The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination; violence in politics identified as a pre-cursor to civil war.

[Blisterfinger]

No you don’t. You troll. You contribute nothing and only seek attention in the only way you know how. Not by being interesting or insightful. But by attacking and belittling.

I oppose your failed ideology. You don't like that so in turn you call me a troll. You leftists cannot deal with pushback. You are a fraud.

 

[leftwinger]

Y’all can have your civil war, whether it is in it’s current low simmer mode or turned up to roiling boil, I don’t care which.
Just let us peacefully withdraw, grant us our independence, then y’all have at it. Leave us out of it.

All Marxist criminals can pack up and go to Mexico or Canada. You'll be happier there as the GOVT are closer to Socialism.

 

[Unkotare]

In His Name

MLK intentionally started all the violence by putting on a pacifist non-resistance act that gained sympathy from the ruling class. Stuck on stupid, the rulers refused to admit that the riots disproved everything MLK had preached against segregation and discrimination. He should have been rejected just like anyone else whose followers proved that their leader was excusing and provoking their violence, criminality, and mooching all along.

Hey, you never did explain what you mean by “race traitor.” Well?

 

[Correll]

That’s so ironic.

Becasue of 1/6? A few hundred rioters, do not define a movement of over a hundred million you fool.

 

[sealybobo]

It will happen down the road by some conservative fringe groups or individuals and I will be the one to say told ya so. Notice that the loudmouths from your party are in hiding.

Are you a soldier or just an old man watching from home? I mean in this Civil War. You strapped?

 

[sealybobo]

Becasue of 1/6? A few hundred rioters, do not define a movement of over a hundred million you fool.

I bet you will enlist in the Confederate Army. Although, right now Trump is Lincoln. Trump is Actually Robert E Lee but he has control of the government. The south did not. This Civil War, Robert E Lee wins.

approximately 290,000 southerners died in the Civil War while serving in the Confederate army. This figure represents roughly 25% of white Southern men who were of military age. This loss was a higher percentage than for Union soldiers and had a devastating demographic impact on the South.

 

[sealybobo]

The reason is the constant spamming of hate mongering propaganda from the left, from legacy media to education to mass entertainment.


It is creating a culture of madness and entitlement. A movement that is not respecting the election but instead continuing the fight though violence.

Trump in 2016 said the 2nd amendment people might do something about Hillary. You show me what Democrats were saying such things in 2016.

You don't even realize the rich use these social wedge issues to divide us. The amount of lies from the right wing. The misinformation. You just can't see the hate mongering propoganda from the right, from the corporate media.

You are a con and you just don't like the way society is going. Where everyone is free. Even people you dislike. You sound like the Saudi leadership. Do you want us to cover up our women? Well if you are truly free then trannies are truly free to live among us. FREE. Not persecuted. Not treated like political footballs.

And if you are going to ban trannies from buying guns then what happens when a straight white male shoots up a place? You gonna ban straight white males?

How about you look in the mirror. And look at the GOP. They are dividing us brother. With social bullshit. To distract us from Epstein and this horrible economy. Trump is making the economy for middle class Americans WORSE not better. Oh but give it 2 years. I guess we have to. Meanwhile, they'll try to distract us with social issues.

And when is it okay to bomb a boat you THINK is carrying drugs? We're just just accept that? JD Vance doesn't care what we think? YOU ******* NAZIS. Lots of similarities

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Correll]

I bet you will enlist in the Confederate Army. Although, right now Trump is Lincoln. Trump is Actually Robert E Lee but he has control of the government. The south did not. This Civil War, Robert E Lee wins.

approximately 290,000 southerners died in the Civil War while serving in the Confederate army. This figure represents roughly 25% of white Southern men who were of military age. This loss was a higher percentage than for Union soldiers and had a devastating demographic impact on the South.

Irrelevant. You are just dodging my point, that demolished your point.

 

[Papageorgio]

The fallout of the Charlie Kirk assassination
And how the resistance movements against the elites should proceed instead with restraint, patience and polite internet discussions.

A probable purpertrator (Tyler Robinson) was found. Apprehended. Time will tell us about the details.
A death penalty does not seem in order if you ask me. This was a signal of war against the whole Republican Party.

