The End of Palestine

[montelatici]

There is only one path to peace, the full expulsion of Muslims.

Nomadic Desert Bandits

The Paleonasties don't want a state, they want a missile base.

"Paleonasties" that's rather an insulting term for the American government, given Zionist Israel IS a missile base for the Americans.

Oh cool. Now can you name the base that Americans have in Israel?

Israel.

Oh, so now Israel is America's base and ally in the Middle East. I thought you said ppl who support Israel are disloyal to America and Israel-firsters. Which is it?

We have bases in Kuwait, Turkey etc. Israel firsters are more loyal to Israel than to the United States.

 

[American_Jihad]

Translation: It's ok for Jews to go to another continent with the intention colonize and expropriate/steal the land from the native people and the native people cannot resist because the colonizers are Jews.

You can thank yo lefties, commies, etc @ the UN for that...

 

[rhodescholar]

No, Israel attacks and the Palestinians retaliate. Where did you get the idea that the Palestinians started this thing? The Jews came from Europe to bust balls in Palestine.

Translation: The mere presence of Jews is an "attack". And killing Jews is perfectly legit, both morally and in international law, even if they are children sleeping in their beds. All Jews are trespassers and combatants, after all.

Yeah, yeah, we've heard it all before.

When the poster's IQ is REALLY low that piece of shit's, it is to be expected how they will justify any and all terrorism and murder against jews - they are the absolute scum of the earth.

 

[rhodescholar]

Translation: It's ok for Jews to go to another continent with the intention colonize and expropriate/steal the land from the native people and the native people cannot resist because the colonizers are Jews.

The jews ethnically cleansed from arab muslim countries didn't come from another continent, idiot asshole fucking moron.

 

[rhodescholar]

Another Israeli talking point. The Jewish national home was not an allocation of land. It was citizenship in Palestine.

Another piece of shit with no brains nor historical knowledge.

For the non-mentally ill, see: Balfour Declaration, San Remo, United Nations UNGA 181, etc.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

"Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations."

 

[rhodescholar]

Oh, so now Israel is America's base and ally in the Middle East. I thought you said ppl who support Israel are disloyal to America and Israel-firsters. Which is it?

Its the classic set of lies from this group of scumbags; jews are communists like in russia, jews are capitalists like in the US, jews are rich with loads of money, jews are impoverished leeches who want welfare, Israel is a military base for the US, Israel hates the US and is disloyal...the lies and idiocies contradict one another, but these turds lack the brainpower to realize it.

These scumbags claim the jews are outsiders to Israel, but refuse to acknowledge that most of the arab muslims there moved from syria, jordan and egypt - their own surnames come from clans in those 3 countries, but why let facts get in the way of the lies from racist, vile trash?

 

[montelatici]

Translation: It's ok for Jews to go to another continent with the intention colonize and expropriate/steal the land from the native people and the native people cannot resist because the colonizers are Jews.

The jews ethnically cleansed from arab muslim countries didn't come from another continent, idiot asshole fucking moron.

Where is Morocco Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt? Moron.

 

[montelatici]

Oh, so now Israel is America's base and ally in the Middle East. I thought you said ppl who support Israel are disloyal to America and Israel-firsters. Which is it?

Its the classic set of lies from this group of scumbags; jews are communists like in russia, jews are capitalists like in the US, jews are rich with loads of money, jews are impoverished leeches who want welfare, Israel is a military base for the US, Israel hates the US and is disloyal...the lies and idiocies contradict one another, but these turds lack the brainpower to realize it.

These scumbags claim the jews are outsiders to Israel, but refuse to acknowledge that most of the arab muslims there moved from syria, jordan and egypt - their own surnames come from clans in those 3 countries, but why let facts get in the way of the lies from racist, vile trash?

The native Arab Muslims and Christians of Palestine are the people of Palestine that began converting to Christianity with the birth of Jesus Christ and converted entirely to Christianity after 380 AD when Christianity became the state religion of Rome and it became a requirement to be a Christian to reside in Palestine. Palestine was Christian when the Muslims defeated the Romans (Byzantines) and conquered Jerusalem. Are you that ignorant of history? Oh wait.

 

[P F Tinmore]

To the contrary, Palestine is more alive now than it has ever been.

 

[Hollie]

Oh, so now Israel is America's base and ally in the Middle East. I thought you said ppl who support Israel are disloyal to America and Israel-firsters. Which is it?

