The Bush legacy

[NYcarbineer]

The rewriting of history is in full swing now on Iraq and Bush.

The fabricators, revisionists, and just plain liars are, of course, simply a bunch of guilt-ridden pathologically prideful fools who cannot face the fact that simply admitting they were wrong about Iraq is the only honorable and honest course of action.

 

[Caroljo]

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Gosh, the families of 5,000 dead young American soldiers and multiple thousands more young maimed American soldiers may think something's missing from that list.

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If they do they are just as ignorant as YOU are in that the "1991 CEASE FIRE" the first time Saddam invaded Kuwait was SIGNED by Saddam NOT to violate the CEASE FIRE or the CEASE FIRE would discontinue and FIRE would continue... it just took 12 years, dozens of more UN resolutions AND THESE Democrats along with the SENATE AND HOUSE to sign oh a little inconsequential event known as 9/11 to the following:

First Clinton did..
The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 Public law 105-338 CNN - Clinton: Iraq has abused its last chance - December 16, 1998 signed The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 Public law 105-338 expressed the sense
of congress it should be policy to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime.

BEFORE BUSH and idiots like you obviously DON"T REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE...
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

Explain why Clinton said this after bombing Iraq???
“Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction.” — Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

* Ted Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant,
and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.” — Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

* Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont)
* Carl Levin (D-Michigan)
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
* Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland)


Congress passes Resolution of 2002 (Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502)
"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq " Introduced as H.J.Res. 114, it passed the House on October 10, 2002 by a vote of 296-133, (68.9% of the house)
the Senate on October 11 by a vote of 77-23. (77%) The resolution cited many factors to justify action:

1 * Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons
inspectors
2 * Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat
to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region"
3 * Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population"
4 * Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own
people"
5 * Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt of
former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones
following the 1991 Gulf War
6 * Members of al-Qaida were "known to be in Iraq"
7 * Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States
terrorist organizations
8 * Fear that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against the United States
9 * The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight the 9/11 terrorists and those who aided
or harbored them
10 * The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism

BUT of course BUSH being that totally superior criminal able to convince ALL these people to his way of thinking... (which is really contradictory with the Bush BASHERS
statements "Bush was a buffoon... was an ape... was a ignorant...!!!)

So again... when you make that totally Bush BASHING statement remember you are also parrotting what the MSM was doing to Bush!!!

Evan Thomas Editor of NewsWeek's quotes Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

But that will never happen under Obama because this same editor's his response about Obama???

I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God."
Evan Thomas on Hardball, Newsweek?s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ?Sort of God? | NewsBusters

In the opinion of historians 20 years from now Bush will go down as one of the GREATEST Presidents who had 4 major cataclysmic events something no other President has faced!
And because the MSM was so against Bush as they donated and voted 85% to the Democrats... Bush's reputation will be even more respected!

I don't know how many times this has been posted here, but yet no lib has any good response to it. They just ignore it and go on hoping everyone forgets

 

[Unkotare]

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Gosh, the families of 5,000 dead young American soldiers and multiple thousands more young maimed American soldiers may think something's missing from that list.

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GWB did not kill ay of thoise kids, nor did mame the rest
with out terror these events never occur
you might want to blame those who actually did the harm

Yes, the Commander in Chief who first put them in harm's way.

If they were not there in the first place, would they be dead/maimed?
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And yet liberals just loooooooooooove FDR. Hypocrites.

 

[NYcarbineer]

GWB did not kill ay of thoise kids, nor did mame the rest
with out terror these events never occur
you might want to blame those who actually did the harm

Bush killed every one of them. Bush pulled the trigger. No one else had the power to pull the trigger.

We have a volunteer military. My son joined just after the Iraq war began. All of our military know what they're in for if they join. Nobody forced them to do this. My son tells me that if Obama had been president at the time, he would have never joined. They trusted Bush and most still do.

Just like Bush had the power, so does Obama. Why did Obama go to bed on the night of the Benghazi attack and not stay on his job and making sure everything was done that could be? With your logic, Obama IS responsible for the deaths of those 4 Americans that night. Twice as many military have died under Obama than had under Bush in Afghanistan, in only 4 yrs. I guess that blood on HIS hands, isn't it?

