1. You did not address that Osama was pissed off BECAUSE we were helping to protect his homeland from invasion.
2. "Them" was the Afghan people, who the Soviets were oppressing and committing genocide against.
3. The fact that the Soviets were our mutual enemy would not not normally be considered a reason to NOT appreciate help. NOr does it change the fact that prior to 9-11 our history with Afghanistan was one of HELPING them against invasion, not invading. Which makes any "invasion" excuse for the behavior of the Taliban nonsensical.
1) Who cares whether Osama Bin Laden was pissed off because the US and Saudi Arabia are allies or not? There is so much stuff that made him angry. The point you made just seems to be pointing out something kind of obvious. If you hated an invading force and then they put troops somewhere, would you like them? Chances are no.
2) "them" is the Afghan people? All of them? Some of them clearly like the Taliban. The US took sides in a Civil War. Simple as. I'm not defending the Taliban, not my sort of thing.
As for the USSR. They didn't actually treat the people that badly in Afghanistan. However they were an unwanted presence there. Genocide is not something unknown to countries like the USSR, Russia, the US either.
3) If you have two enemies, and one of those enemies decides to supply you with arms, what would you say? "Oh, wow, I love you so much" or "snigger snigger we're being helped by our enemies"
The right in the US has too much arrogance. To think that these people would be grateful. I mean, are you ******* serious? You really think they'd be grateful? The US supplied them arms, they accepted, but they didn't like the US.
Says more about the US than the Afghans.
1. You're the one that cares. YOu brought up the "West's" "Invasions" as a reason for terrorism. I am debunking that.
2. The Taliban did not even exist when we were aiding them against the Soviets. The Soviets committed genocide and oppression on the People of Afghanistan. That is quite "Badly" treatment by any sane standard.
3. We were not enemies of the Afghanistan People or nation, prior to 9-11. And yes, I do expect some measure of gratitude from people we help save themselves from genocide and oppression.
You're debunking that bin Laden was angry at the West for interference, and the way you're doing it is talking about him AFTER he was converted to extremism? Unless I'm not getting your point well, this doesn't make sense.
No, the Taliban didn't exist, however the Mujaheddin did exist and there are potentially a lot of links between the two over a period of a couple of decades.
However Genocide is the deliberate killing of a group of people with the intent of killing the off, or killing their culture or way of life. Did the Soviets do this, or did they just kill a lot of people in their war and aim of having Afghanistan as a Communist nation.
Afghanistan
"The Afghans are among the latest victims of genocide by a superpower. Large numbers of Afghans were killed to suppress resistance to the army of the Soviet Union, which wished to vindicate its client regime and realize its goal in Afghanistan. Thus, the mass killing was political."
By this explanation, this isn't genocide. It's not good, people were being killed, however genocide it's not.
You haven't shown this to be genocide either.
No, the US wasn't enemies of the Afghanis before 9/11. The Taliban hated the US. However the US made them their enemy. Bush demanded they hand over bin Laden, and the Afghans asked him to show the crimes. This is normal in an extradition. But Bush KNEW that he couldn't, and it would take time, so he simply made out the Afghans had said "no" when they hadn't said no.