The Bible, the only way to heaven

[Bass v 2.0]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

 

[Luissa]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

I have read the bible, went to youth group for years, and was a Job's Daughter for five years. I understand the bible completly. ANd if I don't want to buy into it that is my choice so don't assume everyone doesn't follow it has no understanding of it. Plus most people you don't believe in the bible do not believe in the heaven it speaks of so I don't think they are worried about not getting into it.

 

[Dis]

Why would anyone want eternal life?

 

[jillian]

those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

of course you are.

do you think your bible means you can be as much of a creep on earth as you want but if you embrace jesus you'll still go to heaven?

seems kind of counter to the program.

btw, the bible IS subject to change as is proven by the different sects of Christianity alone.. .and that's IF one considers the New Testament to be the bible.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

of course you are.

do you think your bible means you can be as much of a creep on earth as you want but if you embrace jesus you'll still go to heaven?

seems kind of counter to the program.

btw, the bible IS subject to change as is proven by the different sects of Christianity alone.. .and that's IF one considers the New Testament to be the bible.

God's Word never changes, so you are wrong in saying that the Bible is subject to change, the misuse of the Bible by various sects is not proof that the Bible is subject to change, it simply means man's interpretation and understanding of the Word is not fundamentally sound and grounded in the truth. Those of us whp preach the message of the Bible are not zealots and fundies, unless you believe God is a zealot and a fundies.

 

[jillian]

God's Word never changes, so you are wrong in saying that the Bible is subject to change, the misuse of the Bible by various sects is not proof that the Bible is subject to change, it simply means man's interpretation and understanding of the Word is not fundamentally sound and grounded in the truth. Those of us whp preach the message of the Bible are not zealots and fundies, unless you believe God is a zealot and a fundies.

My bible doesn't believe your book is the bible...

prove me wrong...

without using your bible.

 

[AllieBaba]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

I have read the bible, went to youth group for years, and was a Job's Daughter for five years. I understand the bible completly. ANd if I don't want to buy into it that is my choice so don't assume everyone doesn't follow it has no understanding of it. Plus most people you don't believe in the bible do not believe in the heaven it speaks of so I don't think they are worried about not getting into it.

Nobody understands the bible completely, and I've seen you make some pretty humongous blunders regarding pretty basic biblical concepts.

And Jillie, you just hate Christians.

 

[jillian]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

I have read the bible, went to youth group for years, and was a Job's Daughter for five years. I understand the bible completly. ANd if I don't want to buy into it that is my choice so don't assume everyone doesn't follow it has no understanding of it. Plus most people you don't believe in the bible do not believe in the heaven it speaks of so I don't think they are worried about not getting into it.

Nobody understands the bible completely, and I've seen you make some pretty humongous blunders regarding pretty basic biblical concepts.

And Jillie, you just hate Christians.

I konw you don't believe this, Allie Baby. I like people or dislike them individually based on the kind of person they are... not their religion or anything else.

I just don't want anyone trying to force me or anyone else to believe what THEY believe.

And you HATE anyone who won't let you impose your beliefs on others.

I feel sorry for you that you can't just live and let live. Must be sad.

 

[AllieBaba]

Typical of any of your anti-Christian rants.

I don't hate anybody.

But you can't hide your hatred of Christians. It's particularly obvious when you lie about them..as you are here.

 

[jillian]

dude, are you even reading?

i never once ranted...

I simply don't accept that the only way to heaven is through your book.

How is that a rant?

My book came thousands of years before yours. I don't see belief in one and not the other would exclude anyone from heaven.

You want to prove me wrong? Go ahead... without using your book, of course, because to me, my book trumps it.

Good luck with that.

 

[AllieBaba]

those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

of course you are.

Sounds like anti-Christian hatred to me...

 

[AllieBaba]

Jill if you're talking about Christians you're ranting.

 

[jillian]

those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

of course you are.

Sounds like anti-Christian hatred to me...

of course it does.

anyone who thinks their beliefs are the ONLY ones that get someone to heaven and feels the need to force those beliefs on others is a zealot.

And anyone who thinks the bible... or any other religious book is supposed to be literally construed is a fundamentalist, by definition.

Good try though. You might get something right one day. I'll root for you.

 

[jillian]

Jill if you're talking about Christians you're ranting.

only in your sad little mind.

again, i feel sorry for you. honestly...

oh...and I'm waiting, Allie baby... prove, without using your book, that it is any better than my book.

 

[xsited1]

of course you are.[/COLOR][/B]

Sounds like anti-Christian hatred to me...

of course it does.

anyone who thinks their beliefs are the ONLY ones that get someone to heaven and feels the need to force those beliefs on others is a zealot.

And anyone who thinks the bible... or any other religious book is supposed to be literally construed is a fundamentalist, by definition.

Good try though. You might get something right one day. I'll root for you.

Hey Jill. I know Jews don't believe in Hell, but do they believe in Heaven? Where might I find more information on this subject?

 

[AllieBaba]

Sure you do. Your empathy and compassion are always flooding the place.

 

[edthecynic]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life, why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

A Cynic would like a clarification. How does a temporary visit to heaven and hell equal eternal life?
You see, if you will spend an eternity in either place then you ALREADY have eternal life no matter what you do!!!

Now I was taught as a child that it was a TRICK OF THE DEVIL to offer you what you ALREADY had.

 

[jillian]

Why isn't it enough for you to just get whatever peace you derive from your beliefs?

Why do you feel the need to ram them down everyone else's throat?

Seems that you must be pretty insecure about your deity if you need to do that.

 

[Iriemon]

If everyone follows the guide lines and commandments that the Bible puts forth they will have eternal life,

Where does is that said?

why anyone would go against it and or put it down as a worthless religious book is beyond explanation. A lot of you people who are against the message of the Bible[you can be against Christianity all you like, thats man-made] most likely have not red the Bible in detail with the inspiration of the Spirit and with understanding so its only logical that you would lash out against that which you don't understand. The Bible is *NOT* subject to change its message based on what is acceptable by man because it is not man who will allow you into heaven or send you to hell it is God, so if homosexuality, pornography and glorification of fornication and sexual promiscuity is popular and or widely accepted by man the Bible is not wrong for its holy message against those types of things and conversely, those of us who preach these scared principles are not zealots and fundies.

The Bible is not subject to change, unless, of course, you compare, say, the NIV version of the Bible with the Catholic version of the Bible and then you'll see lots of changes.

And while it is unfortunately subject to change; it also sure is subject to interpretation.

 

[RodISHI]

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.


Romans 10:6-7 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)