The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination; violence in politics identified as a pre-cursor to civil war.

[Lisa558]

Orange Man is a would be Hitler. He uses the same tactics and rhetoric.

I never paid much attenion to Charlie Kirk. To me he was just another podcaster hoping to be the center of the talk radio right and claim the crown once held by Rush Limbaugh. I have no idea whether he embraced the facism that permeats much of Trumpster rhetoric. I have not really researched what he actually said (as opposed to what many said about him).

Too bad you never learned that putting words in someone else's mouth is not an effective debating technique.

^^^ and this leftist proves my point, and doubles down on the type of hateful and false rhetoric that got a good man murdered.

 

[Failzero]

The Far Left & Left owning the Vote from the Rooftops is a big mistake long term

 

[progressive hunter]

 

[sealybobo]

I haven't listened to anything Trump has to say for...months. I am waiting to see RESULTS. Don't care what he has to SAY at this point.


I riled up from you lefties murdering people. Little things like random murder, tend to rile people up. YOu might want to consider that. moving forward.




Big differences between the kkk and the gop. I assume, i don't really know what they are pushing for these days.


But on the left? It was mainstream dems that did lawfare. It was mainstream dems that arrested rittenhouse for defending himself from a murder mob. For two obvious examples.








All of you, in any positions of authority. You all need purged. that is what I want.



NOt sure what you are talking about here.

Shit's getting crazy. Trump is clearly contributing to the problem. Every other president is saying we all got to stop this. But not Trump. Trump can't help himself. He blames the left.

And it sounds like you're falling for it. If so, I can't take you seriously. Not today anyways.

Rittenhouse? Who went out looking for trouble? And what about the guy opposite of Rittenhouse? What do you have to say about that guy? A BLM protester was carrying his gun, same way Rittenhouse was. He and other protesters were walking towards a car. Inside the car was a armed man. He saw the BLM protest legally walking towards him and shot the guy with the gun. He was found guilty of murder. Then Republican GOV of Texas pardoned him.

So if you ask me, we are already in a Civil war. And your side lets the murderers and rioters out after they are found guilty in a court of law.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Here's his response to, to a suggestion he call Walz following an earlier political assassination two months ago.



This is very obviously a man for whom strong social division is personally empowering, he likes it and will do nothing to reduce it.

Parrots going to parrot.
This comment, to anyone with an IQ over 90 and an ounce of integrity - know that Trump was saying he doesn't care to try and find commonality with extremist like the murderer and those that support him.

But - no one expected any different from the parrot-robot you are.

 

[Correll]

Shit's getting crazy. Trump is clearly contributing to the problem. Every other president is saying we all got to stop this. But not Trump. Trump can't help himself. He blames the left.

good. That playbook led to where we are.

We don't need to pretend everything is ok. We need to defeat modern leftism.

And it sounds like you're falling for it. If so, I can't take you seriously. Not today anyways.

Shove your shit talk back where it came from.

Rittenhouse? Who went out looking for trouble? And what about the guy opposite of Rittenhouse? What do you have to say about that guy?

He went looking to help protect his community from a violent lefty mob. And they tried to kill him for it, and when he defended himself, MAINSTREAM DEMS arrested him.

That defines your side. That is who you are. You are still standing by that today, despite losing in court.

See the difference? You do, but you will lie, and play retard. It is the only way lefties can defend modern leftism.

A BLM protester was carrying his gun, same way Rittenhouse was. He and other protesters were walking towards a car. Inside the car was a armed man. He saw the BLM protest legally walking towards him and shot the guy with the gun. He was found guilty of murder. Then Republican GOV of Texas pardoned him.

The blm mob was attacking the guy in teh car. The blm TERRORIST was "defending" his fellow mob members and thus part of the threat to the driver.


He played stupid games and won a stupid prize.


And you stand by that. THus, it does define the mainstream dem party.


Thus we see the difference. Your side is hte side of violent street thugs, brownshirts, while MAGA are... the complete opposite of you vile barbarians.

So if you ask me, we are already in a Civil war. And your side lets the murderers and rioters out after they are found guilty in a court of law.

If it is a civil war, then do you support the killing of charlie kirk?