But you got to wonder; grief sticks to the family and close friends of Kirk for the rest of their lives (or for nearly all of them), but the rest of the Republicans have surely started in-depth investigations as to who is behind this; and they will deliver heavier strikes back.

Moral of the story? An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Opinions sought.

He planned out and intentionally took the life of another person. Premeditated murder deserves the death penalty.

 

[Correll]

Trump in 2016 said the 2nd amendment people might do something about Hillary. You show me what Democrats were saying such things in 2016.

NOt sure of your point here. People have been discussing the constantly escalating conflict for a long time now. You... you trying to imply that this one snippet of that is Trump being the CAUSE of it?

I can see why you wanted to only imply that. Stating it clearly would make you look retarded.

You don't even realize the rich use these social wedge issues to divide us. The amount of lies from the right wing. The misinformation. You just can't see the hate mongering propoganda from the right, from the corporate media.

The corporate media is an arm of the dem party at this point and has been for a long time now.

Any pretense otherwise is just you being a filthy liar.

You are a con and you just don't like the way society is going. Where everyone is free. Even people you dislike. You sound like the Saudi leadership. Do you want us to cover up our women? Well if you are truly free then trannies are truly free to live among us. FREE. Not persecuted. Not treated like political footballs.

But everyone isn't free. You say the wrong thing and people like might get you fired, or cancelled, or just ******* kill you in the streets.


The cultural progression going on, is not GOOD. It is BAD. and yes as a con i don't like it.

Your pretense that thi is just "trannies" wanting to "live among us", is you lying because you can defend the actual behavior of your side.


WHich has been oppressive and destructive as hell.

And if you are going to ban trannies from buying guns then what happens when a straight white male shoots up a place? You gonna ban straight white males?

"Trannies" are bat shit crazy. Limiting the access of guns for mentally ill people makes sense.

That you are pretending to not get this, is you acting retarded so that you can defend a retarded liberal policy position.

How about you look in the mirror. And look at the GOP. They are dividing us brother. With social bullshit. To distract us from Epstein and this horrible economy. Trump is making the economy for middle class Americans WORSE not better. Oh but give it 2 years. I guess we have to. Meanwhile, they'll try to distract us with social issues.

Your words make no sense. YOU assume the economy is going to be shit and that Trump wants to distract us from that. But who says that Trump agrees with you?

Me? I want this shit to go quiet so we can FOCUS on the RESULTS of Trumps policies.


I think that on some level that is why you and the other leftards are so hysterical.

you believe that the results will be good, so you have to take back control of the narrative BEFORE the results are in, or Trump will RISE in popularity and MAGA will become the new normal for the rest of your lives.

And when is it okay to bomb a boat you THINK is carrying drugs? We're just just accept that? JD Vance doesn't care what we think? YOU ******* NAZIS. Lots of similarities

I don't think you understand how angry we are over here. Whining about that boat, is you just not getting it.

i don't give a **** about that boat.

 

[sealybobo]

Becasue of 1/6? A few hundred rioters, do not define a movement of over a hundred million you fool.

Good point. This shooter doesn't represent the left. Louigi doesn't represent the left. A few shooters does not define a movement of over 100 million.

Trannies typically vote Democratic because Republicans are anti tranny. RIGHT? But that doesn't mean whenever a tranny shoots someone, a Democrat is doing the shooting. At least not a member of the party.

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Good point. This shooter doesn't represent the left. Louigi doesn't represent the left. A few shooters does not define a movement of over 100 million.

The multitudes of leftists, liberals and Democrats cheering the murderers actions, however, -do- represent the left.

 

[sealybobo]

The multitudes of leftists, liberals and Democrats cheering the murderers actions, however, -do- represent the left.

Nope. And me, while I might not completely agree with them, I certainly don't agree with you, or Charlie Kirk. Perhaps if it were Obama or a liberal guy spreading his message you'd say something like "well what did he expect?" He certainly did push people's buttons. I defend his right to do that. Do you defend people's rights to say things you don't agree with? I doubt it.

