The Flag of Treason

[Hutch Starskey]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals. You are the one ignoring all the rest of the historical reality with your desire to demagogue on the slavery aspect of the war.


TO justify your singling out and attacking their descendants because of your modern day bigotry and racism.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals.

Nope....sorry.
Slavery was at the root of every grievance of the confederacy.

 

[bripat9643]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

Hoe about Martin Luther King?

 

[bripat9643]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals. You are the one ignoring all the rest of the historical reality with your desire to demagogue on the slavery aspect of the war.


TO justify your singling out and attacking their descendants because of your modern day bigotry and racism.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals.

Nope....sorry.
Slavery was at the root of every grievance of the confederacy.

That's purely your opinion, and it doesn't matter anyway. Lincoln started war, and he didn't do it to free the slaves.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?

Why we need to get rid of Confederate symbols

You have a right to get rid of your symbols; not mine.

 

[9thIDdoc]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

I have the right to venerate whom I choose for whatever reason I choose. How childish is to blame me for actions I never committed that were in fact alleged to have been committed by people neither you nor I ever knew? Grow up.

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals. You are the one ignoring all the rest of the historical reality with your desire to demagogue on the slavery aspect of the war.


TO justify your singling out and attacking their descendants because of your modern day bigotry and racism.

Slavery was ONE of the stated goals.

Nope....sorry.
Slavery was at the root of every grievance of the confederacy.

Nice. Not only did you move the goal posts, but you changed the topic to subjective "root of " qualifier.

No way I could nail you down on anything as nebulous as that.

Very well done.


Of course, it does raise the interesting question, why do you feel such a need to be so evasive?

Oh, and I will be calling you Wally from now on.

Anyhow, my point stands.




Slavery was ONE of the stated goals. You are the one ignoring all the rest of the historical reality with your desire to demagogue on the slavery aspect of the war.


TO justify your singling out and attacking their descendants because of your modern day bigotry and racism.



Wally.

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

Hoe about Martin Luther King?

That is different because of Race.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

 

[Billiejeens]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

You Democrats lost, just as bad as you lost to Donald Trump.



Trump is the modern-day Lincoln, and he's gonna whup yer sorry asses again, just wait.

Sometimes I do think that President Trump is the reincarnation of Lincoln.

 

[bripat9643]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

Who ever said it wasn't?

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

Who ever said it wasn't?

libs just say shit. It don't mean nothing.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

They committed treason against the United States and took up arms against it.

The Confederacy was anti-USA and pro slavery
Not something to brag about

 

[rightwinger]

Who ever said it wasn't?

Anyone who defends the Confederacy
There is nothing to defend

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

They committed treason against the United States and took up arms against it.

The Confederacy was anti-USA and pro slavery
Not something to brag about

They fought bravely and well against overwhelming odds, in defense of their homelands.


That is something to brag about.


Your inability to respect that, is you being weak.


Our ancestors, who actually defeated the Confederacy, had no problem with it.


Who are you to gain say their acceptance of it? What is the basis of your Moral Authority that outweighs theirs?


Did you wear a ribbon? Carry a sign on a slightly warm day? Talk shit about shit you don't understand?

LOL!!!



You soy boy cuck.

 

[Correll]

Who ever said it wasn't?

Anyone who defends the Confederacy
There is nothing to defend

You don't get to tell other people what they are doing or saying, you raving loon.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

They committed treason against the United States and took up arms against it.

The Confederacy was anti-USA and pro slavery
Not something to brag about

They fought bravely and well against overwhelming odds, in defense of their homelands.


That is something to brag about.


Your inability to respect that, is you being weak.


Our ancestors, who actually defeated the Confederacy, had no problem with it.


Who are you to gain say their acceptance of it? What is the basis of your Moral Authority that outweighs theirs?


Did you wear a ribbon? Carry a sign on a slightly warm day? Talk shit about shit you don't understand?

LOL!!!



You soy boy cuck.

They fought AGAINST the United States of America
They fought to defend a Confederacy dedicated to continuing slavery forever.