 

[sealybobo]

good. That playbook led to where we are.

We don't need to pretend everything is ok. We need to defeat modern leftism.




Shove your shit talk back where it came from.



He went looking to help protect his community from a violent lefty mob. And they tried to kill him for it, and when he defended himself, MAINSTREAM DEMS arrested him.

That defines your side. That is who you are. You are still standing by that today, despite losing in court.

See the difference? You do, but you will lie, and play retard. It is the only way lefties can defend modern leftism.





The blm mob was attacking the guy in teh car. The blm TERRORIST was "defending" his fellow mob members and thus part of the threat to the driver.


He played stupid games and won a stupid prize.


And you stand by that. THus, it does define the mainstream dem party.


Thus we see the difference. Your side is hte side of violent street thugs, brownshirts, while MAGA are... the complete opposite of you vile barbarians.





If it is a civil war, then do you support the killing of charlie kirk?

No the BLM mob wasn't attacking the car. Jury didn't see it that way. But the GOP GOV did? For political reasons. You are a right wing nut job. I always knew it. You only pretend to be normal around here. Go ahead, go to war. See how that turns out for you dummy. Me? I just checked my 401K. I have too much to lose.

No I don't support killing someone just for exercising their free speech you idiot.

It's funny that Rittenhouse murdered one of ours but you say that incident proves WE are violent? LOL. Yea sure. And that protest in LA justified Trump sending the military to California. I'm curious just how Fascist are you bro?

And they blew up a ship off the coast of Venesuela? They say it was carrying drugs? You believe them? Gonna be hard to tell Russia to stop what they are doing when we're doing shady shit too.

Vance defends strike on suspected smugglers off Venezuela but concedes 'due process concerns'​

The vice president's earlier remarks on the incident drew fire from GOP Sen. Rand Paul.

Vance addressed criticism from Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who criticized the vice president for endorsing the killing of the people on the boat without any kind of judicial process, and then dismissing concerns about human rights.

“I understand the concerns about due process, I understand some of the criticisms that have been raised, but this is not a situation where we can send the Navy SEALs into these places, arrest them and give them a proper civil trial or criminal trial,” Vance said in the interview.

The president announced Sept. 2 that the U.S. conducted an airstrike against a suspected drug boat off the coast of Venezuela, killing 11 people. Vance defended it at the time as “the highest and best use of our military” while dismissing accusations the strike amounted to a war crime.

Vance’s earlier comments drew the ire of the Libertarian-leaning Paul, who questioned the lack of due process for the suspected drug traffickers killed in the strike and called Vance’s comments “a despicable and thoughtless sentiment.”

Legal experts have questioned the legal basis for the strike and have warned about the precedent it sets for future actions against suspected criminals outside the country. Democrats have joined Paul in raising concerns over the legality of the strike.

 

[Correll]

No the BLM mob wasn't attacking the car. Jury didn't see it that way. But the GOP GOV did? For political reasons. You are a right wing nut job. I always knew it. You only pretend to be normal around here. Go ahead, go to war. See how that turns out for you dummy. Me? I just checked my 401K. I have too much to lose.

Yes. the mob of "protestors" were attacking the car.

YOu said this was a civil war. Why you whining like a little girl that the other side is fighting back?

No I don't support killing someone just for exercising their free speech you idiot.

If it is a civil war and someone is offering aid and comfort to the enemy and spread the propaganda of the enemy, then why the **** not?

You say shit like that, and people that, for some reason listen to you,...

What is this kid was your nephew? And he listed to his old uncle talk about how it was a civil war?

Then he decided to do his bit to save American from the supposed NAZIS"?


Your positions and words contradict each other, comstantly and completely.

It's funny that Rittenhouse murdered one of ours but you say that incident proves WE are violent? LOL. Yea sure.

COrrect. Rittenhouse had the right to defend himself from a violent lefty murder mob.

That you wanted him arrested for that, shows that you are defined by that violence.

And that protest in LA justified Trump sending the military to California. I'm curious just how Fascist are you bro?

That you call them protests instead of riots or terrorism, is you siding with the literally anti-American rioters.

And yes using american military to put down traitors and foreign... revolutionaries, is completely GOOD.

