The end is near for North Korea

What action will be taken against NOKO

  • Option # 3. Full capitulation to NOKO and withdrawal of US forces from Asia.

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The parallels are uncanny.....Option # 5 All out destruction of NOKO, their Capital and Military!
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Yep....that would be one uncanny parallel. It would make the U.S. the only nation on the planet to use nuclear weapons, and not once will we have done so, but twice. If Trump takes that tack, the rest of the world would be justified in thinking that the problem isn't that other nations acquire nuclear weapons, but rather that the U.S. already has them and has a president who has no particular reservation about using them.

Though KJU is crazy, it's far from clear that Trump isn't crazier. Additionally, it is ridiculous that Trump has perpetuated the policy whereby the DPRK has, in the global "conversation," been given a "voice" well beyond what it deserves. Does nobody these days know how to "sit children either at the kiddie table," or, more fitting frankly for both Trump and KJU, "in the corner" and let their littles asses suffer the obloquy of sequestration?
That the USA is willing to use Nukes, might not be a bad thing. By that I mean, all these wannabe's can forget an entry level program when the USA has 2600 warheads and is willing to use them. Russia has the same by treaty.
WE have no way of knowing what is really taking place, and can only guess, but calling world leaders children only shows your lack of understanding. Neither Trump or KJU act alone.
The fact that one happens to be a head of state or other political leader in no way precludes one from being childish.

calling world leaders children only shows your lack of understanding.
If you think I was literally calling anyone a child -- and clearly you do given your statement -- you haven't a strong enough command of English to read my posts. (I'm not chiding you for that being so. I'm merely pointing out that it likely is so.) You should probably add me to your ignore list; it'll be good for us both and it's something we mutually can do to improve our USMB experience.
Does nobody these days know how to "sit children either at the kiddie table," or, more fitting frankly for both Trump and KJU, "in the corner" and let their littles asses suffer the obloquy of sequestration?
In addition to the convenient reference link just above, you may also find this interesting reading: "The Scare Quote: 2016 in a Punctuation Mark."
I deal in reality Xelor. What is childish is your view of a world you know little of!
Well, you should perhaps, then, have a conversation with Trump about what maturity is. Among other things, it includes not making claims on which one cannot or will not follow through.
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
 
View attachment 137078 Today, President Trump is faced with the need to destroy North Korea, and murder at least a million people who follow a Cult that has taken over their country. This is nothing new! President Truman faced the same decision in 1945. To murder a million Japanese who followed a Cult willing to fight to the last person.

The parallels are uncanny. Truman was newly in office, as Trump is newly in office. Harry had the fact we were at war on his side, but I don't think that made the decision any less difficult.
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Lets look at the choices facing Trump, and of course America.




NOKO continues to improve its ability to wreak havoc on the world. They continually express their intention to develop Nuclear weapons that can destroy cities and kill millions of people in the most horrible way.. To what end? This is not defense, it is aggression. No assurance from China or USA, or South Korea will placate their paranoia.

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If they just shot rockets into the ocean like petulant children, this might be tolerable for the short term. But they have declared that as soon as they have perfected long range missiles, they will begin full scale production. To what end? Can the world afford to wait and see? Are the missiles for sale to Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, ISIS Caliphate? CAN THE WORLD/USA AFFORD TO SPECULATE?



Option # 1. Wait and see what happens. Perhaps Kim Jong Un – stable will. Be removed in a coup. Not very likely he has murdered his older brother, Uncles, and any Military leaders he see's as a threat.



Option # 2. The Chinese will invade. A possibility if they see USA takeover as inevitable. But the constant left opposition to Trump and talk of impeachment keeps them in doubt Trump will act!



Option # 3. Full capitulation to NOKO and withdrawal of US forces from Asia. Fortress America has been rejected every time it is proposed. We are the world, and sooner or later get drawn into it's war's. This is the least likely option based on America's new agression policy.