Its the classic set of lies from this group of scumbags; jews are communists like in russia, jews are capitalists like in the US, jews are rich with loads of money, jews are impoverished leeches who want welfare, Israel is a military base for the US, Israel hates the US and is disloyal...the lies and idiocies contradict one another, but these turds lack the brainpower to realize it.

These scumbags claim the jews are outsiders to Israel, but refuse to acknowledge that most of the arab muslims there moved from syria, jordan and egypt - their own surnames come from clans in those 3 countries, but why let facts get in the way of the lies from racist, vile trash?

The native Arab Muslims and Christians of Palestine are the people of Palestine that began converting to Christianity with the birth of Jesus Christ and converted entirely to Christianity after 380 AD when Christianity became the state religion of Rome and it became a requirement to be a Christian to reside in Palestine. Palestine was Christian when the Muslims defeated the Romans (Byzantines) and conquered Jerusalem. Are you that ignorant of history? Oh wait.

You're quite befuddled. The Pal'istanians were largely descendants of the various invaders / colonizers from Arab nations and those xtians invaders / colonizers / crusaders from Europe.

If you had any knowledge of history, you would know that the Mandate encouraged Jews to immigrate to the area of Pal'istan. What entity invited the xtian invaders?

What a shame you just rattle on with your schoolboy version of invented history.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another Israeli talking point. The Jewish national home was not an allocation of land. It was citizenship in Palestine.

Another piece of shit with no brains nor historical knowledge.

For the non-mentally ill, see: Balfour Declaration, San Remo, United Nations UNGA 181, etc.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

"Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations."

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

 

[Hollie]

Another Israeli talking point. The Jewish national home was not an allocation of land. It was citizenship in Palestine.

Another piece of shit with no brains nor historical knowledge.

For the non-mentally ill, see: Balfour Declaration, San Remo, United Nations UNGA 181, etc.

Milestones: 1945–1952 - Office of the Historian

"Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations."

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

Correct. The Jewish people went on to establish self-determination.

Arabs-Moslems could not and still can not.

Stop whining about Arab-Moslem ineptitude and incompetence.

 

[Shusha]

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

While this is true and we agree on this point -- 181 clearly establishes at the very least the accepted premise of a legal Israel. In other words, 181 clearly acts against your premise that there can be no legal right for Israel to exist.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

While this is true and we agree on this point -- 181 clearly establishes at the very least the accepted premise of a legal Israel. In other words, 181 clearly acts against your premise that there can be no legal right for Israel to exist.

No it didn't.

 

[Shusha]

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

While this is true and we agree on this point -- 181 clearly establishes at the very least the accepted premise of a legal Israel. In other words, 181 clearly acts against your premise that there can be no legal right for Israel to exist.

No it didn't.

181 could not have been written if there is no legal possibility of Israel existing. If Israel is prohibited from existing (for some bizarre reason you have failed to cough up), then the UNGA could not and would not have written of the possibility in 181.

 

[member]

With Trump's help end of palestine is possible...
The End of Palestine
Israel has the opportunity to reclaim its nation.
February 16, 2017
Daniel Greenfield

Palestine is many things. A Roman name and a Cold War lie. Mostly it’s a justification for killing Jews.

Palestine was an old Saudi-Soviet scam which invented a fake nationality for the Arab clans who had invaded and colonized Israel. This big lie transformed the leftist and Islamist terrorists run by them into the liberators of an imaginary nation. Suddenly the efforts of the Muslim bloc and the Soviet bloc to destroy the Jewish State became an undertaking of sympathetically murderous underdogs.

But the Palestine lie is past its sell by date.

What we think of as “Palestinian” terrorism was a low-level conflict pursued by the Arab Socialist states in between their invasions of Israel. After several lost wars, the terrorism was all that remained. Egypt, Syria and the USSR threw in the towel on actually destroying Israel with tanks and jets, but funding terrorism was cheap and low-risk. And the rewards were disproportionate to the cost.

For less than the price of a single jet fighter, Islamic terrorists could strike deep inside Israel while isolating the Jewish State internationally with demands for “negotiations” and “statehood.”

After the Cold War ended, Russia was low on cash and the PLO’s Muslim sugar daddies were tired of paying for Arafat’s wife’s shoe collection and his keffiyah dry cleaning bills.

The terror group was on its last legs. “Palestine” was a dying delusion that didn’t have much of a future.

That’s when Bill Clinton and the flailing left-wing Israeli Labor Party which, unlike its British counterpart, had failed to adapt to the new economic boom, decided to rescue Arafat and create ”Palestine”.

