The Basic Case Against Judge Sullivan in Flynn case

[PoliticalChic]

Yup...right from the Trump playbook.

Thou shalt not in any way shape or form abridge Trump's almightiness - the means don't diss him or his friends, and corruption isn't corruption when applied to the Mighty T & Co.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

Easy. By sticking to facts.

1. He was given the opportunity to have a lawyer. One lie down.

2. What “right” is this? Can’t find it.

3. How did the draft 302 clear him of anything? It is a standard interview document, done by field agents, which is then analyzed and compared to other statements and interviews. In it, the only thing you latch onto is “he wasn’t lying”. You ignore the rest of the information which is that this statement was made in the context of analyzing his body language ONLY.

4. Flynn’s son was actively involved in Flynn’s business, thus could be culpable. This tactic is used often, particularly in white collar crimes, for example Enron. Why were you never outraged before about it?

5. Fair enough, but the judge apologized, does any of that change the fact that Flynn lied? Did his defense request a new judge?

The only fascists are those supporting a corrupt attorney general attempting to subvert the justice system in support of his boss’ political cronies.

The 302 was forged by the rogue Deep State FBI agents- you know.....your side.

FD-302 form, the official document used to record what happens in FBI interviews.

The FBI altered the document.

“The new irregularities concern what happened after Flynn was interviewed by FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka on January 24, 2017 – the interview in which Flynn was alleged to have lied about a December phone call with the Russian ambassador. FBI procedure is that one agent asks questions while another takes notes. Here, lead agent Strzok was the questioner and Pientka was responsible for memorializing the interview. After completing an interview, those notes are required to be organized and written up on an FD-302 form, which then becomes an official document used as evidence in an investigation.

FBI policy requires 302 forms to be submitted within five working days of an interview. The FBI took three weeks to deliberate on and compose Flynn’s 302 form, and it was mislabeled a “DRAFT DOCUMENT,” requiring a resubmission of the form three months later. A prosecutor working in the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which eventually charged Flynn, was required to submit a separate document to a federal judge to explain that irregularity.

The new Flynn documents shed light on what happened during the unusual three weeks composing the 302. They include texts between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were communicating extensively during an extramarital affair in interchanges revealing anti-Trump bias and resulting in their later dismissal from Mueller’s investigation.

In one text, dated February 10, Strzok tells Page he is heavily editing Pientka’s 302 form to the point he’s “trying not to completely re-write” it. Other messages reveal that Page, who did not attend the interview, reviewed the 302 form and made editing suggestions. On February 14, Page texts Strzok, "Is Andy good with the 302?" – presumably referring to FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. The next day, February 15, the Flynn 302 was officially submitted and filed with the FBI.

FBI supervisors like Strzok, however, are not supposed to rewrite other agents’ 302 forms. Nor are 302 forms supposed to be edited by FBI personnel who were not present at the interview, and both of these things happened in the Flynn case. New Red Flags Emerging From FBI's Handling of Michael Flynn's Case | RealClearInvestigations



But, heck.....you don't mind that, do you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I just proved that Sullivan issued a new charge, and you agreed it was not his prerogative.
Why are you back?

Because he is a deranged leftwing ideologue that cannot understand anything outside his own narrow ideological perspective.

Seems to be more of that going around, than the Chinese virus.


Think they'll be able cure either one?

 

[Coyote]

Hussein did it for eight years......

Emmett Sullivan was a MAJOR supporter of Barack Obama. Sullivan, a Bill Clinton appointee was extremely involved with the Obama campaign in both '08 and '12.

Link?

So in a sense, the obstruction of justice that Sullivan is involved in now is for the benefit of his hero.

All roads in this massive corruption lead one place.

Sullivan was also appointed by Reagan and Bush, indicating broad bipartisan support.

His record is good, no scandals or controversy. He has ruled on two cases involving Trump in some way and ruled bothY

Sooooo.......he has, since, lost his mind.

You, of all people, should be sympathetic to that sort of thing.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

What a pile of hysterical horse manure. Flynn was never denied counsel. He was interviewed pursuant a counter-intelligence probe. The 302 was available to Powell - her lying about it notwithstanding. Flynn's son worked on behalf of a foreign power and was involved with his criminal dad's negotiations as to the kidnapping and exfiltration of a U.S. resident. Flynn got lucky that investigation into his son's part of that pervasive criminality, well deserved as it was, was dropped due to the plea deal. Remember, if you involve your kids in your criminality, you don't get to whine about their being in legal jeopardy. The rest of that garbage right out of Absurdistan isn't even worth addressing.

