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Your artificial timeline of 75 years is arbitrary and capricious. In part because the concerted search has not been ongoing for 75 years, and, I was not aware you were tasked with establishing a timeline.
The time has been more than Fermi's paradox and Drake equation. Why do you ignore science and probability when it doesn't fit your atheist religion and worldview? Toddsterpatriot doesn't seem to care anymore. The woman who was head of NASA who claimed discovering aliens on Mars by 2025 lost her job and was replaced by a man when Trump took over. Good thing; it would've been a waste of taxpayer money. Maybe the rich will try to go into space in order to avoid the coronavirus and become the first ones to get it in space. How ironic would that be?
You seem not to understand that it was only in 1960 when the first SETI experiment was performed.

You seem not to understand that the universe is, you know, kind’a big. Even nearest stars are hundreds of light years away. Subtract 1960 from 2020. How many years is that?

On the other hand, 2,000 years and no signs of your gods or anyone else’s gods. Why is that?

Lastly, remember that because the Bible suggests the earth is flat we can only send radio signals in a band of 180 degrees from the flat surface so we have, you know, a lot of space we can’t broadcast to.
 

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Tell us again about this “fine tuning” thing the gods managed to get so horribly wrong.


Let's use Toddsterpatriot as an example. He believes in lies. His faith in atheism and atheist science makes him reject the fine tuning facts and how rough solar wind conditions could be. Moreover, he cannot even tell us what the other theories are to reject aliens. Everything that I taught him has gone in one ear and out the other. Otherwise, he would've produced evidence of aliens years ago and this thread would be over. Yet, I believe it will grow to over 100 pages because the atheists just gotta have aliens even with no evidence. Next, we be hearing they were wiped out by coronavirus.

The assumption is that chart is that there is life elsewhere. We have no idea if life exist elsewhere because we only have one data point and that is earth. Until we get another data point on life charts like that are meaningless.

Until we can confirm that life exist elsewhere then the most logical reason for us not being contacted yet is because there is nobody to contact us.
The Prime Directive. Intelligent ETs are here studying us so they can't contact us without screwing up our development. Besides they are so advanced, we have nothing to offer them.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
 

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The Prime Directive. Intelligent ETs are here studying us so they can't contact us without screwing up our development. Besides they are so advanced, we have nothing to offer them.


That Tom Cruise movie War of the Worlds was good except now we're the bad guys. We got plenty to offer them.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.
 

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There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere. This is the type of behavior that shows things just go in one ear and out the other with you.

What you just said is a lie.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
Actually, we know with 100% certainty that abiogenesis occurred because biological life exists. While the prayer leader at your madrassah may use the term "life from nothing", that's the fundie talkin'.

Shirley, you can make a better case for "the gawds did it". Just make sure you make a convincing case for your particular, supernatural gawds then move on to a convincing case for supernatural creation 6,000 years ago.

Thanks.
 

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There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere. This is the type of behavior that shows things just go in one ear and out the other with you.

What you just said is a lie.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere.

So post it.
And post your solar wind theory. Come on, Lucy.
 

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There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere. This is the type of behavior that shows things just go in one ear and out the other with you.

What you just said is a lie.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere.

So post it.
And post your solar wind theory. Come on, Lucy.
I already did :laugh:.
 

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There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere. This is the type of behavior that shows things just go in one ear and out the other with you.

What you just said is a lie.
There is reason to think there are no aliens anywhere.

So post it.
And post your solar wind theory. Come on, Lucy.
I already did :laugh:.
Liar.
 

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The Prime Directive. Intelligent ETs are here studying us so they can't contact us without screwing up our development. Besides they are so advanced, we have nothing to offer them.


That Tom Cruise movie War of the Worlds was good except now we're the bad guys. We got plenty to offer them.
No, even my dog is immune to the virus, the ETs certainly have nothing to fear.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
Actually, we know with 100% certainty that abiogenesis occurred because biological life exists. While the prayer leader at your madrassah may use the term "life from nothing", that's the fundie talkin'.