Option # 4. A limited Military strike by USA, S. Korea, Japan and Taiwan. Not a good idea as this would strengthen the NOKO resolve that they must fight to survive, and USA is not ready for another prolonged WAR, where thousands die.

4A. But it is possible to destroy their missiles and Nuclear facilities, and totally annihilate Pyongyang, killing most of the Command Generals and hopefully Jong Un. It is questionable that there is adequate command in the field to act against the South. Most of the High Command prefers the luxury of Pyongyang. That vaunted Artillery the Media keeps referring to, is WWII surplus that can reach the DMZ, but not Seoul, and if activated can be taken out with carpet bombing B-1 bombers. It is not Seoul that is in danger, it is the 30,000 troops we have on the ground in the DMZ. If you see a sudden troop movement or evacuation, you will know this is the option chosen

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Option # 5 All out destruction of NOKO, their Capital and Military! Truman had the same option, to spare Japanese civilian lives and spend American lives in a street by street, city by city conflict that would also kill civilians and prolong the war, or drop a Nuclear bomb. We know the choice he made.

Trump has the same option. ONE MX-Peacekeeper ICBM with 10 warheads could destroy Pyongyang, the Nuclear facilities in the North, and the Military in the South. No American casualties, but an environmental mess that would leave half NOKO uninhabitable, not to mention radiation contamination of parts of Russia and China, as well as SOKO.

NO. Nuclear weapons are a doomsday option only.

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The most likely action will come from our bases in Okinawa, cruise missiles from Submarines already in position an B-1 bombers already in position in SOKO that have mapped the 38th parallel and targeted the ground forces positions.



The result will be destruction of NOKO, greater than Dresden and Hiroshima combined.



Make no mistake! USA coalition has all the forces needed in place. All that is needed is a consensuses by Japan, SOKO, China and Russia, that all options are expended, or a misdirected missile by NOKO.



As Presidents, Trump and Truman have no choice but to be the murderers of millions.

Trump has to be wondering, “What the hell was I thinking, taking this job?”






Of course the LEFT will say it was done to take attention away from the Russia investigation, but those idiots would say that ISIS is no threat, or Trump should be impeached anyway.
The liars in the media will play Trump as a monster who wagged the Dog, and the world will condemn the USA as blood thirsty murderers!

It is questionable if China took any action against NOKO. In any event it had no affect as two more missiles have been launched since. As I stated, the idiot left gives hope to America's enemies that Trump has been neutralized and will not act. But USA is still under UN mandate to unite the two Korea's. The current cease fire has always been tenuous, and all Trump need do is notify Congress of his actions AFTER the bombs fall.
The only incentive China has, is to maintain their advantage in trade over the USA. They already have their troupes in place to prevent a mass migration.

There is enough fire power in place to destroy all missiles and artillery of NOKO. If 1 or 2 survived and were launched, the THAAD system is in place to take them down. The WWII artillery and tanks on the border will all be destroyed by B-1 bombers.



Every location is mapped and any movement tracked by satellite! U-2 flights have been mapping everything NOKO does. You remember them from the Cold War days. Well they still have the best areal reconnaissance capability of any system.
The purpose of using the MOAB bomb on Afghanistan, was to show NOKO that their underground launch facilities were easy targets.
1. Stealth B-2 and F-22 will take out all electricity and radar.
2. F-35 with night vision will destroy all NOKO aircraft.
3. All mobile missiles will be destroyed by Tomahawk cruise missiles.
4. All NOKO ground forces near the 38th. parallel will be destroyed by B-1 low altitude bombers.
5. All underground missile locations will be destroyed by MOAB's droped by high altitude B-52, B-1 and B-2's.

What is left of NOKO will be destroyed by SOKO aircraft and carrier based forces. This will be a massive slaughter made necessary by NOKO willingness to sacrifice their people. The left will call Trump a war criminal and demand he be tried in world court, but that will be after one million are dead!
SOKO will have a massive cleanup after reunification, but it will create a new rival of China.