Neither is admirable

 

[Correll]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

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Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

They committed treason against the United States and took up arms against it.

The Confederacy was anti-USA and pro slavery
Not something to brag about

They fought bravely and well against overwhelming odds, in defense of their homelands.


That is something to brag about.


Your inability to respect that, is you being weak.


Our ancestors, who actually defeated the Confederacy, had no problem with it.


Who are you to gain say their acceptance of it? What is the basis of your Moral Authority that outweighs theirs?


Did you wear a ribbon? Carry a sign on a slightly warm day? Talk shit about shit you don't understand?

LOL!!!



You soy boy cuck.

They fought AGAINST the United States of America
They fought to defend a Confederacy dedicated to continuing slavery forever.

Neither is admirable

Which is probably why you never hear anyone admiring them for that.


People focus on other aspects of the war. LIke the courage and skill of the soldiers fighting to protect their homelands from invasion.

It is only asshole race baiters like you, that pretend that they are being honored for their support of slavery or secession.


This is well know. YOu know it. Everyone knows it.


YOu are an asshole. And you lie to justify your bullying behavior.


People are dying in race riots right now, and you are still race baiting. YOu are a vile piece of shit.

 

[bripat9643]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

View attachment 357434

Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.

Of course I do

Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks

Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.

OK Regional pride in what?

That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?


THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.

The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.


What part of this is confusing to you?

It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.

The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.

Either you are confused or sympathetic.

You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.

I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.

The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.


A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.


This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.


Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?

Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.

This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible

Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.

Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.

Whatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.

If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. A

His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule

He only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.

You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.

Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansion

The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.

Exactly. What interests were those, dope?

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?


My point stands. Lincoln was deeply hostile to them, and had a real plan to use the power of the Federal Government against them.


So they left. Or tried to and LIncoln conquered them. A lot of their people fought to defend their homelands.

That their descendants put up some statues in memory of their service, is pretty normal.


That you are butthurt about it, is not.


YOu are the bad guy. NOt the people that have some regional pride in their heritage. YOu are for wanting to attack them and it.

Why? YOu think that the emotional impact of saying it, is the only way for you to score a point because your argument is so stupid that it can't stand up to any actual thought?

Why? Because that's been my point all along. I just had to run your ass in circles until you realized I was correct.

Now that you've admitted it, why would you wish to continue to venerate the men who fought against their own nation with troops ignorant of the goals of the confederacy toward such ends? They exploited those "good ole boys". Why venerate them?

Your spin on it, is noted and dismissed.


My reason is the same it has always been. Their service to their States is worthy of respect. That you can't admit that, is you being a close minded bigot.


SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole.

SLAVERY was the primary underlying cause of the War. That does not change the fact that the men that fought, fought bravely and for their duty as they saw it at that time.

That you want to deprive their descendants of their pride in their heritage or the right to celebrate it, is you being a bully and an asshole

Yes, and every one of the cofederate generals being venerated in memorials and statues knew that about the confederacy. They each chose to represent the army of the confederacy as well. Their "duty" was to try and realize the stated goals of the confederacy. To preserve slavery.

There's no way to get around that. It's not "spin" or a "narrative". It's reality.

Yes, the preservation of slavery was one of the stated goals of the Confederacy. So what?Reality is slavery was legal and considered moral and absolutely necessary to the economy of the South. You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to apply modern standards to the honor of men of times long past.

You are wrong to venerate such men "of times long past". We've moved on. Times change. Grow up.

no, he is not. It is unreasonable to judge people of the past by modern standards. We have not "moved on", you have become intolerant and bigoted.

I think by any standard you can judge slavery as wrong

Even a Trump supporter can admit that

I think that by any standard, you could respect a man that fights to defend his homeland from foreign invasion.


Even an anti-Trumper should be able to admit that.

But you can't. Because you are too partisan and bigoted.

They committed treason against the United States and took up arms against it.

The Confederacy was anti-USA and pro slavery
Not something to brag about

Wrong, asshole. They defended their homeland against an invasion by the federal government.