Usually there was some fun watching you guys struggle with the internal contradictions of your alternate reality. Now you are just re-bleating whatever garbage is fed to you, and it's just saddening, since, amid a frenzy of feces-flinging and hyperventilation, you no longer realize you can't find a way out of the thicket.

I didn’t realize that was why it was dropped. IMO that is a pretty damn serious thing and shows what scum Flynn really is, both of them.

 

[Coyote]

Yup...right from the Trump playbook.

Thou shalt not in any way shape or form abridge Trump's almightiness - the means don't diss him or his friends, and corruption isn't corruption when applied to the Mighty T & Co.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

Easy. By sticking to facts.

1. He was given the opportunity to have a lawyer. One lie down.

2. What “right” is this? Can’t find it.

3. How did the draft 302 clear him of anything? It is a standard interview document, done by field agents, which is then analyzed and compared to other statements and interviews. In it, the only thing you latch onto is “he wasn’t lying”. You ignore the rest of the information which is that this statement was made in the context of analyzing his body language ONLY.

4. Flynn’s son was actively involved in Flynn’s business, thus could be culpable. This tactic is used often, particularly in white collar crimes, for example Enron. Why were you never outraged before about it?

5. Fair enough, but the judge apologized, does any of that change the fact that Flynn lied? Did his defense request a new judge?

The only fascists are those supporting a corrupt attorney general attempting to subvert the justice system in support of his boss’ political cronies.

The 302 was forged by the rogue Deep State FBI agents- you know.....your side.

FD-302 form, the official document used to record what happens in FBI interviews.

The FBI altered the document.

“The new irregularities concern what happened after Flynn was interviewed by FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka on January 24, 2017 – the interview in which Flynn was alleged to have lied about a December phone call with the Russian ambassador. FBI procedure is that one agent asks questions while another takes notes. Here, lead agent Strzok was the questioner and Pientka was responsible for memorializing the interview. After completing an interview, those notes are required to be organized and written up on an FD-302 form, which then becomes an official document used as evidence in an investigation.

FBI policy requires 302 forms to be submitted within five working days of an interview. The FBI took three weeks to deliberate on and compose Flynn’s 302 form, and it was mislabeled a “DRAFT DOCUMENT,” requiring a resubmission of the form three months later. A prosecutor working in the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which eventually charged Flynn, was required to submit a separate document to a federal judge to explain that irregularity.

The new Flynn documents shed light on what happened during the unusual three weeks composing the 302. They include texts between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were communicating extensively during an extramarital affair in interchanges revealing anti-Trump bias and resulting in their later dismissal from Mueller’s investigation.

In one text, dated February 10, Strzok tells Page he is heavily editing Pientka’s 302 form to the point he’s “trying not to completely re-write” it. Other messages reveal that Page, who did not attend the interview, reviewed the 302 form and made editing suggestions. On February 14, Page texts Strzok, "Is Andy good with the 302?" – presumably referring to FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. The next day, February 15, the Flynn 302 was officially submitted and filed with the FBI.

FBI supervisors like Strzok, however, are not supposed to rewrite other agents’ 302 forms. Nor are 302 forms supposed to be edited by FBI personnel who were not present at the interview, and both of these things happened in the Flynn case. New Red Flags Emerging From FBI's Handling of Michael Flynn's Case | RealClearInvestigations



But, heck.....you don't mind that, do you.

Idiot. Did you drop a custard pie on your head or something?

Strzok WAS one of the two agents conducting the interview! It was HIS report!

 

[JimBowie1958]

JimBowie said:
My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

Easy. By sticking to facts.

roflmao, but why dont you then? Here are the unFacts you just tossed out like a spitball.

JimBowie said:
But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.

1. He was given the opportunity to have a lawyer. One lie down.

No, he was not. The FBI agents told him it was just a friendly interview about how the new administration was settling and and to compare notes. Flynn assked about a lawyer and he was told he did notneed one as it was not a criminal investigation interview. And like so many others, Flynn made the mistake of trusting the FBI.

2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.

2. What “right” is this? Can’t find it.

That is what makes it illegal to lie to FBI agents, after they tell you your responses are part of an investigation. Otherwise you are not considered to be under oath and lying to them is not perjury.

3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?

