Which POTUS admin is to blame for North Korea having an operational nuclear ICBM that can reach USA?

[my2¢]

I wouldn't point to any President. American influence over North Korea is very limited.

 

[JBond]

It's politically easy to kick the can to the next admin.

Cowardly and pussy as shit, but it's status quo and the D.C. Gravy train loves the status quo.

No big contracts to friends. Former elected officials now paid lobbyists.

Washington is full of parasites looking to feed off the host organism, the US taxpayer.

Now Trump will likely deal with North Korea. He is not the kind to just burden the next admin like the Washington insiders are.

There is very little that can be done with NK other than to negotiate with them. Something we should have done long ago.

W tried that. He reduced santions after US and IAEA inspectors were allowed to inspect their weapons programs. NK stopped playing ball and kicked out the inspectors.

 

[sealybobo]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Republicans called Obama weak. Now show us tough. And if you don't then admit you're all talk for liars. Admit Obama's foreign policy was exactly what it should be.

Last time Republicans led they fucked us into Iraq. I don't trust Republicans. Why did we elect them again?

Anyways, this bullshit about who's to blame is clearly Republicans making excuses why they aren't going to shit about North Korea. And I'm glad but still they're pussies.

 

[sealybobo]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Whenever Republicans don't want to own something they say there's a lot of blame to go around.

You wouldn't allow Iran to develope a nuke and yet you're allowing Kim Jung to lob missles at us? And what was Trump's response?"doesn't that guy have anything better to do?"

What a weak and pathetic response

 

[Hossfly]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Whenever Republicans don't want to own something they say there's a lot of blame to go around.

You wouldn't allow Iran to develope a nuke and yet you're allowing Kim Jung to lob missles at us? And what was Trump's response?"doesn't that guy have anything better to do?"

What a weak and pathetic response

Betcha if Kim keeps up his silly game he'll be ducking a Tomahawk.

 

[Two Thumbs]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Haven't we been paying them since before Carter?

Honestly it's the assbags that decided to limit the fighting and go for the tie.

 

[Two Thumbs]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Whenever Republicans don't want to own something they say there's a lot of blame to go around.

You wouldn't allow Iran to develope a nuke and yet you're allowing Kim Jung to lob missles at us? And what was Trump's response?"doesn't that guy have anything better to do?"

What a weak and pathetic response

Betcha if Kim keeps up his silly game he'll be ducking a Tomahawk.

RR signed a treaty that prevents us from killing just him.

 

[Hossfly]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

Whenever Republicans don't want to own something they say there's a lot of blame to go around.

You wouldn't allow Iran to develope a nuke and yet you're allowing Kim Jung to lob missles at us? And what was Trump's response?"doesn't that guy have anything better to do?"

What a weak and pathetic response

Betcha if Kim keeps up his silly game he'll be ducking a Tomahawk.

RR signed a treaty that prevents us from killing just him.

I agree but if Kim fires a missile at the US then he would be fair game.

 

[radical right]

I agree but if Kim fires a missile at the US then he would be fair game.

There was never a question of what we could do to retaliate. The problem is how many collateral casualties would there be, and how would the Chinese react seeing a nuke heading toward them.

 

[theHawk]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

All the previous Presidents are to some degree, some more than others.

Kim-boi-fag will get Trump stamped soon enough.

 

[radical right]

Kim-boi-fag will get Trump stamped soon enough.

Trump picked a bad time to piss off the Chinese.

 

[theHawk]

Kim-boi-fag will get Trump stamped soon enough.

Trump picked a bad time to piss off the Chinese.

Trump doesn't need to worry about the Chinese. They need us a thousand times more than we need them. We just use their cheap slave labor for convenience, if and when Trump slaps tariffs on them, they will collapse economically.

 

[flacaltenn]

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[radical right]

Kim-boi-fag will get Trump stamped soon enough.

Trump picked a bad time to piss off the Chinese.

Trump doesn't need to worry about the Chinese. They need us a thousand times more than we need them. We just use their cheap slave labor for convenience, if and when Trump slaps tariffs on them, they will collapse economically.

So you're willing to give up Taiwan? Because if push comes to shove, Taiwan is put between a ROC and a hard place.

 

[theHawk]

Kim-boi-fag will get Trump stamped soon enough.

Trump picked a bad time to piss off the Chinese.

Trump doesn't need to worry about the Chinese. They need us a thousand times more than we need them. We just use their cheap slave labor for convenience, if and when Trump slaps tariffs on them, they will collapse economically.

So you're willing to give up Taiwan? Because if push comes to shove, Taiwan is put between a ROC and a hard place.

Give up Taiwan? Right now the Chinese are content with us pretending it is a part of China, when it isn't. The Taiwanese have their own military, supplied by the US, and are completely independent. The Chinese won't invade them.

 

[radical right]

The Taiwanese have their own military, supplied by the US, and are completely independent. The Chinese won't invade them.

Then explain why the chinese spent the last decade building their militaries amphibious assault capabilities.

 

[JBond]

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[theHawk]

The Taiwanese have their own military, supplied by the US, and are completely independent. The Chinese won't invade them.

Then explain why the chinese spent the last decade building their militaries amphibious assault capabilities.

To scare the Taiwanese into submission.

 

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[JBond]

There is a lot of blame to go around.

We have simply been paying North Korea extortion money for decades.

Appeasement does not work. It has never worked.

We are doing the same thing with Iran. It's so fucking stupid. North Korea now is Iran in less than a decade.

Kicking the can to the next administration is NOT A STRATEGY.

North Korea does not have any operational ICBM's, shit half their supposed missiles blow up on the launch pad, so they would be incinerating themselves.

Grow up kid

Beyond the one they launched?

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