The birth of Zionist propaganda on film

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

I'm not sure that you would recognize the reality of a political condition even if you were sitting on it.

No Jew hatred at all, just facts. You are the one that uses lies and propaganda to stoke your slobbering hate for the native Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Other than the general statistical probability that some crime is associated with people in a given population density and happen to be christians, there is no conflict I am aware of...

The Christians are a different sub-group than Islamic Radicals. They are not generally associated with Jihadists. While I'm not sure whether whether, in the modern day context, if you could number Christians among the Fedayeen (the religious "willing to sacrifice themselves for God"). I think we go back to the probability ask yourself: how many insurgents, terrorist, suicide bombers, and asymmetric resistance fighters have you heard of in the Middle East that were Christian??? I'm pretty sure that over the last century, there must have been such an example. But I'm reasonably sure that the number is probabilistically insignificant.

I cannot imagine WHY you consistently refer to them. I'm not even sure that in the last year, anyone in the discussion group, besides yourself even mentions them, except in passing. I know of no significant deadly threat by Radical Christians in Israel or any of the immediate adjacent countries.

Even in the US Extremist Christians is fairly uncommon. It is there, but generally we pay it no mind. The last big terrorist attack (that I can think of just now) by extremist Christians ("willing to sacrifice themselves for God") might be the Wisconsin Sikh Temple Massacre in 2012. The we just Islamophobes.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians.​

Well they don't unless they are Palestinians. They are, for the most part, invisible. Israel just calls them Arabs. Israel treats Christians and Muslims equally because they are equally not Jews. Israel only mentions the Christians in Israel to brag about how they are better off in Israel than in some Muslim countries. However, Israel fails to mention that these Christians have been dispossessed from their land and live as second class (non Jewish) citizens.

About 35% of Palestinian Christians became refugees in 1948. Israel continues to dispossess Christians in the West Bank by steeling their land trashing their economic survival. You don't realize that the Christian population was centered around Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Many of the villages in that area are/were Christian. The mass Israeli colonization in that area meant that the Christians had to go.

Palestinian Christians dispossessed from their land in Israel.

Claims that you refuse to substantiate are just LIES, so why are you constantly LYING.

Under Israeli law Israeli Christian citizens have the self same rights as arab muslim Israeli citizens and Jewish Israeli citizens.

Your one example ends part way through the truth as the Christians were given back their homes and lands by the Israeli courts on production of valid land title dated before 1948

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

 

[Divine Wind]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

If they were illegal settlements, it was not their land.

Nice deflection though.

 

[rylah]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

8,600 Jews in 2005 withdrawal, and (I think) a bit bigger number after the Oslo agreements.

And no, Jews settling by their patriarchs graves and in Judea Samaria aren't in anyway illegal.

 

[Divine Wind]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

If they were illegal settlements, it was not their land.

Nice deflection though.

It was Israeli controlled. Nice dodge though.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

If they were illegal settlements, it was not their land.

Nice deflection though.

It was Israeli controlled. Nice dodge though.

Controlled not owned.

Good deflection.

 

[Divine Wind]

Controlled not owned.

Good deflection.

Seriously? You want to play antisemitic semantics? Did the Israelis remove those Jewish citizens or not?

What Muslims do you claim the Israelis removed, when and how many?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Controlled not owned.

Good deflection.

Seriously? You want to play antisemitic semantics? Did the Israelis remove those Jewish citizens or not?

What Muslims do you claim the Israelis removed, when and how many?

I was talking about Christians.

Please try to keep up.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I'm not sure that you would recognize the reality of a political condition even if you were sitting on it.

No Jew hatred at all, just facts. You are the one that uses lies and propaganda to stoke your slobbering hate for the native Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Other than the general statistical probability that some crime is associated with people in a given population density and happen to be christians, there is no conflict I am aware of...

The Christians are a different sub-group than Islamic Radicals. They are not generally associated with Jihadists. While I'm not sure whether whether, in the modern day context, if you could number Christians among the Fedayeen (the religious "willing to sacrifice themselves for God"). I think we go back to the probability ask yourself: how many insurgents, terrorist, suicide bombers, and asymmetric resistance fighters have you heard of in the Middle East that were Christian??? I'm pretty sure that over the last century, there must have been such an example. But I'm reasonably sure that the number is probabilistically insignificant.

I cannot imagine WHY you consistently refer to them. I'm not even sure that in the last year, anyone in the discussion group, besides yourself even mentions them, except in passing. I know of no significant deadly threat by Radical Christians in Israel or any of the immediate adjacent countries.