3. How did the draft 302 clear him of anything? It is a standard interview document, done by field agents, which is then analyzed and compared to other statements and interviews. In it, the only thing you latch onto is “he wasn’t lying”. You ignore the rest of the information which is that this statement was made in the context of analyzing his body language ONLY.

Lol, in a perjury trap you need two docs; 1) the original transcript of what the target said that was indicating he was doing something fishy, and 2) the transcript of the interview where the target lied to the FBI about the previous event in item 1. Without the original 302, there ios no reliable proof Flynn lied about his previous statements with the Russian ambassador.

The government needs to present the original 302, not edited versions from later. This is also Brady evidence as the original people who conducted the interview stated in the 302 ssummary section that they did not think that Flynn lied in the interview.

The absence of this Brady material is criminal, and without the original interview the FBI and DOJ never had a case.

4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?

4. Flynn’s son was actively involved in Flynn’s business, thus could be culpable. This tactic is used often, particularly in white collar crimes, for example Enron. Why were you never outraged before about it?

Culpable of what crime? Flynn Dad was busted for perjury in a perjury trap. Unless there is evidence to investigate Flynn Son, you are saying that investigative fishing expeditions are standard procedure in DA's office across the country. Do you really trhink they do that? I highly doubt it, outside of Tammany Hall Dimocrat political machines.

5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.

5. Fair enough, but the judge apologized, does any of that change the fact that Flynn lied? Did his defense request a new judge?

Are you serious? The judges never repeated apology magically restores Flynn his reputation, l;ost finances and emotional stress from a completely unwarranted criminal investigation to make him flip on the POTUS?

roflmao, you are delusional.

6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

The only fascists are those supporting a corrupt attorney general attempting to subvert the justice system in support of his boss’ political cronies.

Yeah because it is fascist to insist on a fair objective trial since NEVER EVER, you liberal sissy girl.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Seems to be more of that going around, than the Chinese virus.
Think they'll be able cure either one?

Yerp, it is called a 'general election'.

Thanks for that softball.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I didn’t realize that was why it was dropped. IMO that is a pretty damn serious thing and shows what scum Flynn really is, both of them.

Yeah, only scumbags fall on their swords to protect their children.

Again, you are delusional.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hussein did it for eight years......

Emmett Sullivan was a MAJOR supporter of Barack Obama. Sullivan, a Bill Clinton appointee was extremely involved with the Obama campaign in both '08 and '12.

Link?

So in a sense, the obstruction of justice that Sullivan is involved in now is for the benefit of his hero.

All roads in this massive corruption lead one place.

Sullivan was also appointed by Reagan and Bush, indicating broad bipartisan support.

His record is good, no scandals or controversy. He has ruled on two cases involving Trump in some way and ruled bothY

Sooooo.......he has, since, lost his mind.

You, of all people, should be sympathetic to that sort of thing.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

What a pile of hysterical horse manure. Flynn was never denied counsel. He was interviewed pursuant a counter-intelligence probe. The 302 was available to Powell - her lying about it notwithstanding. Flynn's son worked on behalf of a foreign power and was involved with his criminal dad's negotiations as to the kidnapping and exfiltration of a U.S. resident. Flynn got lucky that investigation into his son's part of that pervasive criminality, well deserved as it was, was dropped due to the plea deal. Remember, if you involve your kids in your criminality, you don't get to whine about their being in legal jeopardy. The rest of that garbage right out of Absurdistan isn't even worth addressing.

Usually there was some fun watching you guys struggle with the internal contradictions of your alternate reality. Now you are just re-bleating whatever garbage is fed to you, and it's just saddening, since, amid a frenzy of feces-flinging and hyperventilation, you no longer realize you can't find a way out of the thicket.

I didn’t realize that was why it was dropped. IMO that is a pretty damn serious thing and shows what scum Flynn really is, both of them.

I provided proof of the Deep State forging the FBI302s.....so some moron concludes: "shows what scum Flynn really is"


Oh.....wait.....that moron was you!

 

[JimBowie1958]

I provided proof of the Deep State forging the FBI302s.....so some moron concludes: "shows what scum Flynn really is"
Oh.....wait.....that moron was you!

Thinking liberals today are as rare as Dimocrats taking responsibility for their actions.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup...right from the Trump playbook.

Thou shalt not in any way shape or form abridge Trump's almightiness - the means don't diss him or his friends, and corruption isn't corruption when applied to the Mighty T & Co.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

Easy. By sticking to facts.