If you guys go to war with the left, explain to us how that's going to look like. Are you going after our politicians? Is this coordinated? Because the nut who shot Charlie Kirk didn't plan this with anyone. So whoever you go after, you are going after the wrong person. But all you fascists want to do is round up liberals huh? Sounds familiar.

 

[Correll]

Good point. This shooter doesn't represent the left. Louigi doesn't represent the left. A few shooters does not define a movement of over 100 million.

The situations are not the same. 1/6 was a very isolated incident, very different from the normal behavior of MAGA.


The violence from the left has been not only widespread but consistent with the ideological thinking and world view of mainstream dems.


So this shooter DOES represent the left.

Trannies typically vote Democratic because Republicans are anti tranny. RIGHT? But that doesn't mean whenever a tranny shoots someone, a Democrat is doing the shooting. At least not a member of the party.

I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

"Anti-Tranny"?

I would say no. We want "trannies" to get the mental health they need. You leftards want to encourage their madness so you can use them as a political prop.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Nope.

Yep.
You're perfectly comfortable with political violence - so long as the right people get hurt, anyway.

 

[sealybobo]

The situations are not the same. 1/6 was a very isolated incident, very different from the normal behavior of MAGA.


The violence from the left has been not only widespread but consistent with the ideological thinking and world view of mainstream dems.


So this shooter DOES represent the left.






"Anti-Tranny"?

I would say no. We want "trannies" to get the mental health they need. You leftards want to encourage their madness so you can use them as a political prop.

So your shooters don't represent you but people that shoot your leaders represent us. Got it.

Plausible deniability is the ability for someone, often in a position of authority, to credibly deny involvement in an action or event because there's a lack of clear evidence to prove their connection or knowledge. This is achieved by deliberately creating circumstances that allow for a convincing denial, such as issuing vague instructions, avoiding direct knowledge of certain facts, or maintaining a disconnect between themselves and lower-level actors who carry out the actions.

 

[Correll]

So your shooters don't represent you but people that shoot your leaders represent us. Got it.

Yes. Clearly. The two sides are not the same. We are the side of ideas and your side is the one of political violence.

Plausible deniability is the ability for someone, often in a position of authority, to credibly deny involvement in an action or event because there's a lack of clear evidence to prove their connection or knowledge. This is achieved by deliberately creating circumstances that allow for a convincing denial, such as issuing vague instructions, avoiding direct knowledge of certain facts, or maintaining a disconnect between themselves and lower-level actors who carry out the actions.

Correct. As we see from the left all the time. ALL the time.


And more. THe arresting of people for self defense for example, is WAY past plausible deniablity.

That is clear support of the violent street thugs.


But thanks to hte left being all shit talkers, they can actively support violence and at the same time, claim they don't and stonewall and gaslight like MUTHERFUCKERS.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes. Clearly. The two sides are not the same. We are the side of ideas and your side is the one of political violence.






Correct. As we see from the left all the time. ALL the time.


And more. THe arresting of people for self defense for example, is WAY past plausible deniablity.

That is clear support of the violent street thugs.


But thanks to hte left being all shit talkers, they can actively support violence and at the same time, claim they don't and stonewall and gaslight like MUTHERFUCKERS.

Where are you getting this from?

“If you look at the problem, the problem is on the left. It's not on the right, like some people like to share the right, the problem we have is on the left," he said, according to a White House pool report. "And when you look at the agitator, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country, the American flag burning all over the place, that's the left. That's not the right."

He declined to specify which entities he was referring to, however.

“A lot of the people that you would traditionally say are on the left, they're already under investigation," he said.

Sounds a lot like Hitler to me. And you sound like a Nazi.

 

[TimFitz]

All this did was push republicans further away from democrats. No one wants to try and engage in conversation or work with someone who seemingly hates you and wants you dead. Especially when that reason is a matter of beliefs. We could have brought things together, but that requires honest and open discussion. Respect. And no one seems to be interested in that. Instead an individual was assassinated on one side while people from the other openly cheer. I genuinely believe we're past the point of no return. We are not a united nation. And things unfortunately will only get worse.

Actually, that is the narrative that the right jumped high to believe.

They anointed themselves as the victims, and made up a whole range of false claims about the crime and spread them all over the right wing media sewer.

Some here are still trying to justify the lies that either bought or tried to sell.