The end is near for North Korea

What action will be taken against NOKO

  • Option # 3. Full capitulation to NOKO and withdrawal of US forces from Asia.

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One thing that scares me is that Trump inordinately desires the approbation of "everyone." It's not at all clear to me that he'd not engage the U.S. in a war with the DPRK so as to gain the popularity boost that typically accompanies presidents' taking military action. I hope the people around him would successfully disabuse him of any such notions, but I have no way to be sure they can.
 
View attachment 137078 Today, President Trump is faced with the need to destroy North Korea, and murder at least a million people who follow a Cult that has taken over their country. This is nothing new! President Truman faced the same decision in 1945. To murder a million Japanese who followed a Cult willing to fight to the last person.

The parallels are uncanny. Truman was newly in office, as Trump is newly in office. Harry had the fact we were at war on his side, but I don't think that made the decision any less difficult.
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Lets look at the choices facing Trump, and of course America.




NOKO continues to improve its ability to wreak havoc on the world. They continually express their intention to develop Nuclear weapons that can destroy cities and kill millions of people in the most horrible way.. To what end? This is not defense, it is aggression. No assurance from China or USA, or South Korea will placate their paranoia.

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If they just shot rockets into the ocean like petulant children, this might be tolerable for the short term. But they have declared that as soon as they have perfected long range missiles, they will begin full scale production. To what end? Can the world afford to wait and see? Are the missiles for sale to Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, ISIS Caliphate? CAN THE WORLD/USA AFFORD TO SPECULATE?



Option # 1. Wait and see what happens. Perhaps Kim Jong Un – stable will. Be removed in a coup. Not very likely he has murdered his older brother, Uncles, and any Military leaders he see's as a threat.



Option # 2. The Chinese will invade. A possibility if they see USA takeover as inevitable. But the constant left opposition to Trump and talk of impeachment keeps them in doubt Trump will act!



Option # 3. Full capitulation to NOKO and withdrawal of US forces from Asia. Fortress America has been rejected every time it is proposed. We are the world, and sooner or later get drawn into it's war's. This is the least likely option based on America's new agression policy.



Option # 4. A limited Military strike by USA, S. Korea, Japan and Taiwan. Not a good idea as this would strengthen the NOKO resolve that they must fight to survive, and USA is not ready for another prolonged WAR, where thousands die.

4A. But it is possible to destroy their missiles and Nuclear facilities, and totally annihilate Pyongyang, killing most of the Command Generals and hopefully Jong Un. It is questionable that there is adequate command in the field to act against the South. Most of the High Command prefers the luxury of Pyongyang. That vaunted Artillery the Media keeps referring to, is WWII surplus that can reach the DMZ, but not Seoul, and if activated can be taken out with carpet bombing B-1 bombers. It is not Seoul that is in danger, it is the 30,000 troops we have on the ground in the DMZ. If you see a sudden troop movement or evacuation, you will know this is the option chosen

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Option # 5 All out destruction of NOKO, their Capital and Military! Truman had the same option, to spare Japanese civilian lives and spend American lives in a street by street, city by city conflict that would also kill civilians and prolong the war, or drop a Nuclear bomb. We know the choice he made.

Trump has the same option. ONE MX-Peacekeeper ICBM with 10 warheads could destroy Pyongyang, the Nuclear facilities in the North, and the Military in the South. No American casualties, but an environmental mess that would leave half NOKO uninhabitable, not to mention radiation contamination of parts of Russia and China, as well as SOKO.

NO. Nuclear weapons are a doomsday option only.

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The most likely action will come from our bases in Okinawa, cruise missiles from Submarines already in position an B-1 bombers already in position in SOKO that have mapped the 38th parallel and targeted the ground forces positions.



The result will be destruction of NOKO, greater than Dresden and Hiroshima combined.



Make no mistake! USA coalition has all the forces needed in place. All that is needed is a consensuses by Japan, SOKO, China and Russia, that all options are expended, or a misdirected missile by NOKO.



As Presidents, Trump and Truman have no choice but to be the murderers of millions.

Trump has to be wondering, “What the hell was I thinking, taking this job?”






Of course the LEFT will say it was done to take attention away from the Russia investigation, but those idiots would say that ISIS is no threat, or Trump should be impeached anyway.
The liars in the media will play Trump as a monster who wagged the Dog, and the world will condemn the USA as blood thirsty murderers!

It is questionable if China took any action against NOKO. In any event it had no affect as two more missiles have been launched since. As I stated, the idiot left gives hope to America's enemies that Trump has been neutralized and will not act. But USA is still under UN mandate to unite the two Korea's. The current cease fire has always been tenuous, and all Trump need do is notify Congress of his actions AFTER the bombs fall.
The only incentive China has, is to maintain their advantage in trade over the USA. They already have their troupes in place to prevent a mass migration.

There is enough fire power in place to destroy all missiles and artillery of NOKO. If 1 or 2 survived and were launched, the THAAD system is in place to take them down. The WWII artillery and tanks on the border will all be destroyed by B-1 bombers.