1. He was given the opportunity to have a lawyer. One lie down.

2. What “right” is this? Can’t find it.

3. How did the draft 302 clear him of anything? It is a standard interview document, done by field agents, which is then analyzed and compared to other statements and interviews. In it, the only thing you latch onto is “he wasn’t lying”. You ignore the rest of the information which is that this statement was made in the context of analyzing his body language ONLY.

4. Flynn’s son was actively involved in Flynn’s business, thus could be culpable. This tactic is used often, particularly in white collar crimes, for example Enron. Why were you never outraged before about it?

5. Fair enough, but the judge apologized, does any of that change the fact that Flynn lied? Did his defense request a new judge?

The only fascists are those supporting a corrupt attorney general attempting to subvert the justice system in support of his boss’ political cronies.

The 302 was forged by the rogue Deep State FBI agents- you know.....your side.

FD-302 form, the official document used to record what happens in FBI interviews.

The FBI altered the document.

“The new irregularities concern what happened after Flynn was interviewed by FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka on January 24, 2017 – the interview in which Flynn was alleged to have lied about a December phone call with the Russian ambassador. FBI procedure is that one agent asks questions while another takes notes. Here, lead agent Strzok was the questioner and Pientka was responsible for memorializing the interview. After completing an interview, those notes are required to be organized and written up on an FD-302 form, which then becomes an official document used as evidence in an investigation.

FBI policy requires 302 forms to be submitted within five working days of an interview. The FBI took three weeks to deliberate on and compose Flynn’s 302 form, and it was mislabeled a “DRAFT DOCUMENT,” requiring a resubmission of the form three months later. A prosecutor working in the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which eventually charged Flynn, was required to submit a separate document to a federal judge to explain that irregularity.

The new Flynn documents shed light on what happened during the unusual three weeks composing the 302. They include texts between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were communicating extensively during an extramarital affair in interchanges revealing anti-Trump bias and resulting in their later dismissal from Mueller’s investigation.

In one text, dated February 10, Strzok tells Page he is heavily editing Pientka’s 302 form to the point he’s “trying not to completely re-write” it. Other messages reveal that Page, who did not attend the interview, reviewed the 302 form and made editing suggestions. On February 14, Page texts Strzok, "Is Andy good with the 302?" – presumably referring to FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. The next day, February 15, the Flynn 302 was officially submitted and filed with the FBI.

FBI supervisors like Strzok, however, are not supposed to rewrite other agents’ 302 forms. Nor are 302 forms supposed to be edited by FBI personnel who were not present at the interview, and both of these things happened in the Flynn case. New Red Flags Emerging From FBI's Handling of Michael Flynn's Case | RealClearInvestigations



But, heck.....you don't mind that, do you.

Idiot. Did you drop a custard pie on your head or something?

Strzok WAS one of the two agents conducting the interview! It was HIS report!

Sooo.....the ol' eyesight is gone at your age?


I can help.



The 302 was forged by the rogue Deep State FBI agents- you know.....your side.

FD-302 form, the official document used to record what happens in FBI interviews.

The FBI altered the document.

“The new irregularities concern what happened after Flynn was interviewed by FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka on January 24, 2017 – the interview in which Flynn was alleged to have lied about a December phone call with the Russian ambassador. FBI procedure is that one agent asks questions while another takes notes. Here, lead agent Strzok was the questioner and Pientka was responsible for memorializing the interview. After completing an interview, those notes are required to be organized and written up on an FD-302 form, which then becomes an official document used as evidence in an investigation.

FBI policy requires 302 forms to be submitted within five working days of an interview. The FBI took three weeks to deliberate on and compose Flynn’s 302 form, and it was mislabeled a “DRAFT DOCUMENT,” requiring a resubmission of the form three months later. A prosecutor working in the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which eventually charged Flynn, was required to submit a separate document to a federal judge to explain that irregularity.

The new Flynn documents shed light on what happened during the unusual three weeks composing the 302. They include texts between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were communicating extensively during an extramarital affair in interchanges revealing anti-Trump bias and resulting in their later dismissal from Mueller’s investigation.

In one text, dated February 10, Strzok tells Page he is heavily editing Pientka’s 302 form to the point he’s “trying not to completely re-write” it. Other messages reveal that Page, who did not attend the interview, reviewed the 302 form and made editing suggestions. On February 14, Page texts Strzok, "Is Andy good with the 302?" – presumably referring to FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. The next day, February 15, the Flynn 302 was officially submitted and filed with the FBI.



