The Destructive Effects of Government

[NYcarbineer]

How could anyone possibly know what's good for me when they're not me?

Obama thinks you need health insurance.

Everyone needs health insurance.

Everyone is now forced to do so or pay a hefty fine.
So much for freedom from government, it now no longer exists.

Except when you get in a car crash we are required to care for you even if you don't have insurance .

Or would u rather have a system where we just let uncovered people just die in the streets ?

I prefer a system that is truly a free market for those that need it.
Set it up like the ones that are already working very well in this Country.
Doing it this way does not force anyone.

Would you like a free market for health insurance for 70 year olds? 80 year olds?

How would that work?

 

[peach174]

Obama thinks you need health insurance.

Everyone needs health insurance.

Everyone is now forced to do so or pay a hefty fine.
So much for freedom from government, it now no longer exists.

Except when you get in a car crash we are required to care for you even if you don't have insurance .

Or would u rather have a system where we just let uncovered people just die in the streets ?

I prefer a system that is truly a free market for those that need it.
Set it up like the ones that are already working very well in this Country.
Doing it this way does not force anyone.

Would you like a free market for health insurance for 70 year olds? 80 year olds?

How would that work?

Free clinics would be great for the old and the poor.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Everyone needs health insurance.

Everyone is now forced to do so or pay a hefty fine.
So much for freedom from government, it now no longer exists.

Except when you get in a car crash we are required to care for you even if you don't have insurance .

Or would u rather have a system where we just let uncovered people just die in the streets ?

I prefer a system that is truly a free market for those that need it.
Set it up like the ones that are already working very well in this Country.
Doing it this way does not force anyone.

Would you like a free market for health insurance for 70 year olds? 80 year olds?

How would that work?

Free clinics would be great for the old and the poor.

Ah, offering free stuff. lol, how socialist of you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

More evidence of the truth of the title of this thread:

But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html



"It is painfully clear that our economy has been performing far below its potential, with individuals, families, and entrepreneurs being squeezed by the proliferation of big government bureaucracy and regulations."
Ibid.


Clearly, skin color is neither a valid reason for discriminating against....nor for election.

Who are the dolts who voted for the unmitigated failure in the White House?

Apologize now!

The DailySignal?

The Daily Signal is an American news website founded in June 2014. The publication focuses on politics, culture, and under-reported stories. It is published by The Heritage Foundation.
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An undergrad who used once source in a term paper would not pass the course, a journalist who reported on an issue using only one source is not a journalist, and a narcissist whose sole role in life is to insult everyone who disagrees with her is one sick puppy.

There is a certain level of moron.....your type.....who attempts to dodge the facts by claiming that they are not presented by a source they accept.

Not that the facts aren't true, correct, and accurate....but who has provided them.

Now...if that were an ethical and authentic rebuttal.....then that same individual would stop using Arabic numerals because of the attacks on America, 9/11.


Just to rub your face in it.....here are those facts, again....
"According to the 2016 Index of Economic Freedom, an annual publication by The Heritage Foundation, America’s economic freedom has tumbled. With losses of economic freedom in eight of the past nine years, the U.S. has tied its worst score ever, wiping out a decade of progress. Since early2009:

· Government spending has exploded, amounting to $29,867 per household in 2015.

· The national debt has risen to $125,000 for every tax filing household in America—a total over $18 trillion.

· The government takeover of health care is raising prices and disrupting markets.

· Bailouts and new government regulations have increased uncertainty, stifling investment and job creation."
America’s Economic Freedom Has Rapidly Declined Under Obama



"It is painfully clear that our economy has been performing far below its potential, with individuals, families, and entrepreneurs being squeezed by the proliferation of big government bureaucracy and regulations."
Ibid.


Pretend you have a brain....and try to deny them.



Waiting.

Placed on the table, and ignored:

"An undergrad who used one source in a term paper would not pass the course, a journalist who reported on an issue using only one source is not a journalist, and a narcissist whose sole role in life is to insult everyone who disagrees with her is one sick puppy."
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Yes PC, I have concluded you are one sick puppy. I have put facts on the table, facts empirically investigated by reading your many many threads. They come in one single form:

1. The Troll
2. The Evidence (Appeal to obscure Authorities)
3. The Ad Hominem (Personal Attacks on those who do not agree)
4. The Claim (Of omniscient knowledge)

Yes, you are really that simple.