Every location is mapped and any movement tracked by satellite! U-2 flights have been mapping everything NOKO does. You remember them from the Cold War days. Well they still have the best areal reconnaissance capability of any system.
The purpose of using the MOAB bomb on Afghanistan, was to show NOKO that their underground launch facilities were easy targets.
1. Stealth B-2 and F-22 will take out all electricity and radar.
2. F-35 with night vision will destroy all NOKO aircraft.
3. All mobile missiles will be destroyed by Tomahawk cruise missiles.
4. All NOKO ground forces near the 38th. parallel will be destroyed by B-1 low altitude bombers.
5. All underground missile locations will be destroyed by MOAB's droped by high altitude B-52, B-1 and B-2's.

What is left of NOKO will be destroyed by SOKO aircraft and carrier based forces. This will be a massive slaughter made necessary by NOKO willingness to sacrifice their people. The left will call Trump a war criminal and demand he be tried in world court, but that will be after one million are dead!
SOKO will have a massive cleanup after reunification, but it will create a new rival of China.

IT IS A BIG GAMBLE! Does NOKO have hidden agents with dirty bombs in the worlds capitals? A new face of terror!


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I pick the first option while the pentagon works stringently on implementing an accurate missile defense system which will allow the U.S. to shoot them down. But in the long run, America needs to get the best hackers money can buy to either fizzle the missiles out before lift off or even better, have them circle the country and then return to their place of origin where they'll then explode on contact. Muhahaha!

What makes you think any of the computers are now going to be accessible from the Internet?
 
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NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?

Who's pointing a gun at us ?

NK can barely get a rocket off the pad. Meanwhile we have 10,000 troops on their border , and we have that little history of invading and threatening them.

And people get upset when they pursue a rocket program ?

They got off the pad on the 4th!

Only 10,000 troops? You need an update!

We invaded NK only after they invaded the south.

Why are you so intent on proving how bug a dumbass you are?
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?

Who's pointing a gun at us ?

NK can barely get a rocket off the pad. Meanwhile we have 10,000 troops on their border , and we have that little history of invading and threatening them.

And people get upset when they pursue a rocket program ?

They got off the pad on the 4th!

Only 10,000 troops? You need an update!

We invaded NK only after they invaded the south.

Why are you so intent on proving how bug a dumbass you are?

Well that's much worse !

Why the hell do we accept that it's just a given that we are in the front line of foreign bullshit .
 
1. Forget using nukes against NoKo. The fallout would eventually kill tens of thousands in S. Korea.

2. Very powerful simultaneous strikes against NoKo positions north of Seoul, NoKo missile & nuke facilities, and NoKo troops just north of the DMZ should disable NoKo's offensive capabilities.

3. Follow up #2 with a limited invasion of NoKo, taking the high ground north of Seoul and pushing them back from the DMZ.

4. Watch the Chinese pitch a fit, but do nothing.
 
We have the capability to shoot down anything the fat boy can throw at us.

Presently, that's wishful thinking. It's been alluded that we have tools for doing so.

It's a fact we have tools for doing so.



So, do you not believe U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley's statement: "Make no mistake. North Korea's launch of an ICBM is a clear and sharp....?" I for one don't think someone in her position would say "North Korea's launch of and [sic] ICBM" if North Korea didn't launch an ICBM. Had Trump said it, I'd be skeptical -- every word that man utters must be carefully fact checked -- but I don't think everyone he's emplaced in his Administration is as prevaricating as he.

To qualify as an ICBM by military standards, the missile must travel at a velocity of 5 to 10 km/sec. There is no data yet saying North Korea achieved this milestone.
 
NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?

Who's pointing a gun at us ?

NK can barely get a rocket off the pad. Meanwhile we have 10,000 troops on their border , and we have that little history of invading and threatening them.

And people get upset when they pursue a rocket program ?

They got off the pad on the 4th!

Only 10,000 troops? You need an update!

We invaded NK only after they invaded the south.

Why are you so intent on proving how bug a dumbass you are?

Well that's much worse !

Why the hell do we accept that it's just a given that we are in the front line of foreign bullshit .

Timmy, go back and play with your blocks. Who is Kim threatening? Us or was it South Africa?

You are obviously either a middle school kid, an adult with a traumatic brain injury, or a senior citizen with dementia. Let the adults discuss this in piece without your spewing stupid all over everyone!
 
In what universe would NK fire a missle at the USA ?
 
1. Forget using nukes against NoKo. The fallout would eventually kill tens of thousands in S. Korea.

2. Very powerful simultaneous strikes against NoKo positions north of Seoul, NoKo missile & nuke facilities, and NoKo troops just north of the DMZ should disable NoKo's offensive capabilities.

3. Follow up #2 with a limited invasion of NoKo, taking the high ground north of Seoul and pushing them back from the DMZ.

4. Watch the Chinese pitch a fit, but do nothing.


#1 Agreed!

