The Civil War Is Here

[EvilCat Breath]

We'll know thus summer. The left is already having rage seminars. The violence has escalated against people chosen for the liklihood they won't fight back. If someone does fight back, the left recoils with a pig like squeal "he HITme, waaaa".

Nope with so many people planning and training, you know something is going to pop.

 

[American_Jihad]

We'll know thus summer. The left is already having rage seminars. The violence has escalated against people chosen for the liklihood they won't fight back. If someone does fight back, the left recoils with a pig like squeal "he HITme, waaaa".

Nope with so many people planning and training, you know something is going to pop.

Well here in Florida Stand Your Ground Law authorizes the use of deadly force, bring a boat I live on an island...

 

[Igrok_]

Looks like this! But it is more possible the World War to be the "solution"...

 

[Avatar4321]

Lets pray civil war isn't here because it will make the last one look like a picnic

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The left is already fighting. The right is avoiding. There will be an act that cannot be avoided. Someone will be badly hurt. Then it will be game on.

 

[Avatar4321]

If it's a shooting war, I won't be much help. I have no combat training, and all I have is a shotgun I've never even loaded. My neighborhood is peaceful so far, so I don't know what will happen if the violence that is spreading in some cities ever reaches here. I will stay alive using my legal skills, if necessary, they will still need lawyers to draft wills for the soldiers, and to prosecute or defend the soldiers who are court martialed. I don't know how bad it will get, and perhaps I will need to learn more basic skills like how to build a house or how to plant crops or take care of livestock. In this future world of chaos that the liberals plan to hand to us, we will all have to adapt to whatever comes. I don't have any preparations laid in, no food, water or precious metals stocked up. I've always thought preppers were idiots, but now it seems I might have been wrong.

There are other ways to serve if war comes. First aid. Spying. What you've already mentioned


There is still time to stock up and prepare. I hope violence doesn't come for decades but being prepared is gooof

 

[Penelope]

We could be headed for civil war, all thanks to a ruling class that does all it can to keep Americans divided. Americans of all persuasions use to have much in common, not any more.

The ruling class controls the media. They can use the media to inflame Americans, some of whom will easily resort to violence. I suspect it won't take much for a civil war to begin. We know the ruling class, MSM, and the radical Left will gladly inflame any issue into violence.

The cocksucker's like soros...

LIke Rush, Hannity, Fox etc.

 

[Theowl32]

I am telling you what we are all witnessing. We are learning that we have been under control for a long long time. Been a while since we have had an actual two party system. Been a while since the actual constitution meant a thing.

It is a piece of paper that all of these politicians (republicans and democrats) have gladly wiped their bought and paid for asses with.

I will say it again. They are all determined to get rid of Trump and it is beyond clear. We have known that senators like scumbag John McCain are long bought and paid for. When these scumbags said they are taking this "obstruction of justice" thing seriously and when McCain opened his fucking face yesterday, it confirmed what I have feared for a while now.

We should wake up from this notion that it is democrats versus republicans. I am talking to you liberals too.

Wake up to what is happening and stop being like me, which is part of the machine and their little fucking game.

Wake up people. It is a civil war and that Washington cesspool is our enemy. We the people, better wake up. Sometimes it takes a fight. We are at the point now.

Trump is not your enemy. It is the entire system. Republicans, democrats, and all of those scumbags which includes the military industrial complex. That also includes the media industrial complex.

 

[Avatar4321]

Another hilarious thread. Another right wing whacko that wants to sell a book. Where's alex jones and his insanity defense. Or better yet, Tuck Buckford.

So Keith olbermann was calling for revolution to overthrow trump less than a week ago but civil war can't possibly happen?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Another hilarious thread. Another right wing whacko that wants to sell a book. Where's alex jones and his insanity defense. Or better yet, Tuck Buckford.

So Keith olbermann was calling for revolution to overthrow trump less than a week ago but civil war can't possibly happen?

I didn't say it 'couldn't happen. I said this is just about another right wing money-grubber that wants to sell books. He's a vampire like Ann Coulter who feeds on people's fear to make money.

 

[Avatar4321]

The gutless punks on the left don't have the stones for a civil war, last about 10 minutes and they would all run home to their mommas.

You wouldn't even make it out of your trailer park, internet tough guy.

So that's an interesting response. Not "You're insane for thinking we'd try to kill you.' Or "we have no desire to kill you"

No it's. "we are going to kill you before you leave your house"

It doesn't matter what your politics is, if you are fine with the idea of taking out your political opponents with violence, you are part of the problem and have no right to political power

 

[RASTAMEN]

We could be headed for civil war, all thanks to a ruling class that does all it can to keep Americans divided. Americans of all persuasions use to have much in common, not any more.

The ruling class controls the media. They can use the media to inflame Americans, some of whom will easily resort to violence. I suspect it won't take much for a civil war to begin. We know the ruling class, MSM, and the radical Left will gladly inflame any issue into violence.