​

So...you are unable to deny or refute in any way the material reported from the Daily Signal.
This:
"According to the 2016 Index of Economic Freedom, an annual publication by The Heritage Foundation, America’s economic freedom has tumbled. With losses of economic freedom in eight of the past nine years, the U.S. has tied its worst score ever, wiping out a decade of progress. Since early2009:

· Government spending has exploded, amounting to $29,867 per household in 2015.

· The national debt has risen to $125,000 for every tax filing household in America—a total over $18 trillion.

· The government takeover of health care is raising prices and disrupting markets.

· Bailouts and new government regulations have increased uncertainty, stifling investment and job creation."
America’s Economic Freedom Has Rapidly Declined Under Obama



"It is painfully clear that our economy has been performing far below its potential, with individuals, families, and entrepreneurs being squeezed by the proliferation of big government bureaucracy and regulations."
Ibid.


Exactly as I stated.

You may now retreat back under that rock.

 

[peach174]

Everyone is now forced to do so or pay a hefty fine.
So much for freedom from government, it now no longer exists.

Except when you get in a car crash we are required to care for you even if you don't have insurance .

Or would u rather have a system where we just let uncovered people just die in the streets ?

I prefer a system that is truly a free market for those that need it.
Set it up like the ones that are already working very well in this Country.
Doing it this way does not force anyone.

Would you like a free market for health insurance for 70 year olds? 80 year olds?

How would that work?

Free clinics would be great for the old and the poor.

Ah, offering free stuff. lol, how socialist of you.

Nothing is free especially socialism.
You don't have a clue as to how these types of free market Health Clinics are run do you?

 

[Timmy]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

 

[Timmy]

Chic ,

"Losses of economic freedoms" is an opinion .

 

[peach174]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

 

[peach174]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

The USA until the socialists took over 50 years ago.

 

[peach174]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

A free market health clinic takes donations. If a poor person does not have any money to donate they get the service free.
A Community Clinic

 

[Timmy]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

The USA until the socialists took over 50 years ago.

You think the us became socialist in 1960s? Try backing that up like 100yrs.

 

[Timmy]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

A free market health clinic takes donations. If a poor person does not have any money to donate they get the service free.
A Community Clinic

What free clinic can maintain adequate coverage for shit like cancer or end of life services?!

 

[peach174]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

The USA until the socialists took over 50 years ago.

You think the us became socialist in 1960s? Try backing that up like 100yrs.

Those were progressives who's children turned to socialism in the 50's.

 

[peach174]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

A free market health clinic takes donations. If a poor person does not have any money to donate they get the service free.
A Community Clinic

What free clinic can maintain adequate coverage for shit like cancer or end of life services?!

We already have Medicaid which covers for that.

 

[Timmy]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

The USA until the socialists took over 50 years ago.

You think the us became socialist in 1960s? Try backing that up like 100yrs.

Those were progressives who's children turned to socialism in the 50's.

The us was already socialist before that . How can u become socialists shout some socialists in gov?

 

[Timmy]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

A free market health clinic takes donations. If a poor person does not have any money to donate they get the service free.
A Community Clinic

What free clinic can maintain adequate coverage for shit like cancer or end of life services?!

We already have Medicaid which covers for that.

Aka the taxpayer . So why not have people get their own rather than everyone relying on safety nets .

 

[peach174]

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

The USA until the socialists took over 50 years ago.

You think the us became socialist in 1960s? Try backing that up like 100yrs.

Those were progressives who's children turned to socialism in the 50's.

The us was already socialist before that . How can u become socialists shout some socialists in gov?

No it wasn't.

 

[peach174]

Like I said, you should check them out and find out how and why they are working so well.
They do great for necessities.
A free market is a market economy system in which the prices for goods and services are set freely by consent between vendors and consumers, in which the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, price-setting monopoly, or other authority.

Which means in a free market, anything one cannot afford one does not receive (subject to the whims of charity).

That includes food, shelter, heat, water, education, and healthcare.

What country ever got better by such a system?

A free market health clinic takes donations. If a poor person does not have any money to donate they get the service free.
A Community Clinic

What free clinic can maintain adequate coverage for shit like cancer or end of life services?!

We already have Medicaid which covers for that.

Aka the taxpayer . So why not have people get their own rather than everyone relying on safety nets .

Not everyone can do that.
We need some safety nets, just not safety nets that continually keep them inside that net.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Health care is a necessity . Free markets don't work so well with neeccessities .

Fact is that we all need healthcare at some point .

Health care was the law since Reagan.