The Carrier Deal

[Moonglow]

They got the 7 mil and still will be moving jobs...

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will slap a 35% tariff on the stuff they make in Mexico.

Yeah, that's even more hypocrisy on the part of Trump and his Chumps.

Protectionism is a LIBERAL thing.

Liberalism is not a political party..

 

[g5000]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

 

[Moonglow]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency.

This liberal learned solid state electronics for high tech jobs, so you have a grave misconception of liberals..Tariffs were and have been the basis of repressing imports since this nation was founded, so again, you are wrong..

 

[Claudette]

Donald Trump and Mike Pence got Carrier to stay in Pence's state of Indiana by giving them a $7 million bribe that will have to be made up for by Indiana's taxpayers.

Sarah Palin has called this the usual crony capitalism that has NOT been making America great.

So much for a level playing field, boys and girls.

Why don't you mention Oregon's "bribe" to Nike, or Massoftwoshit's "bribe" to Amazon, or Nevada's "bribe" to Ebay?

From what I've read its seven million dollars in State tax breaks over ten years.

Its also more about United Technologies and their Federal Contract status.

Carrier said in the statement, “the incentives offered by the state were an important consideration” in the agreement.

No matter how you want to look at it those thousand jobs will be staying in Indiana.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

Donald Trump and Mike Pence got Carrier to stay in Pence's state of Indiana by giving them a $7 million bribe that will have to be made up for by Indiana's taxpayers.

Sarah Palin has called this the usual crony capitalism that has NOT been making America great.

So much for a level playing field, boys and girls.

Why don't you mention Oregon's "bribe" to NIke, or Massoftwoshit's "bribe" to Amazon, or Nevada's "bribe" to Ebay?

Two Wrongs Make A Right Winger™.

Hypocrites.

My views on tax expenditures have been made ABUNDANTLY clear on this forum, moron.

Clear you are an idiot.

 

[g5000]

They got the 7 mil and still will be moving jobs...

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will slap a 35% tariff on the stuff they make in Mexico.

Yeah, that's even more hypocrisy on the part of Trump and his Chumps.

Protectionism is a LIBERAL thing.

Liberalism is not a political party..

Protectionism has dwelled in the bosom of the Democratic party for decades.

I guess Trump wants to take us back to the last inexperienced businessman who became a Republican President. Herbert Hoover. Maybe that's what he is talking about when he says he is going to Make America Great Again.

Smoot-Hawley was a Republican tariff scheme enacted on Hoover's watch.

Hoover. Smooth-Hawley. That worked out well!

 

[g5000]

High tariffs are definitely a liberal Democratic thing these days.

Trump is going to get the pseudocons to sign off on every liberal idea for the past 50 years. One by one.

 

[idb]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

Funny...I really thought that was a conservative thing.
Hanging on to old technology like coal.
Rejecting new technology like solar.
Insisting on teaching religion in schools.
Resisting teaching science if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Looking back to the good old days.

Conservative vs Progressive...it's in the name isn't it?

 

[Moonglow]

They got the 7 mil and still will be moving jobs...

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will slap a 35% tariff on the stuff they make in Mexico.

Yeah, that's even more hypocrisy on the part of Trump and his Chumps.

Protectionism is a LIBERAL thing.

Liberalism is not a political party..

Protectionism has dwelled in the bosom of the Democratic party for decades.

I guess Trump wants to take us back to the last inexperienced businessman who became a Republican President. Herbert Hoover. Maybe that's what he is talking about when he says he is going to Make America Great Again.

Smoot-Hawley was a Republican tariff scheme enacted on Hoover's watch.

Hoover. Smooth-Hawley. That worked out well!

But Hoover was a democrat...according to g5000...

 

[Moonglow]

Donald Trump and Mike Pence got Carrier to stay in Pence's state of Indiana by giving them a $7 million bribe that will have to be made up for by Indiana's taxpayers.

Sarah Palin has called this the usual crony capitalism that has NOT been making America great.

So much for a level playing field, boys and girls.