And they blew up a ship off the coast of Venesuela? They say it was carrying drugs? You believe them? Gonna be hard to tell Russia to stop what they are doing when we're doing shady shit too.

They way you imagine that the RUSSIANS define themselves by our actions is insane.

Vance defends strike on suspected smugglers off Venezuela but concedes 'due process concerns'​

The vice president's earlier remarks on the incident drew fire from GOP Sen. Rand Paul.

Vance addressed criticism from Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who criticized the vice president for endorsing the killing of the people on the boat without any kind of judicial process, and then dismissing concerns about human rights.

“I understand the concerns about due process, I understand some of the criticisms that have been raised, but this is not a situation where we can send the Navy SEALs into these places, arrest them and give them a proper civil trial or criminal trial,” Vance said in the interview.

The president announced Sept. 2 that the U.S. conducted an airstrike against a suspected drug boat off the coast of Venezuela, killing 11 people. Vance defended it at the time as “the highest and best use of our military” while dismissing accusations the strike amounted to a war crime.

Vance’s earlier comments drew the ire of the Libertarian-leaning Paul, who questioned the lack of due process for the suspected drug traffickers killed in the strike and called Vance’s comments “a despicable and thoughtless sentiment.”

Legal experts have questioned the legal basis for the strike and have warned about the precedent it sets for future actions against suspected criminals outside the country. Democrats have joined Paul in raising concerns over the legality of the strike.

 

[Redfish]

The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination
And how the resistance movements against the elites should proceed instead with restraint, patience and polite internet discussions.

A probable purpertrator (Tyler Robinson) was found. Apprehended. Time will tell us about the details.
A death penalty does not seem in order if you ask me. This was a signal of war against the whole Republican Party.

But you got to wonder; grief sticks to the family and close friends of Kirk for the rest of their lives (or for nearly all of them), but the rest of the Republicans have surely started in-depth investigations as to who is behind this; and they will deliver heavier strikes back.

Moral of the story? An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Opinions sought.

We do not need another civil war, and if we did have one, we have all the guns, the police and the military, the left would lose very quickly

Instead it may be time to divide the country, the left can have the west coast and the northeast. the normal people will take the rest. Then we can see which ideology actually works. it won't take long.

 

[theHawk]

The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination
And how the resistance movements against the elites should proceed instead with restraint, patience and polite internet discussions.

A probable purpertrator (Tyler Robinson) was found. Apprehended. Time will tell us about the details.
A death penalty does not seem in order if you ask me. This was a signal of war against the whole Republican Party.

But you got to wonder; grief sticks to the family and close friends of Kirk for the rest of their lives (or for nearly all of them), but the rest of the Republicans have surely started in-depth investigations as to who is behind this; and they will deliver heavier strikes back.

Moral of the story? An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Opinions sought.

We’re already in an uncivil war.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes. the mob of "protestors" were attacking the car.

YOu said this was a civil war. Why you whining like a little girl that the other side is fighting back?







If it is a civil war and someone is offering aid and comfort to the enemy and spread the propaganda of the enemy, then why the **** not?

You say shit like that, and people that, for some reason listen to you,...

What is this kid was your nephew? And he listed to his old uncle talk about how it was a civil war?

Then he decided to do his bit to save American from the supposed NAZIS"?


Your positions and words contradict each other, comstantly and completely.




COrrect. Rittenhouse had the right to defend himself from a violent lefty murder mob.

That you wanted him arrested for that, shows that you are defined by that violence.




That you call them protests instead of riots or terrorism, is you siding with the literally anti-American rioters.

And yes using american military to put down traitors and foreign... revolutionaries, is completely GOOD.




They way you imagine that the RUSSIANS define themselves by our actions is insane.

No they weren't attacking his car.

Are you fighting back? Name one Republican who has taken out a Democrat. LOL.

Stop calling us the radical left. Trump should have never said maybe the 2nd amendment people will do something about Hillary. We are lucky none of his followers listened to him huh?

The way you are talking is so anti American. Anti freedom.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's funny that Rittenhouse murdered one of ours

This is a lie.
All you do is lie.

but you say that incident proves WE are violent?

He killed people trying to kill him, so.. yes.

