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Weren't there a whole bunch of articles written two years ago about the end of conservatism?
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I think it's cute how certain people act like "liberalism" is a relatively new and fleeting concept that can be killed off by "conservatism".
You guys should get baseball jerseys and hats made up that say "Liberals" and "Conservatives" on them so you have something to wear as your cheer on your winning teams during election season.
Rather than the sports analogy, I kinda likened the last election to the baptism scene:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FaHZDzB8MA[/ame]
Weren't there a whole bunch of articles written two years ago about the end of conservatism?
Weren't there a whole bunch of articles written two years ago about the end of conservatism?
Too late...Rik-o beat you to it (post #5) and I gave him a rep for it.
I doubt it, Jefferson was for public education, he increased the role of the government, and funded science and technology. Plus he wasn't a religious person. He would have either been somewhat of Goldwater conservative, but he would have no place in the republican party of the present.I think it's cute how certain people act like "liberalism" is a relatively new and fleeting concept that can be killed off by "conservatism".
However? Liberalism as known today bears NO resemblence of it's creator here in America...Jefferson, but Modern Day Liberalism reflects that of Marx, Alinsky, and other Leftist Boobs.
Jefferson was no boob, but would be a Conservative in today's parlence.
I think it's cute how certain people act like "liberalism" is a relatively new and fleeting concept that can be killed off by "conservatism".
You guys should get baseball jerseys and hats made up that say "Liberals" and "Conservatives" on them so you have something to wear as your cheer on your winning teams during election season.
Rather than the sports analogy, I kinda likened the last election to the baptism scene:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FaHZDzB8MA[/ame]
Just as I likened the last two elections to it?
Americans will be bickering about this same shit when you and I are dust and bones.
That is, if we are lucky.
I think it's cute how certain people act like "liberalism" is a relatively new and fleeting concept that can be killed off by "conservatism".
But I figured that we'd keep a few liberals in a zoo, you know, so we could throw peanuts at 'em...
When we are dust and bones "... if we are lucky..."?????
That would be luck to you?
Hey, don't take the OP so seriously!
But I figured that we'd keep a few liberals in a zoo, you know, so we could throw peanuts at 'em...
When we are dust and bones "... if we are lucky..."?????
That would be luck to you?
Hey, don't take the OP so seriously!
I suppose you missed my point.
Let me spell it out for you:
We have the luxury of sitting on our asses and arguing politics through an electronic medium in this country, because things aren't, relatively speaking, really that bad.
If we, as a nation, are lucky; we will continue to be in that position for many years to come. Long after you and I are dead.
Some day people will realize that true Liberals are few in numbers for now but believe it or not,they are on the rise once again. Their numbers are increasing once again amongst Libertarians and real Conservatives. Most people still equate Liberals with also being Socialists/Progressives. This just isn't the case. The two are very different. Socialists/Progressives do not stand up for your rights. They truly believe in the State ruling your life. True Liberals would fight to the death for individual Freedom & Liberty. That philosophy is actually more in line with Libertarianism and real Conservatism. People just need to stop confusing Socialists/Progressives with Liberals. I think this will happen at some point. They'll catch on.
But I figured that we'd keep a few liberals in a zoo, you know, so we could throw peanuts at 'em...
When we are dust and bones "... if we are lucky..."?????
That would be luck to you?
Hey, don't take the OP so seriously!
I suppose you missed my point.
Let me spell it out for you:
We have the luxury of sitting on our asses and arguing politics through an electronic medium in this country, because things aren't, relatively speaking, really that bad.
If we, as a nation, are lucky; we will continue to be in that position for many years to come. Long after you and I are dead.
I saw Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press a few weeks back saying that there is no way we should be cutting social security, which stunned me.
So, when a standard bearer of the Right is defending SS as sacrosanct, "the death of liberalism" is greatly exaggerated.
(Though I'm sure some conservatard would call Newt a "RINO.")
True Liberalism has certainly faded but it's not dead. True Liberalism actually lives on in Libertarians and real Conservatives.
I saw Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press a few weeks back saying that there is no way we should be cutting social security, which stunned me.
So, when a standard bearer of the Right is defending SS as sacrosanct, "the death of liberalism" is greatly exaggerated.
(Though I'm sure some conservatard would call Newt a "RINO.")
Besides yourself, who has suggested "cutting social security"?
*rolls eyes* Whatever, neocon. If this is true, you might as well just declare this a corporate oligarchy and pave the entire country over to be a Wal-Mart parking lot. What righty blog did you get this off of, anyway? Ann Coulter. Pfft.
PS. LOVE how you continue to bandy around the whole Marxist/Communist crap. Sheesh. Get some new talky points, why don't you?
I saw Newt Gingrich on Meet the Press a few weeks back saying that there is no way we should be cutting social security, which stunned me.
So, when a standard bearer of the Right is defending SS as sacrosanct, "the death of liberalism" is greatly exaggerated.
(Though I'm sure some conservatard would call Newt a "RINO.")
Besides yourself, who has suggested "cutting social security"?
Are you taking the position that preserving Social Security is now a mainstream conservative point of view?
See? That's the point I just made.