IT IS A BIG GAMBLE! Does NOKO have hidden agents with dirty bombs in the worlds capitals? A new face of terror!


Please provide a link with the OP. THAI EXPAT
I pick the first option while the pentagon works stringently on implementing an accurate missile defense system which will allow the U.S. to shoot them down. But in the long run, America needs to get the best hackers money can buy to either fizzle the missiles out before lift off or even better, have them circle the country and then return to their place of origin where they'll then explode on contact. Muhahaha!
We tried, but NOKO has hackers too! Sometimes the only way to prevent Evil, is to physically destroy it! Reality is a bitch!
The Pentagon Has Been Secretly Hacking Kim Jong-un's Missiles

dailycaller.com/2017/03/04/the-pentagons-been-secretly-hacking-kim-jong-uns-missiles

Mar 4, 2017 ... The U.S. is reportedly engaging in a cyber warfare campaign against North Korea's missile program. Three years ago, the White House ...

Is The Pentagon Hacking Kim Jong-un's Missile | The Daily Caller
dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/is-the-pentagon-hacking-kim-jong-uns-missiles

Apr 24, 2017 ... Is the U.S. hacking North Korean missiles? If it is, the operation does not appear to be overwhelmingly successful.

US Cyber Attack "Sabotaged Kim's Missile Launch", Former British ...
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/us-cyber-attack-sabotaged-kims-missile-launch-former-british-foreign-secretary-claim

Apr 16, 2017 ... US Cyber Attack "Sabotaged Kim's Missile Launch", Former British Foreign Secretary .... Just hack the guidence and turn it back on them.

Is the United States Really Blowing Up North Korea's Missiles ...
foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/19/the-united-states-isnt-hacking-north-koreas-missile-launches

Apr 19, 2017 ... Correlation is not causation, of course, and a simple review of North Korea's missile launches suggests that if the United States is hacking North ...
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?
Hmm, did Timmy sell the man the gun like we sold NK nuclear reactors?
Did we sell him a car so he could run over people? Come on!

We did, come on! Two years before we placed them on an "axis of evil" list.
 
U.S. now believes North Korea tested an ICBM last night, U.S. officials say. President Trump spent nearly 4 hours at his golf course today.

When that tires out his fat ass... off to watch his 5 hours of TV for the day.
DT: stealing money and shirking his responsibility as president..
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?
Hmm, did Timmy sell the man the gun like we sold NK nuclear reactors?
Did we sell him a car so he could run over people? Come on!

We did, come on! Two years before we placed them on an "axis of evil" list.
You didn't understand my comment Fenton. A reactor can be used for good or evil. A car can be used for good or evil. The mistake was giving an Evil Cult the means to live peacefully!
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?
Hmm, did Timmy sell the man the gun like we sold NK nuclear reactors?
Did we sell him a car so he could run over people? Come on!

We did, come on! Two years before we placed them on an "axis of evil" list.
You didn't understand my comment Fenton. A reactor can be used for good or evil. A car can be used for good or evil. The mistake was giving an Evil Cult the means to live peacefully!

Uh huh, and those international law wise illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, that we provide the Wahabist Saudis to rain down on Yemen; good? "Evil"? How's that advancing "peace"?

