The Bolton Bombshell (from his book)

[protectionist]

That's not corruption, gramps. That's Biden bragging about getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor.

See what I mean folks ? They're deranged.

 

[protectionist]

Post whatever makes you feel better. Meanwhile, the rest of us will laugh at you for not being able to understand the BEA regularly adjusts figures as more data comes in.

That doesn't make the data wrong nor does it mean career civil servants of all political flavors are cooking any books. It means the data is more accurate.

And the best part is -- it doesn't matter how much butthurt you suffer for it.

Nice try. Fact is, if what you said were true, pertaining to the BEA, there wouldn't be the statistical, anomaly consistency they show, favorable to Obama, and unfavorable to Trump. Quite obvious what they've been doing. Ho Hum.

Maybe you's be better off at something other than this. Tried ping pong, backgammon, or Scattergories yet ?

 

[colfax_m]

That's not corruption, gramps. That's Biden bragging about getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor.

See what I mean folks ? They're deranged.

Y’all love your corrupt prosecutors don’t ya.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Drafts of the book outline the potential testimony of the former national security adviser if he were called as a witness in the president’s impeachment trial.

WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.

NYT: Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Demands for Inquiries, Bolton Book Says

John Bolton Reportedly Recalls Trump Tying Ukraine Aid To Biden Investigation

How can Republicans not vote for witnesses after this? By Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt. They are two of the Times best and most credible reporters.

The Trump minions will make an excuse for everything he does, no matter how much it is counter to the principles our country was built on. They are a cult, not a political party.
They will explain away Trump having his AG step in to reduce the sentencing of a friend of Trump's; Stopne. This is what dictatorships do, not a democratic Republic with separation of powers.

 

[Faun]

That's not corruption, gramps. That's Biden bragging about getting rid of a corrupt prosecutor.

See what I mean folks ? They're deranged.

LOL

Slobbers a senile old coot.

Here are just a few of the Ukrainians who threatened to remove their president at tbd time unless he got rid of Shokin, because he was corrupt...

Elected on a promise to reform Ukraine and fight corruption, reformers now fear Poroshenko has gone off course. The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country’s corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokin—a request Poroshenko has ignored. ​

 

[Faun]

Post whatever makes you feel better. Meanwhile, the rest of us will laugh at you for not being able to understand the BEA regularly adjusts figures as more data comes in.

That doesn't make the data wrong nor does it mean career civil servants of all political flavors are cooking any books. It means the data is more accurate.

And the best part is -- it doesn't matter how much butthurt you suffer for it.

Nice try. Fact is, if what you said were true, pertaining to the BEA, there wouldn't be the statistical, anomaly consistency they show, favorable to Obama, and unfavorable to Trump. Quite obvious what they've been doing. Ho Hum.

Maybe you's be better off at something other than this. Tried ping pong, backgammon, or Scattergories yet ?

Poor, baby.

 

[22lcidw]

The way impeachment is supposed to work is the House calls all the witnesses and get all the testimony on transcripts. Then the senate is supposed to have the actual hearing from those transcripts.
There are not supposed to be any NEW witnesses that have not already testified before the House.
It is like the supreme court, who also never get any new witness testimony.

But the only corruption we have evidence of is Hunter Biden getting paid kickbacks from US foreign aid.
And why was that never investigated?

There's never been an impeachment trial before that didn't call witnesses. This was a first.

Sure, but had they followed Bubba's impeachment trial example and had closed door testimony and only presented excerpts as testimony, would you have been appeased and not carried on about "No witnesses, no witnesses!"? Not likely.

There was a fundamental difference between the two Impeachments. With Clinton, the investigation was done in private by an Independent Counsel for a year. All depositions and evidence gathering were done in secret before the Congress ever got involved. Whereas with Impeached Trump, that was done by the House inquiry where the right screeched how unfair it was and even stormed their hearing with proverbial torches and pitchforks.

Its just that we don't care. A political body that has lied to us for years and decades. Calls to impeach a man long before the election. Sounds more like a Communist ploy against an arch rival running against a corrupted and sour smelling system.

Grow a pair. The right was trying to disqualify Obama from before he was president, up until he left office.