That's the dumbest and most dishonest post I've seen all week.

 

[Caroljo]

Bush killed every one of them. Bush pulled the trigger. No one else had the power to pull the trigger.

We have a volunteer military. My son joined just after the Iraq war began. All of our military know what they're in for if they join. Nobody forced them to do this. My son tells me that if Obama had been president at the time, he would have never joined. They trusted Bush and most still do.

Just like Bush had the power, so does Obama. Why did Obama go to bed on the night of the Benghazi attack and not stay on his job and making sure everything was done that could be? With your logic, Obama IS responsible for the deaths of those 4 Americans that night. Twice as many military have died under Obama than had under Bush in Afghanistan, in only 4 yrs. I guess that blood on HIS hands, isn't it?

That is sad really

Just sad

I can see how the truth makes you sad......

 

[NYcarbineer]

One minute the inmates are praising Bush for his brilliant decision to invade Iraq,

the next minute they're trying to blame the decision on the Democrats.

That's the tell:

You know that these 'nuts, deep down, accept that fact that the Iraq War was a disaster...

...why else would they ever insist on reminding us how many Democrats voted for it?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Using this sentence to describe the President during 9-11 is insulting

so under Clinton or Gore this would not have happened?......

You can make all the arguments that you want that it was not Bush's fault

You cannot make the argument that he kept us safe

and you can make that same argument with anyone else who may have been President at the time.....the same guys in the various Security agencies who are actually out there looking for this type of thing to try and stop it.....were the same guys under Clinton as they were under Bush...even if Gore was President this thing in all likely hood would have still happened....

 

[kaz]

Charles Krauthammer: The Bush legacy - The Washington Post
A great opinion wrote by CK of the post

Let me add not only was both wars a success, his tax rates created millions of jobs until the wealth boom caused by greed and not policy crashed in 08
To me GWB biggest failures were
Immigration reform
Not funding Medicare D
And no child left behind
in 2007 this country stood at the door step of a balanced budget, the last GOP budget
BHO and the dems added 700 billion to that base-line by 2009 and along with the press gave blame to W

A truly great president during 8 very difficult years

Bush's biggest political failing was a complete lack of self awareness. By not responding to Democrats and other enemies of America, he pictured himself Reaganesque, above the fray. But the reality is he looked clueless and uninformed.

Reagan was keenly aware of what the Democrats were saying and doing, and made that clear. He just didn't sling mud with them. For example in the debate when Mondale went on the liberal diatribe and Reagan looked at him and said, "there you go again..." Everyone laughed, no one thought he hadn't heard what he said.

Bush on the other hand just ignored opponents. The Democrats started eroding the support Bush had and then openly turned against us in Iraq and W defended, explained and acknowledged nothing at all. Being the only voice, the left won. And it continued as he got one issue after another twisted by the left. You don't have to get in the trough with the Democrats, but you have to challenge their crap or the public just thinks you can't because they are right. There was nothing Reaganesque about him at all.

What he did was set up the wave of Democrats sweeping into office and passing their pinnacle of socialism, Obamacare. He was a horrible President with terrible policies. But the worst thing he did was set us up for even a more horrible President with even more terrible policies.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I don't know how many times this has been posted here, but yet no lib has any good response to it.

Horse shit.

(1) unlawful war that made our leaders war criminals and We the People accessories

(2) led to an Iraq that is allying with Iran and supporting Assad's Syria

(3) nearly wrecked our economy

That is the legacy of George W. Bush.

 

[Unkotare]

Bush killed every one of them. Bush pulled the trigger. No one else had the power to pull the trigger.

We have a volunteer military. My son joined just after the Iraq war began. All of our military know what they're in for if they join. Nobody forced them to do this. My son tells me that if Obama had been president at the time, he would have never joined. They trusted Bush and most still do.

Just like Bush had the power, so does Obama. Why did Obama go to bed on the night of the Benghazi attack and not stay on his job and making sure everything was done that could be? With your logic, Obama IS responsible for the deaths of those 4 Americans that night. Twice as many military have died under Obama than had under Bush in Afghanistan, in only 4 yrs. I guess that blood on HIS hands, isn't it?

That's the dumbest and most dishonest post I've seen all week.

