The demise of Isreal is imminent!

[Roudy]

I call that bribery and corruption.

I call it diplomacy.

You would!

Using non-violent coercion to achieve policy objectives is the essence of diplomacy.

Yep, totally agree...

However, blatant bullying and threats is NOT diplomacy. Perhaps in Trumps little world but not in the REAL world!

In the real world Trump is president and Israel is benefitting greatly from his presidency. Deal with it!

 

[teddyearp]

It is so amusing how deluded some people are. Israel will not go away and the world is not laughing at Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

In your response you did exactly what I said you would. You made excuses pretending it had to do with circumstances -- but it is really a separate set of rules for the Jewish people.

Um, no.

I'm holding the Jews to the same standards I hold the Germans to in WWII. You can't go around taking other people's shit in the modern world.

Same standard we held Saddam to. You can't go taking other people's shit.

 

[fncceo]

You can't go taking other people's shit.

Good thing Israel never did that.

 

[JoeB131]

Good thing Israel never did that.

So all those wars against the Arabs were figment of our imagination, then?

 

[fncceo]

So all those wars against the Arabs were figment of our imagination, then?

Those wars were Arab invasions of the sovereign state of Israel ... wars in which, incidentally, they got their collective arses handed to them.

 

[Faun]

Question: Does it look like Israel is winning or losing since Trump became president? Here are some clues....

Trump Recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital and Orders U.S. Embassy to Move

Trump threatens to cut off US aid to Palestinian Authority

Been hearing that my entire life.

 

[Indeependent]

In your response you did exactly what I said you would. You made excuses pretending it had to do with circumstances -- but it is really a separate set of rules for the Jewish people.

Um, no.

I'm holding the Jews to the same standards I hold the Germans to in WWII. You can't go around taking other people's shit in the modern world.

Same standard we held Saddam to. You can't go taking other people's shit.

Jews wanted to be the best Germans and you’re an idiot on every topic you discuss.

 

[Indeependent]

So all those wars against the Arabs were figment of our imagination, then?

Those wars were Arab invasions of the sovereign state of Israel ... wars in which, incidentally, they got their collective arses handed to them.

Joe hates Caucacians.

 

[fncceo]

Joe hates Caucacians.

That's cool ... so do I.

 

[Shusha]

Um, no.

I'm holding the Jews to the same standards I hold the Germans to in WWII. You can't go around taking other people's shit in the modern world.

Same standard we held Saddam to. You can't go taking other people's shit.

No, you have different standards for different people. The Europeans were certainly welcome to take First Nations people's "shit", according to you. The Europeans were welcome to take the Australian First Nations people's "shit". And the Europeans were also welcome to the South American people's "shit". But somehow the "Europeans" are not permitted to take the Arab's "shit".

Why is that? Oh. Well. Because the "Europeans" in that case are Jewish.

Let me be clear here. "Shit" belongs to the peoples who are indigenous to that place. That means to the people whose culture originated in that place -- pre-conquest, pre-invasion, pre-colonization. Or, if you don't especially like that notion, then conquest, invasion and colonization transfer rights of the place to the conquerors, invaders and colonizers. EITHER WAY the Jewish people have AT LEAST EQUAL claim to the place.

The game you are playing is that conquerors, invaders and colonizers have claim (can't unbreak the egg). Oh. Unless they are Jews.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In your response you did exactly what I said you would. You made excuses pretending it had to do with circumstances -- but it is really a separate set of rules for the Jewish people.

Um, no.

I'm holding the Jews to the same standards I hold the Germans to in WWII. You can't go around taking other people's shit in the modern world.

Same standard we held Saddam to. You can't go taking other people's shit.

I'm holding the Jews to the same standards I hold the Germans to in WWII.

And the Arabs too!

So, Germans started two world wars, lost both, lost some territory.

Arabs started some wars with Israel, lost them, lost some territory.

 

[JoeB131]

Those wars were Arab invasions of the sovereign state of Israel ... wars in which, incidentally, they got their collective arses handed to them.

Uh, guy, when the Jews had to come ALL THE WAY FROM EUROPE, and the Arabs were already there, then the Jews were the invaders.

See how that works?

Jews wanted to be the best Germans and you’re an idiot on every topic you discuss.