FBI supervisors like Strzok, however, are not supposed to rewrite other agents’ 302 forms. Nor are 302 forms supposed to be edited by FBI personnel who were not present at the interview, and both of these things happened in the Flynn case. New Red Flags Emerging From FBI's Handling of Michael Flynn's Case | RealClearInvestigations



But, heck.....you don't mind that, do you.




So, in your estimation, integrity is way overrated?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I provided proof of the Deep State forging the FBI302s.....so some moron concludes: "shows what scum Flynn really is"
Oh.....wait.....that moron was you!

Thinking liberals today are as rare as Dimocrats taking responsibility for their actions.

.....and hens teeth or references to cats in the Bible!

 

[LoneLaugher]

The government did prosecute. Sentencing is up to the judge. Now the DOJ wants a backsy. The judicial has to rule if they'll allow it. As to what law Flynn broke. False Statements in Violation of Title 18 U.S.C. Section 1001

And again making statements like "bogus" guilty plea without being able to back it up doesn't give you credibility.

The case is withdrawn, The DOJ has acknowledged prosecutorial misconduct.

Sullivan is obstructing justice.

A judge is allowed to rule on any motion set before him right? Or do you understand the job of judges differently than I do? This acknowledgment was again NOT endorsed by ANY prosecutor who wasn't a political appointee. This included the actual prosecutors.

Find me one precedent for this, just one?

The dishonorable Sullivan is obstructing justice. I urge AG Barr to have Sullivan arrested.

Yes, I understand judges differently than you do. Where you see a dictator in a robe who is god, I see the actual job of a judge. A judge is required to uphold the law.

American Jurisprudence was designed around an adversarial where prosecution and defense present a case. The job of the judge is to decide points of LAW presented by the two sides and arbitrate disputes based on law.

The judge is not the law, but the referee. This dishonorable lout Sullivan is obstructing justice and should be arrested and prosecuted just like Roger Stone - with a predawn raid on his home by paramilitary goons.

What happens when the prosecution is corrupted?

That's why there are appeals courts at several levels....and if per chance the corruption goes all the way up...well then we are simply fucked.

JO

Is Trump at all corrupt, in your opinion?

 

[Olde Europe]

I didn’t realize that was why it was dropped. IMO that is a pretty damn serious thing and shows what scum Flynn really is, both of them.

One would think so, no?

One would also think, had AG Holder intervened in a trial of a President Obama crony, after conviction, dropping the charges and insisting the trial be dismissed, to the effect that no career prosecutor would sign the court filing, our righty friends wouldn't be done screeching about it on this very day. They'd immediately know that's a no-go, which is why it never happened before. They'd also know that firing Inspector Generals without cause would be a no-go. But that's just an aside...

Heck, had President Obama uttered anything like the below about any career prosecutors, our righty frieds would still be yelling their heads off:

“I hope a lot of people are going to pay a big price because they’re dishonest, crooked people,” Mr. Trump said. “They’re scum — and I say it a lot, they’re scum, they’re human scum. This should never have happened in this country.”​

All that said, how is it even possible for someone nominated to become National Security Advisor not to be fully aware that high-ranking Russian state personnel in the U.S. are under routine surveillance? Spilling the beans over open lines? You bet, Kislyak knew, and you bet he is still chuckling about that dunce bringing about his own downfall before he found all the light switches in his office.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hussein did it for eight years......

Emmett Sullivan was a MAJOR supporter of Barack Obama. Sullivan, a Bill Clinton appointee was extremely involved with the Obama campaign in both '08 and '12.

Link?

So in a sense, the obstruction of justice that Sullivan is involved in now is for the benefit of his hero.

All roads in this massive corruption lead one place.

Sullivan was also appointed by Reagan and Bush, indicating broad bipartisan support.

His record is good, no scandals or controversy. He has ruled on two cases involving Trump in some way and ruled bothY

Sooooo.......he has, since, lost his mind.

You, of all people, should be sympathetic to that sort of thing.

And that is right out of the Ayles handbook; ignore the facts and resort to personalities.

IT is amazing that you libs have abandoned civil rights across the board, your main calling card in most people's minds.