What's Wrong with Conservative White People?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I be sure to run down the middle of the battle field bear ass naked! hahahaha(j/k)

No doubt with your Vienna Sausage at its full salute of 2 inches.

 

[RASTAMEN]

If it's a shooting war, I won't be much help. I have no combat training, and all I have is a shotgun I've never even loaded. My neighborhood is peaceful so far, so I don't know what will happen if the violence that is spreading in some cities ever reaches here. I will stay alive using my legal skills, if necessary, they will still need lawyers to draft wills for the soldiers, and to prosecute or defend the soldiers who are court martialed. I don't know how bad it will get, and perhaps I will need to learn more basic skills like how to build a house or how to plant crops or take care of livestock. In this future world of chaos that the liberals plan to hand to us, we will all have to adapt to whatever comes. I don't have any preparations laid in, no food, water or precious metals stocked up. I've always thought preppers were idiots, but now it seems I might have been wrong.

Liberal don't want a civil war!

 

[RASTAMEN]

We'll know thus summer. The left is already having rage seminars. The violence has escalated against people chosen for the liklihood they won't fight back. If someone does fight back, the left recoils with a pig like squeal "he HITme, waaaa".

Nope with so many people planning and training, you know something is going to pop.

Well here in Florida Stand Your Ground Law authorizes the use of deadly force, bring a boat I live on an island...

 

[RASTAMEN]

The gutless punks on the left don't have the stones for a civil war, last about 10 minutes and they would all run home to their mommas.

You wouldn't even make it out of your trailer park, internet tough guy.

So that's an interesting response. Not "You're insane for thinking we'd try to kill you.' Or "we have no desire to kill you"

No it's. "we are going to kill you before you leave your house"

It doesn't matter what your politics is, if you are fine with the idea of taking out your political opponents with violence, you are part of the problem and have no right to political power

 

[RASTAMEN]

There are to many guns in the hands of patriots so if it goes hot guess who's going to win...

THE CIVIL WAR IS HERE
The left doesn’t want to secede. It wants to rule.
March 27, 2017

Daniel Greenfield

A civil war has begun.

This civil war is very different than the last one. There are no cannons or cavalry charges. The left doesn’t want to secede. It wants to rule. Political conflicts become civil wars when one side refuses to accept the existing authority. The left has rejected all forms of authority that it doesn’t control.

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

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The left is a treasonous movement. The Democrats became a treasonous organization when they fell under the sway of a movement that rejects our system of government, its laws and its elections. Now their treason is coming to a head. They are engaged in a struggle for power against the government. That’s not protest. It’s not activism. The old treason of the sixties has come of age. A civil war has begun.

This is a primal conflict between a totalitarian system and a democratic system. Its outcome will determine whether we will be a free nation or a nation of slaves.

The Civil War is Here

I would give you 100 winners for that post.....Right on the head. OK is I post you post on another board.

 

[RASTAMEN]

May 18, 2017
It’s a Coup!
By Shari Goodman

During the last eight years, the far left and their cohorts in the Democratic Party were successfully on their way to transforming our Constitutional Republic from a country of laws into a country of men. They arrogantly believed the last election was theirs to be had with Hillary Clinton at the helm to continue Obama's legacy of "leading from behind." Their mission is the "transformation of our free market, our sovereignty, and our culture to a Socialist/Communist New World Order. They didn't count on billionaire Donald Trump, who had never before held office, to throw a wrench into their radical agenda by injecting himself into our body politic, and in return they are waging a relentless coup to have him removed from office.

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And if that isn't enough, our college campuses are actively silencing those who support President Trump with physical assaults, threats, and intimidation. Institutions of learning should provide an environment for the free exchange of ideas, but instead, young Conservatives are threatened with poor grades should they express support for President Trump and his conservative agenda. There is no diversity of thought on today's college campuses. It is fascism and group think that has taken root and those who differ are singled out as outcasts to be ridiculed and shunned at best or physically and verbally assaulted at worst.

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This coup didn't happen in a vacuum. It is a field operation led by Barack Hussein Obama from his home in Washington, D.C. while financed by Globalist billionaire George Soros. Leading this coup with Obama is his closest adviser, Valerie Jarrett, who has moved into the Obama household. They, along with their many leftist compadres still entrenched in the hierarchy of the beltway, are at the forefront of this coup. Through leaks, false narratives, lies, and misinformation they are plotting President's Trump's demise. It is a coup against President Trump and against all of us who voted for him. Americans have a decision to make. Will we succumb or will we fight back?

Read more: Articles: It’s a Coup!

 

[RASTAMEN]

 

[RASTAMEN]

How the U.S. Military Would Crush a Tea Party Rebellion





Michael Peck ,

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A right-wing militia inspired by the Tea Party movement has taken over the city of Darlington, South Carolina, arrested the local government, and declared that the federal government should be overthrown. As the militia establishes checkpoints across I-95, other extremist groups across the nation rush to declare their support. South Carolina's governor - a Tea Party supporter - declines to send in law enforcement to quash the militia, but quietly asks for federal intervention. The President invokes the Insurrection Act to authorize the use of federal troops, as the Pentagon prepares for war at home....

