The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[danielpalos]

it should be obvious to anyone who knows how to reason their way out of a paper bag.

It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

 

[danielpalos]

The people are the militia.

But, snowflake, the militia are not the people.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

 

[P@triot]

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

 

[Lesh]

According to the Dick Act...the UNORGANIZED militia (not the Well Regulated Militia mentioned in the 2A) consists of ONLY males between 17 and 45.

Scalia knew that was not gonna work...so he abandoned that entire argument and pretended the first part of the 2A wasn't even there

The “Dick Act” is not the U.S. Constitution, snowflake. Per the Supremacy Clause, the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land - trumping any and all other law. Including your precious “Dick Act”.

And there is no Well regulated militia at ALL. The closest you can get is the UNORGANIZED militia mandated in the Dick Act.

Thank you for explaining that the 2A does not apply to gun rights

 

[P@triot]

The people are the militia.

But, snowflake, the militia are not the people.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

Thankfully nobody cared what George Mason thought. Thankfully, nobody still cares what George Mason thought. Membership in a militia is not grounds for personhood. And that is a scientific fact.

 

[P@triot]

And there is no Well regulated militia at ALL.

Thank goodness the 2nd Amendment doesn’t require a “well regulated militia” then!

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

 

[P@triot]

The closest you can get is the UNORGANIZED militia mandated in the Dick Act.

As we have already established here, the “Dick Act” doesn’t mean dick as it is not the U.S. Constitution. And per the Supremacy Clause, the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land - trumping any and all other law. Including your precious “Dick Act”.

 

[danielpalos]

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

The militia must mean something. George Mason clarified it in the debates regarding ratification of our federal Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

The people are the militia.

But, snowflake, the militia are not the people.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

Thankfully nobody cared what George Mason thought. Thankfully, nobody still cares what George Mason thought. Membership in a militia is not grounds for personhood. And that is a scientific fact.

lol. That is the understanding of the militia, under the common law, for the common defense.

 

[danielpalos]

And there is no Well regulated militia at ALL.

Thank goodness the 2nd Amendment doesn’t require a “well regulated militia” then!

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

Any federal or State gun control laws, means you only have rhetoric for propaganda.

 

[danielpalos]

The closest you can get is the UNORGANIZED militia mandated in the Dick Act.

As we have already established here, the “Dick Act” doesn’t mean dick as it is not the U.S. Constitution. And per the Supremacy Clause, the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land - trumping any and all other law. Including your precious “Dick Act”.

The people are the militia; you can be drafted.

 

[Lesh]

The closest you can get is the UNORGANIZED militia mandated in the Dick Act.

As we have already established here, the “Dick Act” doesn’t mean dick as it is not the U.S. Constitution. And per the Supremacy Clause, the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land - trumping any and all other law. Including your precious “Dick Act”.

Scalia understood that an since the 2A specifically tied it's protection of gun rights TO the Well Regulated Militia (that no longer exists) he "uncoupled" and ignored pieces of the Constitution that he found "difficult" for his position

 

[P@triot]

The militia must mean something. George Mason clarified it in the debates regarding ratification of our federal Constitution.

If does mean something. It means “militia”. Still has nothing to do with my constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

 

[danielpalos]

The militia must mean something. George Mason clarified it in the debates regarding ratification of our federal Constitution.

If does mean something. It means “militia”. Still has nothing to do with my constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

The militia is callable to arms.

 

[P@triot]

The people are the militia; you can be drafted.

But thankfully the militia are not the people! It is a scientific fact that membership in a militia is not a requirement for personhood.

 

[P@triot]

The people are the militia; you can be drafted.

Uh...not into a “militia”. Dumb ass. You’re confusing “militia” with “military”. And you can’t even be drafted into the military anymore, dimwit. That was eliminated.

 

[P@triot]

The militia is callable to arms.

Thankfully, so is “mere” U.S. citizenship!

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

 

[danielpalos]

The militia must mean something. George Mason clarified it in the debates regarding ratification of our federal Constitution.

If does mean something. It means “militia”. Still has nothing to do with my constitutional right to keep and bear arms. It’s even more obvious to anyone who can read. The founders were unquestionably the brightest minds in world history (Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.). If they wanted firearms limited only to people in a militia, they would have said “militia”. But they didn’t. They explicitly stated “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.

The militia is callable to arms.

The people are the militia; you can be drafted.

But thankfully the militia are not the people! It is a scientific fact that membership in a militia is not a requirement for personhood.

The militia is callable to arms. Membership in the militia is like citizenship.

 

[danielpalos]

The people are the militia; you can be drafted.

Uh...not into a “militia”. Dumb ass. You’re confusing “militia” with “military”. And you can’t even be drafted into the military anymore, dimwit. That was eliminated.

The militia is callable to arms; or, Vietnam vets would have declined to fight a foreign war.

 

[danielpalos]

The militia is callable to arms.

Thankfully, so is “mere” U.S. citizenship!

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

Citizens are the militia and callable to arms.