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The deal Trump wanted with Russia
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Bush92
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Link...optimum word "opinion."Long article but WELL worth reading as to WHO has steeped into the oval office.
While he ran for president, Trump was simultaneously — and secretly — pursuing financial opportunities with a foreign adversary. Not just any adversary, but Russia, a country described by his party’s previous presidential nominee as the United States’ “No. 1 geopolitical foe.” And not just pursuing financial opportunities in Russia, but actively seeking the help of at least one senior Russian official to gain government approval for the project.
This is not okay. When you run for president, you cannot — you should not — put yourself in the position of using that candidacy as a door-opening business opportunity. You cannot — even if the prospect of winning seems remote — put yourself in a position of being financially beholden to a hostile foreign power.
Trump Tower Moscow was not another instance of Trump as unabashed cross-promoter-in-chief, like using the campaign press corps to help tout the reopening of his Scottish golf course. It represented something much more disturbing, even unpatriotic.
It was possible, when The Post first broke the news of the failed deal, to discount the proposal as braggadocio from Felix Sater, the Russian-born real estate developer pushing the deal. “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Sater emailed Trump Organization executive vice president Michael Cohen, detailed by the New York Times.
But as it turned out, this was more than Sater freelancing in Trump’s name. The Post next reported that Cohen emailed Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov in January 2016 in a bid to save the languishing deal; that Cohen discussed the project with Trump on three occasions; and that the effort was dropped when Russian government permission was unforthcoming.
The Trump Organization not only pursued this opportunity in secret, it — indeed, Trump himself — actively misled the public. Imagine how much more sharply people would have responded to Trump’s already repulsive praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin during that time — “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader, you know, unlike what we have in this country” — if they knew that Trump had just signed a letter of intent with a Russian firm to develop a Trump-branded tower in Moscow.
And as the question of Trump’s Russian connections became increasingly controversial, he somehow omitted the just-abandoned deal. “For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia,” he tweeted in July 2016. This past January, as Trump prepared to take office, he reiterated, “I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA — NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!” Shades of Bill Clinton — it depends on what the meaning of “have” is.
As recently as his interview this summer with the New York Times, Trump disingenuously played down his financial interests in Russia. “I mean, it’s possible there’s a condo or something, so, you know, I sell a lot of condo units, and somebody from Russia buys a condo, who knows? . . . They said I own buildings in Russia. I don’t. They said I made money from Russia. I don’t. It’s not my thing. I don’t, I don’t do that. Over the years, I’ve looked at maybe doing a deal in Russia, but I never did one.” Including the one he was pursuing while running for president, but failed to mention.
We have become inured to Trumpian self-dealing, from doubling membership fees at Mar-a-Lago to profiting off his government-owned D.C. hotel. This one goes beyond pure greed. It edges into serious questions about whether Trump’s positions on Putin and Russia have been and remain tainted by considerations not of what is best for the nation but what benefits Trump’s bottom line.
Opinion | The deal Trump wanted with Russia
TheDude
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Message being the Russian election conspiracy isn't panning out, so this narrative provides a temporary relief.
nat4900
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Nice deflection pussy, now you want to try to answer the question?
Not here to answer your desperate questions.....Just read the facts and opinions....and live with them.
Some morons.....like you.....are so into the cult mentality that NOTHING will convince you that you made a fucked up mistake......But, for others, there is hope.
the guy was elected,i prefer to let the guy prove what he can do instead of just running with the opposing parties hate,next time run a competent person and we wont have this problem....im sure they were contemplating it.....
No coup...but Trump's resignation would be rather welcomed by 2/3 of this country, don't you think?
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And what about the Antifa communist on your side.At least under Bush, no one tried a literal coup the way the hate filled left is now....
Don't fret too much....you'll always have these like-minded morons on YOUR side to prevent a coup...
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nat4900
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the guy was elected,i prefer to let the guy prove what he can do instead of just running with the opposing parties hate,next time run a competent person and we wont have this problem....
Could not the same be stated about the GOP??? Yes or No?
nat4900
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And what about the Antifa communist on your side.
Well, violence is never acceptable.....
HOWEVER, when on one side you have KKK,Neo-fascists and White Supremacist member....and on the other side you have those who oppose this group of racist fanatics....
YOU and Trump MUST choose a side...........So, which side are you on?
Bush92
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None of these groups are on my side. Media bullshit attempt to connect all conservatives to racist groups.And what about the Antifa communist on your side.
Well, violence is never acceptable.....
HOWEVER, when on one side you have KKK,Neo-fascists and White Supremacist member....and on the other side you have those who oppose this group of racist fanatics....
YOU and Trump MUST choose a side...........So, which side are you on?
nat4900
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None of these groups are on my side. Media bullshit attempt to connect all conservatives to racist groups
Since you "accuse" me of being a fan of Antifa......
Since you're a Trump supporter, may I accuse you of this???
David Duke Praises President Trump at White Supremacist Rally ...
absolutely....you wont find me anywhere in this forum supporting trump nat and i think you already know this.....i aint a fan of the guy.....the guy was elected,i prefer to let the guy prove what he can do instead of just running with the opposing parties hate,next time run a competent person and we wont have this problem....
Could not the same be stated about the GOP??? Yes or No?
Nice deflection pussy, now you want to try to answer the question?
Not here to answer your desperate questions.....Just read the facts and opinions....and live with them.
Some morons.....like you.....are so into the cult mentality that NOTHING will convince you that you made a fucked up mistake......But, for others, there is hope.
No, you're just here to make your desperate unsubstantiated claims, like your fucked opinion matters to anyone but you. You make a big fucking deal about sanctions yet you have no proof that Trump dealt with anyone on the sanctions list. Sitting there making accusations that you can't back up with facts just proves how intellectually deficient you are and you're nothing but a regressive HACK.
Here's a thought, how about you stop being a mindless thread mill and get back to us when you actually have something real to cry about.
And no, I made no mistake, I've said time and again, I've already gotten everything I hoped for from Trump, everything else he is managing to accomplish is just gravy. One of those accomplishments is to keep freaks like you in a high state of pisstivity. The entertainment value is priceless.
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None of these groups are on my side. Media bullshit attempt to connect all conservatives to racist groups.And what about the Antifa communist on your side.
Well, violence is never acceptable.....
HOWEVER, when on one side you have KKK,Neo-fascists and White Supremacist member....and on the other side you have those who oppose this group of racist fanatics....
YOU and Trump MUST choose a side...........So, which side are you on?
It's not just the media, the POS OP can be included in that statement along with many of its ilk.
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OH, forgot to add to the above, Trump's INSISTENCE to everyone, that he has had NO business with Russia ever.......LOL
What are the chances of Trump apologizing for his lies???..............LOL
About the same as your dear leader and the bitch apologizing for theirs.
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Bush92
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Nope...because Trump is not a racist...but Antifa are communist.None of these groups are on my side. Media bullshit attempt to connect all conservatives to racist groups
Since you "accuse" me of being a fan of Antifa......
Since you're a Trump supporter, may I accuse you of this???
David Duke Praises President Trump at White Supremacist Rally ...
nat4900
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Here's a thought, how about you stop being a mindless thread mill and get back to us when you actually have something real to cry about.
.....and YET, assholes like you follow me around like little lost puppies on ALL my threads..
I wonder why???......................LOL
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