#2 With what? Do you guys have a secret stash of the US military somewhere that no one in the world knows about?

#3 With what? You don't think the Chinese won't react the same way they did in the 1950s?

#4 Already covered in #3
 
In what universe would NK fire a missle at the USA ?
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NK is not our problem. Why do we always get sucked into bullshit across the globe .
How did you come to that conclusion Timmy? If a man points a gun at you, is it your problem?

Who's pointing a gun at us ?

NK can barely get a rocket off the pad. Meanwhile we have 10,000 troops on their border , and we have that little history of invading and threatening them.

And people get upset when they pursue a rocket program ?

They got off the pad on the 4th!

Only 10,000 troops? You need an update!

We invaded NK only after they invaded the south.

Why are you so intent on proving how bug a dumbass you are?

Well that's much worse !

Why the hell do we accept that it's just a given that we are in the front line of foreign bullshit .

Timmy, go back and play with your blocks. Who is Kim threatening? Us or was it South Africa?

You are obviously either a middle school kid, an adult with a traumatic brain injury, or a senior citizen with dementia. Let the adults discuss this in piece without your spewing stupid all over everyone!

Oh be honest . The US is threatening NK . In North Korea does the typical saber rattling. Just j and North Korea does the typical saber rattling. Just airmail him some food and Hell shut the hell up.
 
In what universe would NK fire a missle at the USA ?

Crazy town, which is where Little Kim lives! You should know! That's your address too!

You're just another stupid rube who will Falls for the constant rotation of boogie men that keeps Americans distracted. Why do you think he's crazy? Because that's what the government tells you?
 
I'd wait and see. If Kim is intent on striking the U.S. then I wouldn't expect him to be telegraphing his punches. Seems to me his message is geared more towards internal North Koreans as a notice of power in order to control any ideas questioning his leadership.
 
I'd wait and see. If Kim is intent on striking the U.S. then I wouldn't expect him to be telegraphing his punches. Seems to me his message is geared more towards internal North Koreans as a notice of power in order to control any ideas questioning his leadership.

Why would he do that?!? He gains nothing. Loses everything.
 
1. Forget using nukes against NoKo. The fallout would eventually kill tens of thousands in S. Korea.

2. Very powerful simultaneous strikes against NoKo positions north of Seoul, NoKo missile & nuke facilities, and NoKo troops just north of the DMZ should disable NoKo's offensive capabilities.

3. Follow up #2 with a limited invasion of NoKo, taking the high ground north of Seoul and pushing them back from the DMZ.

4. Watch the Chinese pitch a fit, but do nothing.


#1 Agreed!

#2 With what? Do you guys have a secret stash of the US military somewhere that no one in the world knows about?

#3 With what? You don't think the Chinese won't react the same way they did in the 1950s?

#4 Already covered in #3

#2 I have no doubt that the U.S. military has lot's of secret stashes and only a very limited number of people know about each. Besides, there's a huge difference between striking NoKo positions on the DMZ and the types of bombing required for the Persian gulf war and Iraq invasion - the NoKo positions are concentrated in a relatively small area, so carpet bombing with b-52s should work.

#3 The Chinese wouldn't do squat. We could have stopped them back in 1952 if the U.S. high command wanted. We certainly can stop them now...and they know it.

#3a Back in 1952 we could have carpet bombed all the Chinese coastal cities, we can still do that now.
 
Wow. We've been in that hole for 65 years!

How much have we spent ?
 
1. Forget using nukes against NoKo. The fallout would eventually kill tens of thousands in S. Korea.

2. Very powerful simultaneous strikes against NoKo positions north of Seoul, NoKo missile & nuke facilities, and NoKo troops just north of the DMZ should disable NoKo's offensive capabilities.

3. Follow up #2 with a limited invasion of NoKo, taking the high ground north of Seoul and pushing them back from the DMZ.

4. Watch the Chinese pitch a fit, but do nothing.


#1 Agreed!

#2 With what? Do you guys have a secret stash of the US military somewhere that no one in the world knows about?

#3 With what? You don't think the Chinese won't react the same way they did in the 1950s?

#4 Already covered in #3

#2 I have no doubt that the U.S. military has lot's of secret stashes and only a very limited number of people know about each. Besides, there's a huge difference between striking NoKo positions on the DMZ and the types of bombing required for the Persian gulf war and Iraq invasion - the NoKo positions are concentrated in a relatively small area, so carpet bombing with b-52s should work.

#3 The Chinese wouldn't do squat. We could have stopped them back in 1952 if the U.S. high command wanted. We certainly can stop them now...and they know it.

#3a Back in 1952 we could have carpet bombed all the Chinese coastal cities, we can still do that now.


OK. I'm sorry! Now you have joined the "too stupid for prime time" crowd.

Secret stashes of troops? You are funny!

Do you think the Chinese and North Koreans are just going to sit idly by and watch B-52s assemble and then carpet bomb north of the DMZ?

Please pass out some of what you are smoking to the other users. Some of you are desperately in need of medication, illegal or otherwise.
 

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