Why don't you mention Oregon's "bribe" to NIke, or Massoftwoshit's "bribe" to Amazon, or Nevada's "bribe" to Ebay?

Two Wrongs Make A Right Winger™.

Hypocrites.

My views on tax expenditures have been made ABUNDANTLY clear on this forum, moron.

Clear you are an idiot.

He's happy he lives in a split level head...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Donald Trump and Mike Pence got Carrier to stay in Pence's state of Indiana by giving them a $7 million bribe that will have to be made up for by Indiana's taxpayers.

Sarah Palin has called this the usual crony capitalism that has NOT been making America great.

So much for a level playing field, boys and girls.

They didnt pay them shit you ******* moron..

Tax break= tax payers dont pay a damn thing

? Who makes up the 7 mil that won't be paid by Carrier? Tax payers.

Make up what? Cut services another one that is Anti jobs.



.

 

[g5000]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

Funny...I really thought that was a conservative thing.
Hanging on to old technology like coal.
Rejecting new technology like solar.
Insisting on teaching religion in schools.
Resisting teaching science if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Looking back to the good old days.

Conservative vs Progressive...it's in the name isn't it?

And guess what is finally kicking coal's ass?

Hint: It isn't solar. Solar was never going to replace coal any time soon.

Hint: It wasn't government subsidies.

It is market forces. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. The pseudocons have been lied to. They think the reason coal is losing these days is because of government regulation. Trump is still lying to them, and lying to the coal industry workers. Coal is fucked, and any honest politician would tell them that. Fucked like horse and buggy factory workers.

But the truth is that it was the markets which determined the winner. THAT is what REAL conservatism is about. Despite solar getting a leg up from government, the market still beat the shit out of dirty coal the old fashioned way.

Liberals should look and learn. The market always has a funny way of sorting our problems out.

 

[Wyatt earp]

They got the 7 mil and still will be moving jobs...

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will slap a 35% tariff on the stuff they make in Mexico.

Yeah, that's even more hypocrisy on the part of Trump and his Chumps.

Protectionism is a LIBERAL thing.

Liberalism is not a political party..

Protectionism has dwelled in the bosom of the Democratic party for decades.

I guess Trump wants to take us back to the last inexperienced businessman who became a Republican President. Herbert Hoover. Maybe that's what he is talking about when he says he is going to Make America Great Again.

Smoot-Hawley was a Republican tariff scheme enacted on Hoover's watch.

Hoover. Smooth-Hawley. That worked out well!

But Hoover was a democrat...according to g5000...

I wouldnt doubt that he said that.



.

 

[Norman]

Sarah Palin:

When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent. Meanwhile, the invisible hand that best orchestrates a free people’s free enterprise system gets amputated. Then, special interests creep in and manipulate markets. Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail.

So, now you are a big fan of Sarah Palin?

To the point of not even being able to open a dictionary to figure out the difference between making a deal and giving a bribe.

 

[RDD_1210]

So let's see. Carrier gets a $7M reduction in taxes over 10 years, has to invest $16M in retooling its plan in Indiana, and 800 people keep their jobs.

Sounds like a good model to roll out across the country: Lower Taxes For Everyone!

It apparently is egregious to G5000, another Repub who votes Dem.

You are a liar. This is what retards do. When they have an information vacuum, they make shit up!

I am a lifelong Republican conservative, dumbass.

You dumb ***** don't know a conservative principle when it bites you in the neck.

I LOVE faux Repub meltdowns Please proceed

Says the guy who was a liberal just a few months ago.

Hilarious.

 

[NoNukes]

Donald Trump and Mike Pence got Carrier to stay in Pence's state of Indiana by giving them a $7 million bribe that will have to be made up for by Indiana's taxpayers.

Sarah Palin has called this the usual crony capitalism that has NOT been making America great.

So much for a level playing field, boys and girls.

Why don't you mention Oregon's "bribe" to NIke, or Massoftwoshit's "bribe" to Amazon, or Nevada's "bribe" to Ebay?

Two Wrongs Make A Right Winger™.

Hypocrites.

My views on tax expenditures have been made ABUNDANTLY clear on this forum, moron.

