The dumb have out smarted the intelligent in the USA

[Hossfly]

The dumb have out smarted the intelligent in the USA
The dumb of our nation have elected President Trump. The politics and values of the dumb are driving our nation through the leadership of Trump.
No one exemplifies the politics and morals of the dumb more than Judge Roy Moore.
The intelligent can learn from the dumb without becoming the dumb.

Says the smart guy that wants the people he constantly insults to vote for his side again.

I complimented the dumb by saying they outsmarted the intelligent.
My statement is actually saying are the "dumb" actually less intelligent than the supposed intelligent.
The dumb are too dumb to get it.

Needin' another grammar lesson are ye, Elmer?

 

[Correll]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

 

[ChrisL]

Why is this thread even in politics? The standards for a topic passing for "politics" on this board is pretty low, I must say. This thread is more Rubber Room material.

 

[Hossfly]

Why is this thread even in politics? The standards for a topic passing for "politics" on this board is pretty low, I must say. This thread is more Rubber Room material.

I'm gettin' dizzy reading some of Elmer's gems.

 

[Darkwind]

So what are OP’s academic credentials?

I have a master's degree but that does not mean I am intelligent. But I am dam smart.

Have you evidence to this statement? So far, I'm not seeing it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So what are OP’s academic credentials?

I have a master's degree but that does not mean I am intelligent. But I am dam smart.

Have you evidence to this statement? So far, I'm not seeing it.

I'm not even seeing Jr.-High-level writing skills. What was that master's degree in?

 

[ElmerMudd]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

 

[ElmerMudd]

So what are OP’s academic credentials?

I have a master's degree but that does not mean I am intelligent. But I am dam smart.

Have you evidence to this statement? So far, I'm not seeing it.

I'm not even seeing Jr.-High-level writing skills. What was that master's degree in?

Business; you may not like my writing skills but I am very smart. In fact I am extremely smart. I am probably the most intelligent person you have ever communicated with. (I know you should never end a sentence with a preposition but I love breaking rules)

 

[Correll]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Time will tell. Manufacturing in the USA and throughout the world continues to employ less because of automation. The US must compete with very low labor rates throughout the world. Automation will continue to be a job killer.

 

[emilynghiem]

The dumb have out smarted the intelligent in the USA
The dumb of our nation have elected President Trump. The politics and values of the dumb are driving our nation through the leadership of Trump.
No one exemplifies the politics and morals of the dumb more than Judge Roy Moore.
The intelligent can learn from the dumb without becoming the dumb.

Dear ElmerMudd
If both the left and the right learned to invest and build their own communities
and programs, instead of relying on govt, then maybe we can all learn
instead of griping about either Obama or Trump. We aren't supposed to
worship or make Gods and Religions out of government anyway.

If liberals believe in free choice, that can't depend on govt.
If conservatives believe in private sector and not big govt,
then certainly they shouldn't depend on who is in office either.

We the people are supposed to be in charge,
and we are supposed to hire and fire and give instrucitons
to govt employees as public servants representing the public

Not the other way around.

This business of making martyrs or messiahs out of Obama or Trump
is what we fought to get away from - no more divine right to rule from the top down to dictate to the masses!

Yes we should learn.
And apparently it took Obama and Trump getting into office
to remind us NO we don't want to depend on leaders to tell us what to do.

 

[Correll]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Time will tell. Manufacturing in the USA and throughout the world continues to employ less because of automation. The US must compete with very low labor rates throughout the world. Automation will continue to be a job killer.

Who says we have to compete with third world labor? WHy? What is the benefit to US?

Germany does not have twice our level of manufacturing employment because they use out dated, labor intensive methods.

 

[emilynghiem]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Correll just watch what happens as more workers and union leaders and groups
unite across left and right to serve the people and get away from corporatized party politics

AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka: Trump's manufacturing council was 'a joke'

First Trumka and unions leave Trump's manufacturing council

then announce the workers are also lobbying to break ties with the Democratic Party
and go independent to work with both parties for workers' interests instead of party poltiics

AFL-CIO's Trumka puts Democrats on notice

 

[Correll]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Correll just watch what happens as more workers and union leaders and groups
unite across left and right to serve the people and get away from corporatized party politics

AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka: Trump's manufacturing council was 'a joke'

First Trumka and unions leave Trump's manufacturing council

then announce the workers are also lobbying to break ties with the Democratic Party
and go independent to work with both parties for workers' interests instead of party poltiics

AFL-CIO's Trumka puts Democrats on notice

I'll be waiting to see if they come up with anything.

 

[ElmerMudd]

After the effects of
8 years of Slick Willey
8 years of W
8 years of Mulatto Obama
and you call Trump Supporters dumb

yes

 

[ScienceRocks]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Time will tell. Manufacturing in the USA and throughout the world continues to employ less because of automation. The US must compete with very low labor rates throughout the world. Automation will continue to be a job killer.