Nuclear reactors sold to NK from a company Rumsfeld had once sat on the board of directors of. Two years before they, NK, became "evil" I suppose.
 
wow this jerk who ran from America,but yet lectures everyone on what is an American.....is now a N.Korean expert too...what a guy....
Yes Harry. There is a big world out there you know nothing of. Educating you is like trying to teach a pig to dance. All you can do is grunt stupidity. I don't have to be an expert in anything to amaze you. Do yourself a favor and ignore my posts as you ignore life.
Thinking just upsets you!
its funny how you get more opposition to the bullshit you put up then people agreeing with you....maybe its you grunting the stupidity....
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
wow this jerk who ran from America,but yet lectures everyone on what is an American.....is now a N.Korean expert too...what a guy....
Yes Harry. There is a big world out there you know nothing of. Educating you is like trying to teach a pig to dance. All you can do is grunt stupidity. I don't have to be an expert in anything to amaze you. Do yourself a favor and ignore my posts as you ignore life.
Thinking just upsets you!
its funny how you get more opposition to the bullshit you put up then people agreeing with you....maybe its you grunting the stupidity....
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
people who are full of themselves are usually full of shit....and on that you lead the pack....
Are you capable of nothing but personal attack? There is a lot to think about and comment on, in my article, and all you are capable of is personal attack.
I'm not seeing anything from you that sets you apart from those you decry, can we look forward to any of that? Or no, this will be it?
 
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
people who are full of themselves are usually full of shit....and on that you lead the pack....
Are you capable of nothing but personal attack? There is a lot to think about and comment on, in my article, and all you are capable of is personal attack.
i dont have nice things to say to pussies who say they ran from this country when things were not going their way and then have the balls to say maybe after those of us still here improve things you may come back.....fuck you asshole.....

You're going to improve things? Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ......
I only want to improve myself.
Perhaps you might focus on that then, instead of thinking you're of such a state you will improve others with this shyte. And I'm only laughing at you.

As your fans have suggested, ".....fuck you asshole.....".

North Korea, sold 'em nuclear reactors.
 
View attachment 137078 Today, President Trump is faced with the need to destroy North Korea, and murder at least a million people who follow a Cult that has taken over their country. This is nothing new! President Truman faced the same decision in 1945. To murder a million Japanese who followed a Cult willing to fight to the last person.

The parallels are uncanny.]

Except of course- the small fact that
a) Japan had actually attacked the United States- and had been fighting the United States for 4 years and
b) The United States and Japan were actually at war.

Neither is true right now.

China will not invade- China doesn't care for North Korea but isn't going to dance to America's tune either- China will work for its own interest.

North Korea will not capitulate

The United States might attack- with South Korea assistance- but Japan and Taiwan will not participate. Japan because it can't within its own constitution- and Taiwan won't be invited because of China.

The 'all out destruction'? That could only be by nukes. Any danger about lobbing nukes onto North Korea- a short distance from China?

There are no good answers- but murdering a few million people- including South Koreans, Japanese and American troops seems at this time to be one of the very least good ones.
 
But USA is still under UN mandate to unite the two Korea's. The current cease fire has always been tenuous, and all Trump need do is notify Congress of his actions AFTER the bombs fall.]

Well that is a scary thought.

You okay with Trump being able to send America to war with North Korea without either Congressional approval or the approval of the American people?
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?

Who's pointing a gun at us ?

NK can barely get a rocket off the pad. Meanwhile we have 10,000 troops on their border , and we have that little history of invading and threatening them.

And people get upset when they pursue a rocket program ?
 
Yes Harry. There is a big world out there you know nothing of. Educating you is like trying to teach a pig to dance. All you can do is grunt stupidity. I don't have to be an expert in anything to amaze you. Do yourself a favor and ignore my posts as you ignore life.
Thinking just upsets you!
its funny how you get more opposition to the bullshit you put up then people agreeing with you....maybe its you grunting the stupidity....
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
Yes Harry. There is a big world out there you know nothing of. Educating you is like trying to teach a pig to dance. All you can do is grunt stupidity. I don't have to be an expert in anything to amaze you. Do yourself a favor and ignore my posts as you ignore life.
Thinking just upsets you!
its funny how you get more opposition to the bullshit you put up then people agreeing with you....maybe its you grunting the stupidity....
Or maybe there are more stupid people on this site, than thinking ones. And you lead the stupid!
people who are full of themselves are usually full of shit....and on that you lead the pack....
Are you capable of nothing but personal attack? There is a lot to think about and comment on, in my article, and all you are capable of is personal attack.
i dont have nice things to say to pussies who say they ran from this country when things were not going their way and then have the balls to say maybe after those of us still here improve things you may come back.....fuck you asshole.....
they ran from this country when things were not going their way
Perhaps I missed a part of the discussion? Did THAI EXPAT attest to having "[run] from [the U.S.] when [/because] things were not going [his] way?"