But here you have abandoned:
1) The right of the accused to a lawyer.
2) The right of the accused to know that they are being interviewed in a criminal investigation, instead of just a 'friendly conversation'.
3) The right to relvant Brady material, like the ORIGINAL 302 that stated what Flynn said and the authors of which cleared Flynn of any wrong doing. Where is it?
4) The rejection of coerced pleas. For Christ's Sake, Coyote, these fascist thugs THREATENED TO INVESTIGATE FLYNNS CHILDREN! But thats all OK in love and war, huh? No due process rights for Republicans or is it only Trump supporters?
5) The entire prosecution was merely a device to get Flynn to flip and make up shit on Trump. Flynn was not dishonest enough to allow his conscience to go along, so the jack boot Andrew Weisman destroyed Flynn personally, financially and his reputation nuked.
6) The right to a fair judge who has not already condemned the accused to being a traitor in public statements.

My Gawd, how do you liberals live with yourselves any more?

What a pile of hysterical horse manure. Flynn was never denied counsel. He was interviewed pursuant a counter-intelligence probe. The 302 was available to Powell - her lying about it notwithstanding. Flynn's son worked on behalf of a foreign power and was involved with his criminal dad's negotiations as to the kidnapping and exfiltration of a U.S. resident. Flynn got lucky that investigation into his son's part of that pervasive criminality, well deserved as it was, was dropped due to the plea deal. Remember, if you involve your kids in your criminality, you don't get to whine about their being in legal jeopardy. The rest of that garbage right out of Absurdistan isn't even worth addressing.

Usually there was some fun watching you guys struggle with the internal contradictions of your alternate reality. Now you are just re-bleating whatever garbage is fed to you, and it's just saddening, since, amid a frenzy of feces-flinging and hyperventilation, you no longer realize you can't find a way out of the thicket.

I didn’t realize that was why it was dropped. IMO that is a pretty damn serious thing and shows what scum Flynn really is, both of them.

Logan act bs............LOL

How many have been convicted of it..................Dirty cops and dirty party abusing the offices of this country................The FBI, NSA, DOJ will have to give blow jobs to the whole population to get people trusting them again.

 

[eagle1462010]

Did Biden know that it was Flynn who was talking to Kisliak when he requested that unmasking?

LOL...............you will try to sell that he didn't....

Please explain his need to know in a counter intel op right before leaving office........and tell me how he didn't know this was from the incoming admin..........

You know the answer...........as you ignore the years of Abuse by the Obama Administration which is WELL DOCUMENTED.

Why would Biden go through the process of making an official unmasking request if he knew the name of the person who was communicating with Kisliak?

To what end?

You’re talking to a brick wall. They are clueless about any of this. They hear “unmasking” and they think about Harry Osborn pulling off Spider-Man’s mask in that movie they saw. They don’t know what it’s purpose is, they don’t know who is authorized to do this - for any reason - and they don’t know . . . well, anything.

Prove it..........I provided documents that show FISA court records........how about you.

Not so much............You know damned well what your lying ass party did here.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The government did prosecute. Sentencing is up to the judge. Now the DOJ wants a backsy. The judicial has to rule if they'll allow it. As to what law Flynn broke. False Statements in Violation of Title 18 U.S.C. Section 1001

And again making statements like "bogus" guilty plea without being able to back it up doesn't give you credibility.

The case is withdrawn, The DOJ has acknowledged prosecutorial misconduct.

Sullivan is obstructing justice.

A judge is allowed to rule on any motion set before him right? Or do you understand the job of judges differently than I do? This acknowledgment was again NOT endorsed by ANY prosecutor who wasn't a political appointee. This included the actual prosecutors.

Find me one precedent for this, just one?

The dishonorable Sullivan is obstructing justice. I urge AG Barr to have Sullivan arrested.

Yes, I understand judges differently than you do. Where you see a dictator in a robe who is god, I see the actual job of a judge. A judge is required to uphold the law.

American Jurisprudence was designed around an adversarial where prosecution and defense present a case. The job of the judge is to decide points of LAW presented by the two sides and arbitrate disputes based on law.

The judge is not the law, but the referee. This dishonorable lout Sullivan is obstructing justice and should be arrested and prosecuted just like Roger Stone - with a predawn raid on his home by paramilitary goons.

What happens when the prosecution is corrupted?

The case is dismissed, as former judge Gleeson noted.

So why is this Clintonista clown obstructing justice?

Why should he not got prison the way Roger Stone did? Why do we have different standards of law based on political agenda?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hussein did it for eight years......

Emmett Sullivan was a MAJOR supporter of Barack Obama. Sullivan, a Bill Clinton appointee was extremely involved with the Obama campaign in both '08 and '12.

