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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt if the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.



1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33





2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline




5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.
 
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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"
 
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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt if the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.



1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33





2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline




5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.
So I see that the OP and her pious greed doesn't allow her govt. to share with the needy. Jesus will say he never knew you when you ask to get into paradise.
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"
Her religion prefers to see people dying in the streets from hunger and exposure..
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.
The Russian plant Polivinylchick enjoys herself greatly also..But God hates her using him as an example of her fifth column antics...
 

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“If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
 

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In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
 

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Amazing how people think that the US never imposed taxes until FDR.. Man were they wrong. Washington was the first to impose taxes and tariffs.
 
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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Nope that is for Morning Joe, it's a show you know?
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt is the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.

1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33



2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline



5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.

"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that. Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again. And I wasn't even referring to you being error free, just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way.
 
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"It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism."


says the fascist nazi authoritarian who daily urges her fellow conserva-nazis to "do something" about the "liberal problem"



Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that. Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again. And I wasn't even referring to you being error free, just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way.


1. "Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that..."
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Say 'quack.'

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


2. "Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again."
Is there a wager connected to that contention?

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


3. "....just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way."

Guilty as charged.

Know why?
...I'm never wrong.
 

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Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that. Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again. And I wasn't even referring to you being error free, just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way.


1. "Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that..."
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Say 'quack.'

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


2. "Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again."
Is there a wager connected to that contention?

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


3. "....just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way."

Guilty as charged.

Know why?
...I'm never wrong.
Which reminds me ducky dear how is the underground movement to destroy American values? You guys getting plenty of rest since you post your excrement seven days a week...
 

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Mud is practically my servant!!


Time and again this dunce serves up a softball for me to hit out of the park....and he does it again!


Seems he offer me the opportunity to prove my contention....


OKey doke....'


6. The huge tax burden necessary to provide the ‘rights’ and fund federal welfare programs can be laid at the feet of the New Deal. Before 1940, only 5% of Americans paid any income tax, and the maximum was 25%. By the end of WWII, 2/3 of American families paid income tax- and it started at 24%, with a $500 exemption.
    1. It went up to 94% over $200k. So, if one earned $300k, one kept only $6000 of the last $100k.
    2. Withholding was re-introduced so the government got the money immediately. (Had been repealed in 1916.)



7. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”

From a speech delivered on the Senate floor
May 14, 1943

Happy Chandler's dangerous statism - The Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions


For Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.....the main function of taxation is to buy votes.


There it goes.....over the right field wall!!!!!
The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that. Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again. And I wasn't even referring to you being error free, just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way.


1. "Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that..."
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Say 'quack.'

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


2. "Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again."
Is there a wager connected to that contention?

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


3. "....just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way."

Guilty as charged.

Know why?
...I'm never wrong.
Sure thing, Anna Anderson.
 
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The New Deal has been over for eighty years try something else to pick on..
I think it is funny in a weird kind of way how she continually congratulates herself over her own comments or perceived comebacks. WTH, makes for a good laugh when I'm bored.


Well....to give credit where it is due...you and all the Liberal dolts can never find a single error in any of my posts.....so how could I not believe in my superiority and invincibility?????



This....for you:


Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that. Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again. And I wasn't even referring to you being error free, just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way.


1. "Well, I'm not a liberal, so you are wrong about that..."
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Say 'quack.'

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


2. "Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again."
Is there a wager connected to that contention?

Oh....and I'm never wrong.


3. "....just that you like to self congratulate yourself. Humorous in a bizarre kind of way."

Guilty as charged.

Know why?
...I'm never wrong.
Sure thing, Anna Anderson.



2. "Also, Jesus is not in the Constitution of the US. Wrong again."
Is there a wager connected to that contention?

Oh....and I'm never wrong.

I notice you didn't offer any wager.....


And I know why: you know that I'm never wrong.
 

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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt if the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.



1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33





2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline




5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.


Bad comparison. If one is a Christian they know that one, they choose to be a Christian, they became a member of a church, and they know that a thithe isn't mandatory, it's given with glee.


"The Rich and the Kingdom of God
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[b] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God"


That's different then a tithe . A tithe is more of a statement to God. As a matter of fact, tithing is the one thing God tells his peeps to test him on. The government does no such thing. Sure, they supposedly fix roads and keep shit running, so yeah that's why we render unto Cesar what's his. Even the great Saul followed the laws of Rome and went willingly to his execution.
 
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I'd say that we wouldn't have $trillions in national debt if the Bible was still the best guide for the economy.



1. Who is to decide what is fair, and what is too much? Some religions suggest tithing, and government demands taxes.

Joseph gathered very much grain
: It seems it was customary for Pharaoh to take 10% of the grain in Egypt as a tax. Essentially, Joseph doubled the taxes over the next seven years (Genesis 41:34 mentions one-fifth, that is, 20%).

That 20% figure appears again in the relationship of colonists to North America, and the English crown "....colonists were free to retain all the profits and fruits of their labor save for the crown's 20 percent share of any gold and silver discovered." "Freedom Just Around the Corner: A New American History: 1585-1828," by Walter A. McDougall, p.33





2. "Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another? And, if that person does not peaceably submit to such use, do you believe that there should be the initiation of force against him? Neither question is complex and can be answered by either a yes or no. For me the answer is no to both questions. I bet that nearly every college professor, politician or even minister could not give a simple yes or no response.

3. A no answer, translated to public policy, would slash the federal budget by no less than two-thirds to three-quarters. After all most federal spending consists of taking the earnings of one American to give to another American in the form of farm subsidies, business bailouts, aid to higher education, welfare and food stamps. Keep in mind that Congress has no resources of its own. Plus there's no Santa Claus or tooth fairy that gives Congress resources. Thus, the only way that Congress can give one American a dollar is to first, through intimidation and coercion, confiscate that dollar from some other American.

4. Such actions by the U.S. Congress should offend any sense of moral decency. If you're a Christian or a Jew, you should be against the notion of one American living at the expense of some other American. When God gave Moses the Eighth Commandment -- "Thou shalt not steal" -- I am sure that He did not mean thou shalt not steal unless there is a majority vote in the U.S. Congress."
US in Moral Decline




5.There is no requirement of forced 'charity' in the Bible. .... under biblical direction...it is up to the giver to decide to give and how much he or she can afford to give, and, in many cases, whether he or she will give at all!

That's correct.....there is no demand to underwrite the undeserving.

God allows free choice. In fact, free will is essential to true Judeo-Christianity.

It is only under the atheistic doctrines communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism, that the fruits of one's labor is confiscated, and used by these various totalitarian forms to advance despotism.


Bad comparison. If one is a Christian they know that one, they choose to be a Christian, they became a member of a church, and they know that a thithe isn't mandatory, it's given with glee.


"The Rich and the Kingdom of God
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[b] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God"


That's different then a tithe . A tithe is more of a statement to God. As a matter of fact, tithing is the one thing God tells his peeps to test him on. The government does no such thing. Sure, they supposedly fix roads and keep shit running, so yeah that's why we render unto Cesar what's his. Even the great Saul followed the laws of Rome and went willingly to his execution.


Please specify exactly what 'comparison is bad...'



And...please....no barnyard vulgarity.
 

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