How so?

 

[Warrior102]

I love watching Libberhoids dabble/comment on military issues. It's like listening to two garbage men talk about aerodynamics.

 

[JRK]

Using this sentence to describe the President during 9-11 is insulting

so under Clinton or Gore this would not have happened?......

You can make all the arguments that you want that it was not Bush's fault

You cannot make the argument that he kept us safe

Yes we can
and yes we are
we lived in a pre GWB world on 9-11-2001
no-one could have prevented that attack in the world we lived in at that time
after it
with a little provacation to the ones we caught that you call torture
allot of hard work and courage by many great people that many on the left call muderers
HE DID, He led this country out of the craziest event in this countries history sense 1861
And he kept us safe from that point on
You may not like it, but your going to have to live with it
BHO has not changed none of it, in fact if any-thing he picked it up a notch

 

[JRK]

Charles Krauthammer: The Bush legacy - The Washington Post
A great opinion wrote by CK of the post

Let me add not only was both wars a success, his tax rates created millions of jobs until the wealth boom caused by greed and not policy crashed in 08
To me GWB biggest failures were
Immigration reform
Not funding Medicare D
And no child left behind
in 2007 this country stood at the door step of a balanced budget, the last GOP budget
BHO and the dems added 700 billion to that base-line by 2009 and along with the press gave blame to W

A truly great president during 8 very difficult years

Bush's biggest political failing was a complete lack of self awareness. By not responding to Democrats and other enemies of America, he pictured himself Reaganesque, above the fray. But the reality is he looked clueless and uninformed.

Reagan was keenly aware of what the Democrats were saying and doing, and made that clear. He just didn't sling mud with them. For example in the debate when Mondale went on the liberal diatribe and Reagan looked at him and said, "there you go again..." Everyone laughed, no one thought he hadn't heard what he said.

Bush on the other hand just ignored opponents. The Democrats started eroding the support Bush had and then openly turned against us in Iraq and W defended, explained and acknowledged nothing at all. Being the only voice, the left won. And it continued as he got one issue after another twisted by the left. You don't have to get in the trough with the Democrats, but you have to challenge their crap or the public just thinks you can't because they are right. There was nothing Reaganesque about him at all.

What he did was set up the wave of Democrats sweeping into office and passing their pinnacle of socialism, Obamacare. He was a horrible President with terrible policies. But the worst thing he did was set us up for even a more horrible President with even more terrible policies.

They swept into office because of the non stop lying that the main stream media did as well as the left
WMDs existed
every-one knew that
by 2005 every-one forgot it and the lying just keep on going
No child left behind was a dem bill BTW. Tarp was Bi partisan
we got a budget passed until 2008 when GWB refused to sign the "Omnibus" bill

While the left lied about Iraq, they lied about the economy. they lied about everything and blamed it all on GWB with the main stream media backing them on every step

 

[Caroljo]

One minute the inmates are praising Bush for his brilliant decision to invade Iraq,

the next minute they're trying to blame the decision on the Democrats.

That's the tell:

You know that these 'nuts, deep down, accept that fact that the Iraq War was a disaster...

...why else would they ever insist on reminding us how many Democrats voted for it?

NOBODY is blaming the decision on the democrats....that's not what i said. But just pointing out the democrats were part of the decision!

 

[Caroljo]

We have a volunteer military. My son joined just after the Iraq war began. All of our military know what they're in for if they join. Nobody forced them to do this. My son tells me that if Obama had been president at the time, he would have never joined. They trusted Bush and most still do.

Just like Bush had the power, so does Obama. Why did Obama go to bed on the night of the Benghazi attack and not stay on his job and making sure everything was done that could be? With your logic, Obama IS responsible for the deaths of those 4 Americans that night. Twice as many military have died under Obama than had under Bush in Afghanistan, in only 4 yrs. I guess that blood on HIS hands, isn't it?

That's the dumbest and most dishonest post I've seen all week.

How so?

There's no answer to that .... NY just didn't have a better come back then that! Lol!

 

[rightwinger]

neither did Clinton or Obama, and if you people claim they did, that is a insult..