Clear you are an idiot.

Calling an intelligent person an idiot makes you the idiot.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

Funny...I really thought that was a conservative thing.
Hanging on to old technology like coal.
Rejecting new technology like solar.
Insisting on teaching religion in schools.
Resisting teaching science if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Looking back to the good old days.

Conservative vs Progressive...it's in the name isn't it?

And guess what is finally kicking coal's ass?

Hint: It isn't solar.

Hint: It wasn't government subsidies.

It is market forces. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. The pseudocons have been lied to. They think it was government regulation.

But the truth is that it was the markets which determined the winner. THAT is what REAL conservatism is about. Despite solar getting a leg up from government, the market still beat the shit out of dirty coal the old fashioned way.

Liberals should look and learn. The market always has a funny way of sorting our problems out.

You lying mother ****** its been a 30 year war on coal by the government and tree huggers...you made coal more expensive ...

Take smokes for example the northern citys taxed the **** out of it so in some places its over $12 bucks a pack.


Same with ******* coal..with rules and regulations you made coal waaay more expensive then it really is



Again Quit trying to bull shit



.

 

[idb]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

Funny...I really thought that was a conservative thing.
Hanging on to old technology like coal.
Rejecting new technology like solar.
Insisting on teaching religion in schools.
Resisting teaching science if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Looking back to the good old days.

Conservative vs Progressive...it's in the name isn't it?

And guess what is finally kicking coal's ass?

Hint: It isn't solar.

Hint: It wasn't government subsidies.

It is market forces. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. The pseudocons have been lied to. They think the reason coal is losing these days is because of government regulation.

But the truth is that it was the markets which determined the winner. THAT is what REAL conservatism is about. Despite solar getting a leg up from government, the market still beat the shit out of dirty coal the old fashioned way.

Liberals should look and learn. The market always has a funny way of sorting our problems out.

So, it's either/or?
When has a single energy source been relied on exclusively?
Sure, gas is cheap and plentiful at the moment but it's hardly a leap into the future and solar is rising as a technology.

 

[whitehall]

New York does it every freaking day and has done it for the last freaking five years with their campaign to entice businesses with low taxes but small businesses and corporations seem too smart than to fall for the democrat party's promises.

 

[g5000]

Protectionism is popular with people who can't keep up. They want the old low tech jobs to be high paying jobs forever.

Rather than concentrate on education and training their kids for the jobs of tomorrow, they think their kids should be able to go to work in a horse and buggy factory at $40 an hour, and that we should put high tariffs on foreign buggies.

That's EXACTLY how LIBERALS think.

They fail to realize that a large part of the jobs that are gone did not go overseas. They are just flat out GONE. Obsoleted by capital investments in technology and efficiency which have paid off handsomely for the owners.

Funny...I really thought that was a conservative thing.
Hanging on to old technology like coal.
Rejecting new technology like solar.
Insisting on teaching religion in schools.
Resisting teaching science if it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Looking back to the good old days.

Conservative vs Progressive...it's in the name isn't it?

And guess what is finally kicking coal's ass?

Hint: It isn't solar.

Hint: It wasn't government subsidies.

It is market forces. Natural gas is kicking coal's ass. The pseudocons have been lied to. They think it was government regulation.

But the truth is that it was the markets which determined the winner. THAT is what REAL conservatism is about. Despite solar getting a leg up from government, the market still beat the shit out of dirty coal the old fashioned way.

Liberals should look and learn. The market always has a funny way of sorting our problems out.

You lying mother ****** its been a 30 year war on coal by the government and tree huggers...you made coal more expensive ...

Take smokes for example the northern citys taxed the **** out of it so in some places its over $12 bucks a pack.


Same with ******* coal..with rules and regulations you made coal waaay more expensive then it really is



Again Quit trying to bull shit



.

You are talking out of your ass. You clearly have zero knowledge about the commodities markets.

By the way. Since we are on the subject of tax expenditures, you tards should actually take the time to read the thousands and thousands of carve-outs in the tax code.

You'll be amazed how many are in there for the coal industry.