The resulting terrorist disaster killed thousands, scarred two generations of Israelis, isolated the country and allowed Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and other major cities to come under fire for the first time since the major wars. No matter how often Israeli concessions were met with Islamic terrorism, nothing seemed able to shake loose the two-state solution monkey on Israel’s back. Destroying Israel, instantaneously or incrementally, had always been a small price to pay for maintaining the international order.

The same economic forces that were transforming the world after the Cold War had salvaged “Palestine”. Arafat had lost his sponsors in Moscow, but his new sugar daddy’s name was “Globalism”.

...

The “Palestinian Authority”, a shell company of the PLO which is a shell company of the Fatah terrorists, has no economy worth speaking of. It has foreign aid. Its diplomatic achievements are achieved for it by the transnational network of foreign diplomats, the UN, the media and assorted international NGOs. During the last round of “negotiations”, Secretary of State John Kerry even attempted to do the negotiating on behalf of the Palestinian Authority in the talks with Israel.

Take away the transnational order and the Palestinian Authority will need a new sugar daddy. The Saudis are better at promising money than actually delivering it. Russia may decide to take on the job. But it isn’t about to put in the money and resources that the PA has grown used to receiving from us.

Without significant American support, the Palestinian Authority will perish. And the farce will end.

...

The PLO has inflicted a great deal of diplomatic damage on Israel and Hamas has terrorized its major cities. Together they form an existential threat that Israel has allowed to grow under the guise of managing it. The next few years may leave Israel with a deadlier and less predictable struggle.

“Palestine” is dying. Israel didn’t kill it. The fall of the transnational order did. The question is what will take its place. As the nationalist wave sweeps the West, Israel has the opportunity to reclaim its nation.

The End of Palestine

“The End of Palestine”​

"Hamas has named a shadowy militant commander as its new leader in the Gaza Strip, an official media outlet confirmed on Monday, placing one of the Islamic militant group's most hard-line figures in charge of its core power base.


The appointment of Yehiya Sinwar, who was freed by Israel in a 2011 prisoner swap after two decades behind bars, solidifies the takeover of Gaza operations by the armed wing of the group from civilian leaders. The military wing, which controls thousands of fighters and a vast arsenal of rockets, has battled Israel in three wars since Hamas seized Gaza a decade ago.


The militant wing tends to take more hard-line positions toward Israel, while the politicians, who are tasked with improving the difficult living conditions in Gaza, tend to be more pragmatic.


Sinwar's selection was reported by Hamas' Al-Resala news site. A Hamas official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was discussing the group's secretive election process, also confirmed the appointment.


….Sinwar replaces Ismail Haniyeh, who served as the prime minister (“prime minister”)
of Hamas' government following the 2007 takeover of Gaza and remains a top figure in the movement. Haniyeh is now expected to take over as Hamas' supreme leader, replacing Khaled Mashaal, who lives in exile.


Khalil al-Haya, another political hard-liner, was elected as Sinwar's deputy.



Hamas started its elections late last year, and the entire process is expected to be completed within the next two months with the naming of a new political bureau, consisting of representatives from Gaza, the West Bank, exiled Palestinian communities across the Middle East and prisoners held by Israel.



Sinwar, who is in his mid-50s, comes from the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis and was a founder of Hamas' military wing in the 1980s.


Hamas is sworn to Israel's destruction and has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings, shootings and other attacks. It is considered a terrorist group by Israel, the United States and the European Union.


Sinwar was sentenced to four life terms by Israel in 1988 for a series of offenses, including his role as mastermind of the abduction and killing of two Israeli soldiers. During his final years in prison, he was the leader of the hundreds of Hamas prisoners held by Israel.


In 2011, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agreed to release Sinwar, along with about 1,000 other prisoners, in exchange for Gilad Schalit, an Israeli soldier who had been captured by Hamas five years earlier in a cross-border raid.


At the time, Netanyahu was harshly criticized for releasing dozens of prisoners held for involvement in deadly attacks. Israel says Sinwar's brother, Mohammed, was among the masterminds of the soldier's capture and negotiated the prisoner swap.



Sinwar, who rejects any reconciliation with Israel, has quickly restored his power in the movement [right in the “movement”]since his return to Gaza.


He is widely believed to be behind last year's unprecedented killing of another top Hamas commander in an internal power struggle.


Israel captured the Gaza Strip, along with the West Bank and east Jerusalem, in the 1967 Mideast war.


In 2005, Israel decided that its occupation of Gaza, an impoverished, densely populated territory that also borders Egypt, was unsustainable, and it withdrew all of its troops and settlers.