Link?

So in a sense, the obstruction of justice that Sullivan is involved in now is for the benefit of his hero.

All roads in this massive corruption lead one place.

Sullivan was also appointed by Reagan and Bush, indicating broad bipartisan support.

His record is good, no scandals or controversy. He has ruled on two cases involving Trump in some way and ruled both in favor and against, depending on the law.

The only massive corruption I am seeing here is coming from this administration through it’s corrupt AG, and this judge, like so many other figures, has earned the wrath of MAGA, and will now be smeared, trashed and tossed into the Deep-State conspiracy theory.

The dishonorable Sullivan was appointed to the federal court of appeals by Bill Clinton in 1994. You can't lie this away, no matter how hard you try.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You mean the draft versions of the report?

Flynn lied. He testified under oath. The judge saw the material and said there were no substantive changes between the drafts and the final and threw out the claim.

Bullshit.

If the police suspect that you were speeding, do they have the legal right to rape your wife and continue to do so until you confess?

Because that is EXACTLY what the Inquisition did with Gen. Flynn. When Andrew Weissman who headed the Inquisition (we now know that Grand Inquisitor Mueller-Torquemada was in the 4th stage of Alzheimer's and was a figurehead to distract from the makeup of the witch hunt) moved to try and get Flynn to perjure himself against the president, which was the purpose of the entrapment that Comey and Obama had devised, the LtG. refused. Weissman used the traditional tactics of the KGB, he bankrupted the LtG. He froze the bank accounts and any securities as to deny the LtG. any defense.

But this failed, so Weissman and his gangsters threatened LtG. Flynn's lawyers, Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony. We now know, thanks to the document release, that Weissman engaged in extortion of Covington & Burling (C&B) the firm that employed Flynn's defense team, by making the credible threat that if Kelner and Anthony did not convince LtG. Flynn to confess, the KGB and department of Injustice would launch an assault on C&B. In other words, they compromised the Flynn defense team to work against the interests of their client through extortion to destroy their firm if they did not.

This did not work, at least not initially. KGB agent Peter Strzok along with KGB lawyer Lisa Page cooked up some fabricated charges against the son of LtG. Flynn (also Michael) based on the now discredited Russian Collusion conspiracy theory. The KGB and department of Injustice basically took a page from the 14th century Spanish Inquisition. In that first inquisition they would rape the wife and daughters of the victim until they confessed. Many men would stand up to the torture that Torquemada would levy, but the attacks on their family would break them.

So that's what our KGB and DOI did, they raped Flynn's family, Crooked fuck Weissman is on tape in the newly released exculpatory evidence telling Flynn that if he doesn't confess, they will throw HIS SON in prison and sell his grandchildren into slavery (place them in foster care). Meanwhile they cut a side deal with Kelner and Anthony to back off of C&B, whom the department of Injustice had already begun assaulting AND drop the bogus charges against Flynn Jr. if they would JUST GET FLYNN TO CONFESS.

Flynn had lost his home, every dime he had, and now the gangsters were attacking his family. He withstood more coercion than 90% of us would, but he finally confessed to the fabricated charges by the KGB.

WE KNOW ALL OF THIS, it's in the document dump.

Yet that corrupt pile of shit Sullivan obstructs justice.

 

[forkup]

If someone stands in a courtroom, gets sworn in, pleads guilty to something and then claims he didn't do what he claimed he did later. Does he not, in fact, commit perjury?

Not if he is coerced in ether or both cases, dipshit.

Interesting, how would both be coerced? His lawyer orders him to revise his guilty plea?

 

[Uncensored2008]

If someone stands in a courtroom, gets sworn in, pleads guilty to something and then claims he didn't do what he claimed he did later. Does he not, in fact, commit perjury?

Not if he is coerced in ether or both cases, dipshit.

Interesting, how would both be coerced? His lawyer orders him to revise his guilty plea?

I'm still here.

You KNOW that Strzok engaged in extortion against Covington & Burling to force LtG. Flynn's lawyers, Robert Kelner and Stephen Anthony to pressure him into making the false and coerced confession.

Did you think it was safe to come out lying again? Sorry, not the case.

Consider this, we either have the rule of law, or we don't. IF we don't, there is no reason in the world NOT to drag Emmett Sullivan out into the streets and beat him.

Are you Marxists SURE you want to destroy the rule of law? Absolutely sure?