9,000 Americans died under Bush "keeping us safe"

More than Obama, Clinton, GHW Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Carter and Ford combined

RW....should not "keeping us safe" just include us here in the Country?.....guys fighting a war in some shit hole is different....as far as i am concerned.....

I don't believe invading Iraq kept us safe. Saddam had been contained for ten years and had not killed a single American

I intentionally left off the Afghanistan casualties because I think they actually involved fighting terrorism

 

[NYcarbineer]

One minute the inmates are praising Bush for his brilliant decision to invade Iraq,

the next minute they're trying to blame the decision on the Democrats.

That's the tell:

You know that these 'nuts, deep down, accept that fact that the Iraq War was a disaster...

...why else would they ever insist on reminding us how many Democrats voted for it?

NOBODY is blaming the decision on the democrats....that's not what i said. But just pointing out the democrats were part of the decision!

Nobody's blaming the Democrats?

I do. And I'm hardly alone. Did you happen to notice in 2008 that Hillary Clinton, the odds-on favorite to win the Democratic nomination,

and, an unrepentant supporter of the Iraq War,

got beaten by Barack Obama, an adamant opponent of the Iraq War?

 

[NYcarbineer]

We have a volunteer military. My son joined just after the Iraq war began. All of our military know what they're in for if they join. Nobody forced them to do this. My son tells me that if Obama had been president at the time, he would have never joined. They trusted Bush and most still do.

Just like Bush had the power, so does Obama. Why did Obama go to bed on the night of the Benghazi attack and not stay on his job and making sure everything was done that could be? With your logic, Obama IS responsible for the deaths of those 4 Americans that night. Twice as many military have died under Obama than had under Bush in Afghanistan, in only 4 yrs. I guess that blood on HIS hands, isn't it?

That's the dumbest and most dishonest post I've seen all week.

How so?

The idea that because we have a volunteer military that makes it okay for some president to flush their lives down the toilet in some unnecessary war is idiocy.

 

[kaz]

Charles Krauthammer: The Bush legacy - The Washington Post
A great opinion wrote by CK of the post

Let me add not only was both wars a success, his tax rates created millions of jobs until the wealth boom caused by greed and not policy crashed in 08
To me GWB biggest failures were
Immigration reform
Not funding Medicare D
And no child left behind
in 2007 this country stood at the door step of a balanced budget, the last GOP budget
BHO and the dems added 700 billion to that base-line by 2009 and along with the press gave blame to W

A truly great president during 8 very difficult years

Bush's biggest political failing was a complete lack of self awareness. By not responding to Democrats and other enemies of America, he pictured himself Reaganesque, above the fray. But the reality is he looked clueless and uninformed.

Reagan was keenly aware of what the Democrats were saying and doing, and made that clear. He just didn't sling mud with them. For example in the debate when Mondale went on the liberal diatribe and Reagan looked at him and said, "there you go again..." Everyone laughed, no one thought he hadn't heard what he said.

Bush on the other hand just ignored opponents. The Democrats started eroding the support Bush had and then openly turned against us in Iraq and W defended, explained and acknowledged nothing at all. Being the only voice, the left won. And it continued as he got one issue after another twisted by the left. You don't have to get in the trough with the Democrats, but you have to challenge their crap or the public just thinks you can't because they are right. There was nothing Reaganesque about him at all.

What he did was set up the wave of Democrats sweeping into office and passing their pinnacle of socialism, Obamacare. He was a horrible President with terrible policies. But the worst thing he did was set us up for even a more horrible President with even more terrible policies.

They swept into office because of the non stop lying that the main stream media did as well as the left
WMDs existed
every-one knew that
by 2005 every-one forgot it and the lying just keep on going
No child left behind was a dem bill BTW. Tarp was Bi partisan
we got a budget passed until 2008 when GWB refused to sign the "Omnibus" bill

While the left lied about Iraq, they lied about the economy. they lied about everything and blamed it all on GWB with the main stream media backing them on every step

I'm not sure I see anything you said that disagreed with what I said.

 

[rdean]

The decision to invade was made entirely by Bush

You are one dumb shitforbrained idiot...

YEAs — 77 (This would be who voted FOR the Iraq War, dumbfuck).

Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

And this was why those Americans were "tricked" into voting for war. At this late date, to not know that, your brain has to be "mush".