Even in the US Extremist Christians is fairly uncommon. It is there, but generally we pay it no mind. The last big terrorist attack (that I can think of just now) by extremist Christians ("willing to sacrifice themselves for God") might be the Wisconsin Sikh Temple Massacre in 2012. The we just Islamophobes.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians.​

Well they don't unless they are Palestinians. They are, for the most part, invisible. Israel just calls them Arabs. Israel treats Christians and Muslims equally because they are equally not Jews. Israel only mentions the Christians in Israel to brag about how they are better off in Israel than in some Muslim countries. However, Israel fails to mention that these Christians have been dispossessed from their land and live as second class (non Jewish) citizens.

About 35% of Palestinian Christians became refugees in 1948. Israel continues to dispossess Christians in the West Bank by steeling their land trashing their economic survival. You don't realize that the Christian population was centered around Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Many of the villages in that area are/were Christian. The mass Israeli colonization in that area meant that the Christians had to go.

Palestinian Christians dispossessed from their land in Israel.

Claims that you refuse to substantiate are just LIES, so why are you constantly LYING.

Under Israeli law Israeli Christian citizens have the self same rights as arab muslim Israeli citizens and Jewish Israeli citizens.

Your one example ends part way through the truth as the Christians were given back their homes and lands by the Israeli courts on production of valid land title dated before 1948

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Dont know, why dont you find out. But here is a starter for you

Israeli forces destroy illegal West Bank settlement houses

 

[Phoenall]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

If they were illegal settlements, it was not their land.

Nice deflection though.

Just as it was not arab muslim land either after the international law of 1923, and the illegal law of 1949

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

I'm not sure that you would recognize the reality of a political condition even if you were sitting on it.

No Jew hatred at all, just facts. You are the one that uses lies and propaganda to stoke your slobbering hate for the native Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Other than the general statistical probability that some crime is associated with people in a given population density and happen to be christians, there is no conflict I am aware of...

The Christians are a different sub-group than Islamic Radicals. They are not generally associated with Jihadists. While I'm not sure whether whether, in the modern day context, if you could number Christians among the Fedayeen (the religious "willing to sacrifice themselves for God"). I think we go back to the probability ask yourself: how many insurgents, terrorist, suicide bombers, and asymmetric resistance fighters have you heard of in the Middle East that were Christian??? I'm pretty sure that over the last century, there must have been such an example. But I'm reasonably sure that the number is probabilistically insignificant.

I cannot imagine WHY you consistently refer to them. I'm not even sure that in the last year, anyone in the discussion group, besides yourself even mentions them, except in passing. I know of no significant deadly threat by Radical Christians in Israel or any of the immediate adjacent countries.

Even in the US Extremist Christians is fairly uncommon. It is there, but generally we pay it no mind. The last big terrorist attack (that I can think of just now) by extremist Christians ("willing to sacrifice themselves for God") might be the Wisconsin Sikh Temple Massacre in 2012. The we just Islamophobes.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians.​

Well they don't unless they are Palestinians. They are, for the most part, invisible. Israel just calls them Arabs. Israel treats Christians and Muslims equally because they are equally not Jews. Israel only mentions the Christians in Israel to brag about how they are better off in Israel than in some Muslim countries. However, Israel fails to mention that these Christians have been dispossessed from their land and live as second class (non Jewish) citizens.

About 35% of Palestinian Christians became refugees in 1948. Israel continues to dispossess Christians in the West Bank by steeling their land trashing their economic survival. You don't realize that the Christian population was centered around Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Many of the villages in that area are/were Christian. The mass Israeli colonization in that area meant that the Christians had to go.

Palestinian Christians dispossessed from their land in Israel.

Claims that you refuse to substantiate are just LIES, so why are you constantly LYING.

Under Israeli law Israeli Christian citizens have the self same rights as arab muslim Israeli citizens and Jewish Israeli citizens.

Your one example ends part way through the truth as the Christians were given back their homes and lands by the Israeli courts on production of valid land title dated before 1948

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Dont know, why dont you find out. But here is a starter for you

Israeli forces destroy illegal West Bank settlement houses

Operative word - illegal.

 

[Phoenall]

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Those they removed from illegal settlements. I don't know the number, but I'm sure it was in the hundreds.

If they were illegal settlements, it was not their land.

Nice deflection though.

It was Israeli controlled. Nice dodge though.

Controlled not owned.

Good deflection.

Like your land is American controlled ? ? ? ? ?

 

[Phoenall]

Controlled not owned.

Good deflection.

Seriously? You want to play antisemitic semantics? Did the Israelis remove those Jewish citizens or not?

What Muslims do you claim the Israelis removed, when and how many?

I was talking about Christians.