Uh, dude, you're a racist asshole and everyone is done with you.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you have different standards for different people. The Europeans were certainly welcome to take First Nations people's "shit", according to you. The Europeans were welcome to take the Australian First Nations people's "shit". And the Europeans were also welcome to the South American people's "shit". But somehow the "Europeans" are not permitted to take the Arab's "shit".

Yes, in the 17th century, that sort of thing was considered "acceptable".

It isn't in the 20th century, that's the point. Kind of like how slavery was kind of okay back then and today it isn't.

Of course, these things were never, "Okay", it's just today we realize they are bad things.

Let me be clear here. "Shit" belongs to the peoples who are indigenous to that place. That means to the people whose culture originated in that place -- pre-conquest, pre-invasion, pre-colonization. Or, if you don't especially like that notion, then conquest, invasion and colonization transfer rights of the place to the conquerors, invaders and colonizers. EITHER WAY the Jewish people have AT LEAST EQUAL claim to the place.

You see, the thing with that is, those EUROPEAN Jews shared nothing with the people who lived there 2000 years ago but a bastardized, watered down version of their goofy, backward ass religion. and they don't even do that right, since they aren't stoning girls for not being virgins anymore.

But even if you take that position, the reality is, the Judeans were only ONE TRIBE over there. By the time the Romans finally got fed up with their shit, they weren't even speaking Hebrew anymore, they were speaking Aramaic. And when they got dispersed, they dropped Aramaic and started speaking Yiddish and a bunch of other local languages of their fellow Europeans.

 

[fncceo]

when the Jews had to come ALL THE WAY FROM EUROPE,

Israel is a sovereign country. Who they invite to help them build their country is no one’s concern but Israel’s.

A Jew from Europe is just as much of a Jew as one from Israel. Just ask your anti-Semitic friends. They make no distinction on country of origin. They hate all Jews.

Do you have an issue with Japan allowing Japanese born abroad to become citizens?

 

[JoeB131]

Israel is a sovereign country. Who they invite to help them build their country is no one’s concern but Israel’s.

Really, show me where Israel is on an 1700's map.

Thanks.

 

[fncceo]

Israel is a sovereign country. Who they invite to help them build their country is no one’s concern but Israel’s.

Really, show me where Israel is on an 1700's map.

Thanks.

Just as soon as you tell me what wars Arabs fought with Israel in the 1700s.

 

[JoeB131]

Just as soon as you tell me what wars Arabs fought with Israel in the 1700s.

Naw, man, back in the 1700, the Jews were in Europe cheating the Goyim, so they didn't want to go to Palestine.

 

[fncceo]

Just as soon as you tell me what wars Arabs fought with Israel in the 1700s.

Naw, man, back in the 1700, the Jews were in Europe cheating the Goyim, so they didn't want to go to Palestine.

They were already there, selling pieces of the true cross and shroud of Turin beach towels to the rubes.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The demise of Isreal is imminent!
※→ JoeB131, Indeependent, et al,

Oh, come now. This is simply a demonstration of how childish this "invader" accusation is. There was no uninvited forceful entry with hostile malicious or confrontational intent by the Jewish People.

Those wars were Arab invasions of the sovereign state of Israel ... wars in which, incidentally, they got their collective arses handed to them.

Uh, guy, when the Jews had to come ALL THE WAY FROM EUROPE, and the Arabs were already there, then the Jews were the invaders.

See how that works?

Jews wanted to be the best Germans and you’re an idiot on every topic you discuss.

Uh, dude, you're a racist asshole and everyone is done with you.

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Immigration by the Jewish people, who are willing to assist with the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people - and the development of self-governing institutions - as implied by the the Declaration originally made on 2 November 1917, by the British Government, and approved by the Principle Allied Powers in the 1920 San Remo Convention. (All understood as objectives by the League of Nations and any modification of the terms of the Mandate requires the consent of the Council of the League. )

✪ The Principal Allied Powers selected the British Government as the Mandatory for Palestine.
✪ The Palestine Mandate is of a very special character; with the Mandatory having full powers of legislation and of administration.
✪ The Mandatory (British Government) was responsible for:

• Placing the territory to which the Mandate applied, under such political, administrative and economic conditions.
• Securing the establishment of the Jewish national home.
• Securing the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine.
• Enact a nationality law containing provisions to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
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What does this mean? (RHETORICAL QUESTION) There was no hostile intent (on the part of the Jewish immigrants) at the beginning of the civil administration, to takeover the territory. The territory was firmly in the control of the British Government.

Most Respectfully,
R