There may have been people on the right that did not like Obama. But they were afraid. For obvious reasons. You saw the riots from the antifa communist groups and african americans as the whole system was corrupted with anarchists and pure progs put into top positions. No one tried to stop them. I told you before. You are the consolation prize. Death, destruction and carnage is a great vengeance and vendetta to people who ph uk with others. America had a good run. We are now on fumes with a tattered constitution. And the current president standing in the way of the route to total meltdown.

 

[protectionist]

Y’all love your corrupt prosecutors don’t ya.

"Corrupt", by investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma ?

As for Biden's corruption, it wouldn't matter who the prosecutor was. the mere fact that he demanded something from somebody under a threat is HIS corruption, which he publicized.

 

[protectionist]

Poor, baby.

My guy is in the White House. Nor yours.

Wanna go have tea ?........with >>

 

[justoffal]

Like the debt
Taking credit for wages going up even though those minimum wage increases were passed by 13 states, not him.
2.3% growth we had in 2019

We already had low unemployment and a good economy before Trump passed those tax breaks. They only gave the economy a jolt for 1 year. Now things are back to what they were on Obama's watch only now we don't have all that $ coming in because Trump gave all the corporations and rich people tax breaks they didn't need and we couldn't afford.

Twice as many companies paying zero taxes under Trump tax bill

1. There IS NO debt that the US owes. The whole idea is absurd. Example: Hard to imagine the US owing a "debt" to China, who wouldn't even exist right now if the US had not saved their butts in World War 2 ( and sacrificed many thoudsands of lives in the process). Interesting how young people throw the word "debt" around so loosely.

2. The median wage (at $61,400) is the highest it's ever been. A few small minimum wage increases are not much responsible for this. Of much greater significance, is the lowered corporate tax rate.
.
3. The 2.3% GDP growth rate comes from the BEA, which is a books-cooking laughingstock, packed with Obama holdovers.. The true GDP is probably about twice that number.

Oh don't say the GDP is fake because it's bad. Then when it's good take credit for it. Can't have it both ways ya conspiracy theorist.

When it was very good from Trump (4.2%), BEA deceivers lowered it to 3.5. Simultaneously, they raised Obama's pitiful 1.8 GDP to 2.5. All their changes improved Obama's numbers and diminished Trump's.

PS- "conspiracy theorist" catchphrase died out a year ago. Try something new.

You’re lying. Remember the unemployment numbers weren’t real until trump was potus and the number went down suddenly it was real

The proof that what I said was true is right here in the threads. I posted the BEA GDP charts both before and after, showing completely different figures for the same quarters. Look them up, and then you can apologize.

Also note all their changes make Trump look worse, and Obama better . They weren't even trying to hide their manipulations. Guess they thought nobody was looking. They were wrong.

The GDP has been on a steady uninterrupted rise for 10 years with no end in sight. The Big difference between the Obama years and Trump years is that Goods were previously
Overpriced but at the same time undersold.
Now they are selling like hot cakes at a more competitive exchange. This is the difference
between buying a volkswsgon for $100,000
or three Colorado pick up trucks for the same money. There's no real comparison in
The value, functionality and value added between the two transactions except for the bare number amount which is really all the GDP actually is....it doesn't actually tell you that much without concurrent economic information.

Jo

 

[protectionist]

Slobbers a senile old coot.

Here are just a few of the Ukrainians who threatened to remove their president at tbd time unless he got rid of Shokin, because he was corrupt...

Elected on a promise to reform Ukraine and fight corruption, reformers now fear Poroshenko has gone off course. The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country’s corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokin—a request Poroshenko has ignored. ​

. Anybody can drum up a bunch of protestors about anything, anybody, anytime. You insult the intelligence of everyone on this board.

 

[protectionist]

The GDP has been on a steady uninterrupted rise for 10 years with no end in sight.

Jo

FALSE. In 2016, Obama's year of reckoning, GDP fell drastically. Trump rescued it. Lucky for us he won the election.

 

[protectionist]

The Trump minions will make an excuse for everything he does, no matter how much it is counter to the principles our country was built on. They are a cult, not a political party.
They will explain away Trump having his AG step in to reduce the sentencing of a friend of Trump's; Stopne. This is what dictatorships do, not a democratic Republic with separation of powers.

How funny to see this posted, after all the crazy fiascos launched by Democrats, and then defended by them, with a straight face.