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Two years later, Hamas seized control of the territory after a series of battles with the rival Fatah movement, leaving the Palestinians divided between two governments. Israel and Egypt have maintained a blockade on Gaza since then, and Israel has waged three wars against Hamas, campaigns it says were meant to halt incessant rocket fire on its southern towns.


After a decade of blockade and conflict, Gaza is mired in poverty and widespread destruction. International organizations estimate the unemployment rate is over 40 percent, and the movement of people and goods in and out of the war-battered territory remains restricted.


Israel says the restrictions are needed to keep Hamas from smuggling arms into Gaza. Egypt also has poor ties with Hamas, which shares the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood espoused by former Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, who was ousted by the military in 2013.


Sinwar has rarely appeared in public since a 2014 war with Israel. Ibrahim al-Madhoun, a pro-Hamas analyst who runs a Gaza think tank, said he met Sinwar two months ago and got the impression that he is more interested in improving difficult conditions in Gaza than renewed conflict with Israel.


"He is interested in stability, the rebuilding of Gaza and easing the blockade," al-Madhoun said. "I felt he is more with the truce rather than conflict."


Sinwar has close ties to Qatar and Turkey, two of the few countries that have good relations with Hamas. Al-Madhoun said he also has good ties with Iran, a longtime backer of Hamas.


In a sign of moderation, Sinwar supported a failed 2014 reconciliation agreement with President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement.


Under the deal, Hamas agreed to step aside to create a unity government that would reunite the West Bank and Gaza. But it was never implemented, and Hamas remains the de facto authority in Gaza. Haniyeh is no longer prime minister, but remains involved in Hamas' affairs as ministry officials administer the territory.


Kobi Michael, a former head of the Palestinian Desk at Israel's Ministry for Strategic Affairs, said Sinwar represents "one of the most radical and extreme lines of Hamas" and is focused on building up the group's military capabilities."


"The idea that he was elected is a very dangerous and concerning indication of the destabilization of the region," Michael said.

 

[rylah]

Then there is:

And the woman with the bloody doll wears a Hamas/PLO scarf depicting the whole of Israel and PA territory combined, with the writing:

"Palestine from the river to the sea"

Jews are simply out of equation in their 'solution'...

Where does it say that?

ON YOUR FOREHEAD

OK, I'll take that as "rylah made it up" and as I've said before, Zionists lie, period.

Says a guy who quotes Revisionist Zionists...

"During a 2010 event in Yemen, President Obama's half-brother Malik wore this Hamas keffiyeh featuring the slogans 'Jerusalem is ours -- WE ARE COMING!' and 'From the River to the Sea'"

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I saw another source translating it such.

How would You translate that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Resolution 181 was a non binding General Assembly recommendation. The Security Council never approved or implemented the plan. Resolution 181 didn't happen.

While this is true and we agree on this point -- 181 clearly establishes at the very least the accepted premise of a legal Israel. In other words, 181 clearly acts against your premise that there can be no legal right for Israel to exist.

No it didn't.

181 could not have been written if there is no legal possibility of Israel existing. If Israel is prohibited from existing (for some bizarre reason you have failed to cough up), then the UNGA could not and would not have written of the possibility in 181.

There was a legal possibility. If both sides signed it they would have had a treaty. They would have a legal document. The center of this proposed document was for the Palestinians to cede half of their territory to the Zionists.

Like any other treaty, if it is not signed by both parties, they have nothing. The Palestinians did not cede any territory to create a Jewish state.

 

[montelatici]

Then there is:

And the woman with the bloody doll wears a Hamas/PLO scarf depicting the whole of Israel and PA territory combined, with the writing:

"Palestine from the river to the sea"

Jews are simply out of equation in their 'solution'...

Where does it say that?

ON YOUR FOREHEAD

OK, I'll take that as "rylah made it up" and as I've said before, Zionists lie, period.

Says a guy who quotes Revisionist Zionists...

"During a 2010 event in Yemen, President Obama's half-brother Malik wore this Hamas keffiyeh featuring the slogans 'Jerusalem is ours -- WE ARE COMING!' and 'From the River to the Sea'"

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I saw another source translating it such.

How would You translate that?

And your point is?

 

[rhodescholar]

Where is Morocco Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt? Moron.

C-nt idiot asshole, are those places thousands of miles away, c-nt? Are they, fucking retarded asshole? Buy a map, dogshit. Keep deflecting, animal scumbag.