We may want to rethink the economics...Automation could be used to humanities benefit with the right tax and benefit structure.

An basic income for all people paid for by an automation tax on the corporation would allow for most people to either live without working or enhance their education in order for them to seek better employment.

Maybe we could automation the food industry and make food a right that is provided with a feed back loop of tax to human back to corporation and around again...Doing something in the 19th century and doing something today is totatally different.


Why do loserterinas keep using ideas from the 18th century???

 

[ElmerMudd]

The dumb have out smarted the intelligent in the USA
The dumb of our nation have elected President Trump. The politics and values of the dumb are driving our nation through the leadership of Trump.
No one exemplifies the politics and morals of the dumb more than Judge Roy Moore.
The intelligent can learn from the dumb without becoming the dumb.

Dear ElmerMudd
If both the left and the right learned to invest and build their own communities
and programs, instead of relying on govt, then maybe we can all learn
instead of griping about either Obama or Trump. We aren't supposed to
worship or make Gods and Religions out of government anyway.

If liberals believe in free choice, that can't depend on govt.
If conservatives believe in private sector and not big govt,
then certainly they shouldn't depend on who is in office either.

We the people are supposed to be in charge,
and we are supposed to hire and fire and give instrucitons
to govt employees as public servants representing the public

Not the other way around.

This business of making martyrs or messiahs out of Obama or Trump
is what we fought to get away from - no more divine right to rule from the top down to dictate to the masses!

Yes we should learn.
And apparently it took Obama and Trump getting into office
to remind us NO we don't want to depend on leaders to tell us what to do.

I agree that we need to be as self-reliant as possible and not depend on government.
Trump's message is depend on me to make changes in the world to help you. The changes he is promising are impossible; coal jobs are not coming back in large numbers, there are limits to the manufacturing jobs that can be brought back. Illegal immigrants and Muslims are not the reason most supporters do not have jobs. Racial minorities and women should be respected and are not the reason for old white men are unemployed.
If you are going to take care of yourself you need to deal with reality. Trump does not deal with reality.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The talk about the "no college education white voter" being such a factor in the last election was because they were a source of votes that the Conventional Wisdom said was not there, at least not in numbers.


Trump was right that they were there, and everyone else was wrong.


The point of them being a group defined by their lack of college here, was not that there was anything "dumb" about them wanting their interests represented in government policy,


but that it had NOT been for quite some time.


Them jumping on a chance to actually have a President committed to serving THEM for a change, was not "dumb" but completely sensible.

I agree with your assessment of Trump identifying a large portion of the electorate that were being ignored.
But Trump conned this segment with false promises. You cannot bring back the 1960's. The world and USA economy has moved on. The key is to train the under employed with skills for 21st century jobs.
Trump is selling the trickle down economics. The immediate benefit goes to corporations and their share holders. The benefits to the middle class will be a trickle and a long time coming.

Germany has twice the level of manufacturing employment we do.

Manufacturing is the back bone of any Middle Class and some of the best jobs for upward mobility.


Training for new jobs has been the supposed answer since the 80s. It has failed.


Time to adjust policy to reflect that failure.


It is not a scam. It can be done. It should be done. It needs to be done.

Time will tell. Manufacturing in the USA and throughout the world continues to employ less because of automation. The US must compete with very low labor rates throughout the world. Automation will continue to be a job killer.

Who says we have to compete with third world labor? WHy? What is the benefit to US?

Germany does not have twice our level of manufacturing employment because they use out dated, labor intensive methods.

The consumer consistently buys the lowest cost goods, labor affects the cost of goods. Ask the Trump's why a majority of their products are manufactured outside the USA.
We can learn from Germany but there manufacturing growth is fueled by many mid-sized companies. The USA continues to be dominated by mega corporations. It is a mind set of corporate Germany and German consumers and workers that have more to do with the German manufacturing success than the government. They have a leading edge apprentice programs to teach the new skills required by new manufacturing.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So what are OP’s academic credentials?

I have a master's degree but that does not mean I am intelligent. But I am dam smart.

Have you evidence to this statement? So far, I'm not seeing it.

I'm not even seeing Jr.-High-level writing skills. What was that master's degree in?

Business; you may not like my writing skills but I am very smart. In fact I am extremely smart. I am probably the most intelligent person you have ever communicated with. (I know you should never end a sentence with a preposition but I love breaking rules)

Quoted and saved!

By the way, illegals are a triple drain on society.

They take jobs, they take housing, and they take food and social services.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Actually, the dumb have outnumbered the intelligent in America – that’s how the idiot Trump got elected.