I want to be sure he did, for being an expat and having been expatriated (voluntarily or not) are similar in only the most superficial sense: in both instances one doesn't currently live in the country whereof one is/was a citizen.
 
But USA is still under UN mandate to unite the two Korea's. The current cease fire has always been tenuous, and all Trump need do is notify Congress of his actions AFTER the bombs fall.]

Well that is a scary thought.

You okay with Trump being able to send America to war with North Korea without either Congressional approval or the approval of the American people?
Thank you for an intelligent question. It is not up to me, or you!

War Powers Act | United States [1973]
The act sought to restrain the president’s ability to commit U.S. forces overseas by requiring the executive branch to consult with and report to Congress before involving U.S. forces in foreign hostilities. Widely considered a measure for preventing “future Vietnams,” it was nonetheless generally resisted or ignored by subsequent presidents, many of whom regarded it as an unconstitutional usurpation of their executive authority. Since the passage of this joint resolution, presidents have tended to take actions that have been “consistent with” rather than “pursuant to” the provisions of the act—in some cases, seeking congressional approval for military action without invoking the law itself. Members of Congress have complained that they have not been given timely notification of or sufficient details regarding some military engagements. Some legislators have gone to court (unsuccessfully) to seek adjudication of what they believe to have been violations of the act. Increasingly, presidents have identified resolutions taken by the United Nations or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization as justification for military intervention.
 
Military action will not, and should not, be taken until NK attacks first. It is unlikely IMHO that NK will take such action considering that their destruction would be guaranteed if they did and even if Un is crazy enough to commit suicide I am not so sure that his top generals are so eager to do so.

A military solution is simply untenable with the resulting destruction of millions of people in SK being a given in any military scenario. Whatever weapons NK is or is not developing, they have the largest artillery capability in the world and all of it will target Sol.

Agreed.
America was once probably in a position to take on NK but that time has passed especially with the profound growth in China's military might.
And let;s not forget the Korean conflict. America does not have a clear history of decisive victories in major conflicts against technically advanced and militarily formidable adversaries since WWII.

Nikki Haley's speech sounded good to American ears, but actually meant nothing. I seriously doubt we are going to war with NK.

The US has a massive advantage over NK in air power for certain. But China's willingness to sit back while America wages an air war on it's doorstep is doubtful since China would never accept another Democratic nation as it's neighbor. Then there's the Russia angle. Too much at risk.
I don't think there is any military option in spite of the Pentagons assertions.

It seems Americas only option is to develop defensive technologies and render nuclear attack moot. Considering the proliferation of nuclear weapons among hostile nations, it seems that that had best be a number one priority for the USA. Unfortunately, any chance of that will die with each Democrat grip on power.

Eventually, there will be another world war. Human nature....or mistake....we've come close a number of times.
If you are a baby boomer, (or older) be grateful. You probably enjoyed the last generation of a peaceful world for a long time to come.
Between radiological disasters, the emergence of MRSA strains of bacteria, hostile nations become nuclear powers, the loss of domestic tranquility etc.....I doubt the world will be as nice a place to live over the next 100 years as it was the last 100.
 
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No war!

Let Kim stew in his juices.
Agreed. The Chinese have mastered the art of war. If they aren't afraid why should we be?

Maybe Trump should tell China we're going to stop trading with them and renig on the debt we owe them.

Are we sure we can beat Russia, china, North Korea and the middle East?
 
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