 

[justoffal]

The GDP has been on a steady uninterrupted rise for 10 years with no end in sight.

Jo

FALSE. In 2016, Obama's year of reckoning, GDP fell drastically. Trump rescued it. Lucky for us he won the election.

Yes for a time but the line from 15 to 17 is up please read the whole post....it doesn't say what you think it does.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

The Trump minions will make an excuse for everything he does, no matter how much it is counter to the principles our country was built on. They are a cult, not a political party.
They will explain away Trump having his AG step in to reduce the sentencing of a friend of Trump's; Stopne. This is what dictatorships do, not a democratic Republic with separation of powers.

How funny to see this posted, after all the crazy fiascos launched by Democrats, and then defended by them, with a straight face.

Yeah no shit eh?

Jo

 

[hadit]

that would benefit his reelection

a big lie that will be put to bed TONIGHT in NH, when Low IQ Joe fails to finish in the top 3 yet again....

LOLOL

Actually, it shows Impeached Trump's scheme to eliminate his competition is working.

Acquitted Trump winning again.

 

[justoffal]

Want me to post their before and after graphs ?

Post whatever makes you feel better. Meanwhile, the rest of us will laugh at you for not being able to understand the BEA regularly adjusts figures as more data comes in.

That doesn't make the data wrong nor does it mean career civil servants of all political flavors are cooking any books. It means the data is more accurate.

And the best part is -- it doesn't matter how much butthurt you suffer for it.

That simply is not true.... If you really understood what the GDP was you would not make that statement. Accuracy is not its strong point dude...it is an overall highly unfocused summation of general trends.
It is good info as long as it is accompanied by a variety of other supporting economic details.

Jo

 

[Faun]

There's never been an impeachment trial before that didn't call witnesses. This was a first.

Sure, but had they followed Bubba's impeachment trial example and had closed door testimony and only presented excerpts as testimony, would you have been appeased and not carried on about "No witnesses, no witnesses!"? Not likely.

There was a fundamental difference between the two Impeachments. With Clinton, the investigation was done in private by an Independent Counsel for a year. All depositions and evidence gathering were done in secret before the Congress ever got involved. Whereas with Impeached Trump, that was done by the House inquiry where the right screeched how unfair it was and even stormed their hearing with proverbial torches and pitchforks.

Its just that we don't care. A political body that has lied to us for years and decades. Calls to impeach a man long before the election. Sounds more like a Communist ploy against an arch rival running against a corrupted and sour smelling system.

Grow a pair. The right was trying to disqualify Obama from before he was president, up until he left office.

There may have been people on the right that did not like Obama. But they were afraid. For obvious reasons. You saw the riots from the antifa communist groups and african americans as the whole system was corrupted with anarchists and pure progs put into top positions. No one tried to stop them. I told you before. You are the consolation prize. Death, destruction and carnage is a great vengeance and vendetta to people who ph uk with others. America had a good run. We are now on fumes with a tattered constitution. And the current president standing in the way of the route to total meltdown.

Oh, please.

Few people ever heard of Antifa in the U.S. before Impeached Trump. It was bigotry and racism that fueled the right to try and disqualify Obama as not being Constitutionally eligible to be president. Just look at this site. I myopic viewpoint where nearly all of the unabashed racists are on your side of the aisle.

 

[Faun]

Y’all love your corrupt prosecutors don’t ya.

"Corrupt", by investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma ?

As for Biden's corruption, it wouldn't matter who the prosecutor was. the mere fact that he demanded something from somebody under a threat is HIS corruption, which he publicized.

LOLOL

Gramps, the corrupt prosecutor he's talking about is Shokin.

 

[Faun]

Slobbers a senile old coot.

Here are just a few of the Ukrainians who threatened to remove their president at tbd time unless he got rid of Shokin, because he was corrupt...

Elected on a promise to reform Ukraine and fight corruption, reformers now fear Poroshenko has gone off course. The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country’s corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokin—a request Poroshenko has ignored. ​

. Anybody can drum up a bunch of protestors about anything, anybody, anytime. You insult the intelligence of everyone on this board.

LOLOL

Their protests show Shokin was corrupt. And it wasn't just them. The rada wanted Shokin out because he was corrupt. About 6 months later, with Poroshenko not getting rid of Shokin, Biden finished the job.