 

[sealybobo]

This is a lie.
All you do is lie.

He killed people trying to kill him, so.. yes.

Kyle murdered someone. They didn't try to kill him.

And let me use your own words against you. You said the insurrection wasn't violent because they didn't bring weapons. First of all, yes they did bring weapons. But let's say you were right. Well guess what? The people who Kyle murdered didn't have weapons. Only he had a weapon. Yet you call us violent?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Kyle murdered someone. They didn't try to kill him.

Both of your statements are lies.
Rittenhouse killed 2 people and shot a third, all in an exercise of his right to self-defense.

The people who Kyle [killed in self-defense] didn't have weapons.

This is also a lie.
All you do is lie.

 

[sealybobo]

Both of your statements are lies.
Rittenhouse killed 2 people and shot a third, all in an exercise of his right to self-defense.

This is also a lie.
All you do is lie.

They had weapons? Bullshit. If you are going to call me a liar, prove it. Did anyone shoot back at the guy who MURDERED a BLM protester in Texas? No? Why? Weren't they the violent left?

You probably don't even remember this incident. It's like all the kids who got shot before Charlie. You didn't care. But you care about Charlie.

Guess what? Charlie didn't care when other people got shot too.

If you want us to say nice things about you when you're dead, say nice things when you are alive.

• The incident: In July 2020, during a Black Lives Matter protest in Austin, Perry drove his car into a crowd of demonstrators. He then shot and killed U.S. Air Force veteran Garrett Foster, who was legally armed with an AK-47.

A Travis County jury found Perry guilty of murder in April 2023 and sentenced him to 25 years in prison.

During the trial, prosecutors presented text messages and social media posts where Perry had made racist comments and expressed a desire to harm protesters.

SO **** you ya piece of shit. The dude sat there watching a peaceful protest. Then ran his car into the crowd and shot a guy for doing exactly what Rittenhouse was doing.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They had weapons? Bullshit. If you are going to call me a liar, prove it.

Your lying, ignorant ass doesn't know the specifics of the case?
Color me surprised.

-Huber was shot while in the process of swinging a skateboard - a blunt weapon- at him
-Grosskreutz chased him while pointing a hangdun at him and was taking aim when shot
-Rosenbaum was shot while trying to disarm him

Murder? No. Self-defense.

All.
You.
Do.
Is.
Lie.

 

[sealybobo]

Your lying, ignorant ass doesn't know the specifics of the case?
Color me surprised.

-Huber was shoti n the process of swinging a skateboard - a blunt weapon- at him
-Grosskreutz chased him while pointing a hangdun at him ans was taking aim when shot
-Rosenbaum was shot while trying to disarm him

Murder? No. Self-defense.

All.
You.
Do.
Is.
Lie.

I'm not talking about Rittenhouse. The only thing he did wrong was bring a gun to a protest.

I'm talking about the fascist who murdered the BLM protester in Texas.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'm not talking about Rittenhouse.

Another lie.
Post # 227:

See?
All you do is lie.

Lie to us some more.

 

[Correll]

No they weren't attacking his car.

No one is buying your lies.

Are you fighting back? Name one Republican who has taken out a Democrat. LOL.

no. we are not fighting back. Not literally. It is interesting to consider why that is.

But, we get to the point when we, mage DOES start "fighting back" and shit will get ugly fast.

NOt sure why you want that. It is not likely to go well for you or yours.

Stop calling us the radical left. Trump should have never said maybe the 2nd amendment people will do something about Hillary. We are lucky none of his followers listened to him huh?

YOU said that YOU consider it a Civil War already happening. Whining like a little girl that the other side is even TALKING about fighing back, is not very tough of you.


Or consistent.

The way you are talking is so anti American. Anti freedom.

Mexicans to not have the freedom to take back LA.

 

[drudge X]

Kyle murdered someone. They didn't try to kill him.

And let me use your own words against you. You said the insurrection wasn't violent because they didn't bring weapons. First of all, yes they did bring weapons. But let's say you were right. Well guess what? The people who Kyle murdered didn't have weapons. Only he had a weapon. Yet you call us violent?

Lol... what a load of horse hockey. That is just to show how stupid your guys were attacking a guy carrying an assault rifle.