knew that her actions were unlawful. The agent's actions did not absolve her of that.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

So “leave” becomes “escape”?

Even were she trying to “escape” the appropriate response is not to shoot her in the head

She wasn't shot for trying to escape, she was shot for striking the officer.

 

[Lesh]

She wasn't shot for trying to escape, she was shot for striking the officer.

Which of course did not happen

 

[Marener]

She wasn't shot for trying to escape, she was shot for striking the officer.

Doesn’t this imply that shooting her was punitive?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

If you’re so worried about minor traffic violations and noise ordinances, call the local police like every other Karen.

Nice try, dumbass. This changes nothing as far as Good's responsibilities as an adult to abide by the law.

ICE chose to use violence because there’s who they are.

If they "chose violence" as you say then they wouldn't have bothered to ask her to leave or get out of the vehicle and would have shot her outright. But they did ask her to leave and they did ask her to get out of the vehicle and she refused to comply with both.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Which of course did not happen

Yes, it did.

 

[Mac-7]

Violence is ripping people out of cars.

ICE uses violence anytime they want, all over the country, without repercussions.

That’s what we should be outraged about.

If they refuse to leave the car thats what cops have to do

Who are you trying to bullshit?

It cant be me because I know the facts

 

[Marener]

If they refuse to leave the car thats what cops have to do

Who are you trying to bullshit?

It cant be me because I know the facts

They didn’t have to do anything.

ICE could have just left, gone about their day, and try to arrest illegal immigrants.

 

[Marener]

Nice try, dumbass. This changes nothing as far as Good's responsibilities as an adult to abide by the law.

If they "chose violence" as you say then they wouldn't have bothered to ask her to leave or get out of the vehicle and would have shot her outright. But they did ask her to leave and they did ask her to get out of the vehicle and she refused to comply with both.

Shooting her outright is a bridge too far even for these guys. They have to wait for any plausible excuse to justify escalating violence to the point of lethal force.

Although we have seen instances where their justification for using lethal force has been fabricated.

The idea was obstructing them is a reach. What exactly were they prevented from doing?

 

[Mac-7]

They didn’t have to do anything.

ICE could have just left, gone about their day, and try to arrest illegal immigrants.

Thats what you want to happen

But ICE will continue to deport illegal aliens in spite of you and obstructionists like Good

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Doesn’t this imply that shooting her was punitive?

Does it imply that her striking him was malicious?

We could entertain possible implications all day but at the end of the day, her actions were unlawful, deliberate and reckless. She went there purposely to agitate the officers and that is exactly what happened.

 

[Marener]

Thats what you want to happen

But ICE will continue to deport illegal aliens in spite of you and obstructionists like Good

Trying to rip Americans out of their cars isn’t deporting illegal aliens.

ICE didn’t have to do anything to Good. They could have just continued with their day.

 

[Marener]

Does it imply that her striking him was malicious?

We could entertain possible implications all day but at the end of the day, her actions were unlawful, deliberate and reckless. She went there purposely to agitate the officers and that is exactly what happened.

Video evidence from the day would indicate that she was not intentionally trying to hit the ICE agent.

Shooting her was deliberate, pointless, reckless and wrong.

Although it may be legal, that doesn’t make it right.

 

[citygator]

The point is not whether justice is done or not

That IS exactly the point genius. Crimes happen in the past. Justice happens in the present and it is something you can impact.

 

[M14 Shooter]

When you lie about basic facts , your entire narrative is bullshit

^^
Incomprehensible irony

 

[M14 Shooter]

So “leave” becomes “escape”?

She was ordered to exit her vehicle.
She left to escape that order.
Duh.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Which of course did not happen

When you lie about basic facts , your entire narrative is bullshit