Please try to keep up.

On illegal settlements. Two can play this game, and you always lose

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I'm not sure that you would recognize the reality of a political condition even if you were sitting on it.

(COMMENT)

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Other than the general statistical probability that some crime is associated with people in a given population density and happen to be christians, there is no conflict I am aware of...

The Christians are a different sub-group than Islamic Radicals. They are not generally associated with Jihadists. While I'm not sure whether whether, in the modern day context, if you could number Christians among the Fedayeen (the religious "willing to sacrifice themselves for God"). I think we go back to the probability ask yourself: how many insurgents, terrorist, suicide bombers, and asymmetric resistance fighters have you heard of in the Middle East that were Christian??? I'm pretty sure that over the last century, there must have been such an example. But I'm reasonably sure that the number is probabilistically insignificant.

I cannot imagine WHY you consistently refer to them. I'm not even sure that in the last year, anyone in the discussion group, besides yourself even mentions them, except in passing. I know of no significant deadly threat by Radical Christians in Israel or any of the immediate adjacent countries.

Even in the US Extremist Christians is fairly uncommon. It is there, but generally we pay it no mind. The last big terrorist attack (that I can think of just now) by extremist Christians ("willing to sacrifice themselves for God") might be the Wisconsin Sikh Temple Massacre in 2012. The we just Islamophobes.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't think anyone in Israel or the Western World has any problem with Christians.​

Well they don't unless they are Palestinians. They are, for the most part, invisible. Israel just calls them Arabs. Israel treats Christians and Muslims equally because they are equally not Jews. Israel only mentions the Christians in Israel to brag about how they are better off in Israel than in some Muslim countries. However, Israel fails to mention that these Christians have been dispossessed from their land and live as second class (non Jewish) citizens.

About 35% of Palestinian Christians became refugees in 1948. Israel continues to dispossess Christians in the West Bank by steeling their land trashing their economic survival. You don't realize that the Christian population was centered around Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Many of the villages in that area are/were Christian. The mass Israeli colonization in that area meant that the Christians had to go.

Palestinian Christians dispossessed from their land in Israel.

Claims that you refuse to substantiate are just LIES, so why are you constantly LYING.

Under Israeli law Israeli Christian citizens have the self same rights as arab muslim Israeli citizens and Jewish Israeli citizens.

Your one example ends part way through the truth as the Christians were given back their homes and lands by the Israeli courts on production of valid land title dated before 1948

How many Jews did Israel kick off their land?

Dont know, why dont you find out. But here is a starter for you

Israeli forces destroy illegal West Bank settlement houses

Operative word - illegal.

And you dont allow that to be used when it is illegal muslim and Christian settlements do you. DOUBLE STANDARDS OR WHAT ?

 

[Divine Wind]

I was talking about Christians.

Please try to keep up.

Sure. If you try to communicate effectively, I'll try to keep up.

Just so we're clear, do you support Israel's right to exist? Condemn Islamic attacks on Israel? Have no feelings about "Zionism"?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I was talking about Christians.

Please try to keep up.

Sure. If you try to communicate effectively, I'll try to keep up.

Just so we're clear, do you support Israel's right to exist? Condemn Islamic attacks on Israel? Have no feelings about "Zionism"?

Israel occupies Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial project.

 

[Divine Wind]

Israel occupies Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial project.

Translation: No, I don't support Israel's right to exist. I support Islamic terrorist attacks against Israel. Death to all Zionists!

Thanks, got it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel occupies Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial project.

Translation: No, I don't support Israel's right to exist. I support Islamic terrorist attacks against Israel. Death to all Zionists!

Thanks, got it.

You need to read the 1949 UN armistice agreements.

 

[Divine Wind]

Israel occupies Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial project.

Translation: No, I don't support Israel's right to exist. I support Islamic terrorist attacks against Israel. Death to all Zionists!

Thanks, got it.

You need to read the 1949 UN armistice agreements.

Read it. It's the one after the Arab nations executed an unprovoked attack on Israel and then got their ******* asses beat.

Your support for Islamic terrorists is noted. Do you support "Death to America" as fervently as you support "Death to Israel"? Have you given money to terrorist organizations?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel occupies Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial project.

Translation: No, I don't support Israel's right to exist. I support Islamic terrorist attacks against Israel. Death to all Zionists!

Thanks, got it.

You need to read the 1949 UN armistice agreements.

Read it. It's the one after the Arab nations executed an unprovoked attack on Israel and then got their ******* asses beat.

Your support for Islamic terrorists is noted. Do you support "Death to America" as fervently as you support "Death to Israel"? Have you given money to terrorist organizations?