Shirley, you can make a better case for "the gawds did it". Just make sure you make a convincing case for your particular, supernatural gawds then move on to a convincing case for supernatural creation 6,000 years ago.

Thanks.
Hollie said life exists, therefore, abiogenesis occurred . . . and then called me a fundie.

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Behold the mindless thought processes of the fundies of materialism/naturalism.
 
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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
Actually, we know with 100% certainty that abiogenesis occurred because biological life exists. While the prayer leader at your madrassah may use the term "life from nothing", that's the fundie talkin'.

Shirley, you can make a better case for "the gawds did it". Just make sure you make a convincing case for your particular, supernatural gawds then move on to a convincing case for supernatural creation 6,000 years ago.

Thanks.

Then you explain where life came from...and why it only occurred one time.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere.

There's no reason to think it doesn't.

Abiogenesis is nonsense, an impossibility.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
Actually, we know with 100% certainty that abiogenesis occurred because biological life exists. While the prayer leader at your madrassah may use the term "life from nothing", that's the fundie talkin'.

Shirley, you can make a better case for "the gawds did it". Just make sure you make a convincing case for your particular, supernatural gawds then move on to a convincing case for supernatural creation 6,000 years ago.

Thanks.
Hollie said life exists, therefore, abiogenesis occurred . . . and then called me a fundie.

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Behold the mindless thought processes of the fundies of materialism/naturalism.
That’s correct, angry, self-hating fundie. Life formed on the planet either through supernatural intervention via one or more gods, (nor necessarily your gods), or by entirely natural mechanisms.

The utter failure of the religious extremist argument for their particular gods is their need to create the argument from incredulity, thus creating their gods of the gaps. The gods were responsible for thunder and lightning until we determined natural, environmental causes. The gods were blamed for infectious diseases until science unlocked the biology of bacteria and viruses. Your gods are confined only to those parts of the universe we do not know about, and that keeps shrinking.

Actually, abiogenesis is the likely cause for life on the planet. Your gods are too incompetent to have performed much beyond floods.
 

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This, according to some estimate, give or take quite a few zeroes I'm sure. A deeper philosophical question which goes beyond theology, though it certainly entangles it.

So, this number again, 1000000000000000000000 planets! According to The Institute of Astronomy at University of Cambridge. How many solar systems are there? | Institute of Astronomy

Putting the exact estimation aside. We would have to take a massive leap of faith to think that not only is there NOT other life in the universe, but, also of such existences, that there aren't many far more advanced than us.

Imagine a planet the size of Jupiter, 100's of billions of citizens. Imagine them not having our reptilian instincts of rage and violence, or developing weapons of war to be used against each other. Consider if they had the average brain power 250x that of our smartest humans, and existed for much longer, maybe lived on average 10000 years.

What would be the end result? Is there any religion that makes any consideration for this possibility (outside, I think Scientology)? It really is a daunting concept. We could be the most advanced by far, we might be Gods great creation. It would hardly seem we could be alone though based on the odds and even plain randomness.

There's no reason to think that life exists elsewhere. Yours is the leap of faith that expects, presumably, abiogenesis is possible. Abiogenesis is a pipedream.
Actually, we know with 100% certainty that abiogenesis occurred because biological life exists. While the prayer leader at your madrassah may use the term "life from nothing", that's the fundie talkin'.

Shirley, you can make a better case for "the gawds did it". Just make sure you make a convincing case for your particular, supernatural gawds then move on to a convincing case for supernatural creation 6,000 years ago.

Thanks.

Then you explain where life came from...and why it only occurred one time.
Life most likely came from elements that are abundant in the universe. We have no evidence to confirm it occurred only once.

So, you explain supernaturalism and how the Hindu gods (as opposed to your gods), supernaturally created life.
 

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