This is a drill, repeat, this is a drill. Actually, it's a thought exercise by two authors exploring just how the U.S. military would respond to domestic insurrection. It sounds almost paranoid, except that nine days after Obama's reelection, petitions for secession have sprouted in all 50 states, gun sales have soared for fear of what a second term means for gun owners, and white nationalist groups are elated over Obama's victory. Add in a stagnant economy, a polarized electorate, and perhaps some disgruntled Afghanistan and Iraq veterans, and domestic strife seems improbable but not impossible.

The scenario appeared last July - before Obama's reelection - in the respected Small Wars Journal. The article, titled "Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A 'Vision' of the Future", was written by Kevin Benson, a retired Army colonel who teaches at University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and Jennifer Weber, a history professor at University of Kansas and a Civil War historian.

Benson and Weber (the team sounds like a cigarette brand) explored how the military might domestically apply its concept of full spectrum operations, which cover everything from all-out war to counterinsurgency and nation-building. In fact, the Army's operating concept for 2016 to 2028 considers highly likely a future where the U.S. is threatened by "radical U.S. citizens operating domestically and abroad". The Pentagon was probably thinking of Al Qaeda sympathizers in the U.S., but radicals come in all flavors.


Benson and Weber boldly argue that "if we face a period of persistent global conflict as outlined in successive National Security Strategy documents, then Army officers are professionally obligated to consider the conduct of operations on U.S. soil." They also argue that preparations for such a scenario must begin now, including proper equipment for the U.S. military as well as liaison between federal and state authorities. Actually, the issue is really the conduct of operations against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil, but Benson and Weber (who declined to speak with the War Games blog) depict a convoluted situation where the military intervenes in South Carolina using techniques honed by hunting Taliban, while still trying to remain within the law.

Make no mistake, this isn't the Pentagon providing military support to hurricane victims, or even sending troops to support local authorities as during the 1992 Los Angeles riots. This is a war. There will be casualties. Refugees from the fighting must be housed and fed. But it's a strange kind of war. Thus U.S. forces begin, as any combat forces would, by attempting to collect intelligence on enemy forces - but then have to erase the intel within 90 days after operations are completed, in order not to run afoul of federal privacy laws. They will be eavesdropping on "enemy" communications, but only with a court order. They must depend on local law enforcement for information on the rebels, but the local cops may be rebel sympathizers. There will be "information/influence operations designed to present a picture of the federal response and the inevitable defeat of the insurrection."


Curiously, the authors don't really delve the fundamental issue of American soldiers firing on American civilians, except to note that troops would have to comply with standing rules on force, which require graduated levels of violence. Civil support in South Carolina makes counterinsurgency in Kabul look like a picnic.

Predictably, the Small Wars Journal article drew fire from outraged conservative newspapers and protestors. The critics missed the point. This wasn't really aimed at the far right, except that insofar as there are heavily armed groups in America that dispute the authority of the federal government, they do tend be right-wing. Yet this scenario could just as easily be applied to radical left violence like the 1999 Battle of Seattle riots.

Benson and Weber present a scenario that is somewhat artificial. For example, American law enforcement has become militarized after 9/11. Who needs to call in Army troops when your local police force has armored vehicles, grenade launchers and automatic weapons? One has to wonder if a militia would be so formidable that the state National Guard couldn't handle it. But then the premise of Benson and Weber's scenario is that local authorities might not be able to trust local forces to fight rebels, or that local voters might punish politicians who try to do so.

The old gun lobby line that a pack of civilians with hunting rifles will stop a tyrannical federal government is silly. This isn't 1776, the U.S. military is a tad better equipped than King George's redcoats, and if the U.S. Army decides to crush an insurrection, it will do so. But it is also true that the nature of warfare is changing, as the spread of high-tech weapons has the Pentagon worried that even weak states can field missiles that make sending in the Marines a bloody operation. If Hamas and Hezbollah can obtain anti-tank missiles, why not a Michigan militia or a Los Angeles street gang? If drug cartels deploy heavy weapons on the Mexico-U.S. border, then perhaps only the U.S. military has the firepower to stop them.

However, the real question is this: under what circumstances should federal troops conduct military operations against American citizens on American soil? Is this scenario likely enough that the U.S. military prepare for such operations, or should we worry that preparation will inevitably lead to action? Note the part about American soil, because American supporters of Al Qaeda are already being killed on foreign soil. Laws like the Insurrection Act and Posse Comitatus are designed to tightly restrict using the military against the American people. But if there were a rebellion, I wonder if the President would stand on legalities. Lincoln is remembered for winning the Civil War, not suspending habeus corpus.