The Balfour Declaration

[Hollie]

Historic Palestine: The name was used by ancient Greek writers, and it was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima,--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

Yes. There was a geographic area known as Palestine.

You should not feel a need to cut and paste the catalog of maps you usually cut and paste trying to represent a geographic area as something other than a geographic area.

In anticipation of your usual claim that your invented “country of Pally’land” was created by Treaty of Lausanne, no, it was not.

In anticipation of your usual claim that your invented “country of Pally’land” was created by Treaty of Lausanne, no, it was not.

I never said it did.

You fell down and bumped your head again.

One State

Read that again.

Failed deflection.

 

[Shusha]

Judea should have been established for the Jews.

So if the Jews had just called their State Judea instead of Israel, you would not be posting all this nonsense repeatedly?

Judea used to exist for the Jews. Why does Israel exist for Israelis but not Judeans.

Or, can "alleged Jews" simply stop claiming Jewness and simply claim Israeliness.

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

 

[danielpalos]

Judea should have been established for the Jews.

So if the Jews had just called their State Judea instead of Israel, you would not be posting all this nonsense repeatedly?

Judea used to exist for the Jews. Why does Israel exist for Israelis but not Judeans.

Or, can "alleged Jews" simply stop claiming Jewness and simply claim Israeliness.

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

Know thyself; is what Any religion could say.

 

[Shusha]

So if the Jews had just called their State Judea instead of Israel, you would not be posting all this nonsense repeatedly?

Judea used to exist for the Jews. Why does Israel exist for Israelis but not Judeans.

Or, can "alleged Jews" simply stop claiming Jewness and simply claim Israeliness.

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

Know thyself; is what Any religion could say.

It seems that the Jewish people have self-identified, as a collective, and created the State of Israel. So there you go. Nothing more for you to discuss.

 

[danielpalos]

Judea used to exist for the Jews. Why does Israel exist for Israelis but not Judeans.

Or, can "alleged Jews" simply stop claiming Jewness and simply claim Israeliness.

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

Know thyself; is what Any religion could say.

It seems that the Jewish people have self-identified, as a collective, and created the State of Israel. So there you go. Nothing more for you to discuss.

They have a State of Israel not a State of Judea; whence any claim to Judea, when Israel was Chosen, instead.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Judea used to exist for the Jews. Why does Israel exist for Israelis but not Judeans.

Or, can "alleged Jews" simply stop claiming Jewness and simply claim Israeliness.

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

Know thyself; is what Any religion could say.

It seems that the Jewish people have self-identified, as a collective, and created the State of Israel. So there you go. Nothing more for you to discuss.

Time to ignore anything from El Palos

All of us, Israelis, Judeans, Samrians, or from any of the other Israeli tribes are doing just fine, which is all that matters......on our ancient homeland.

 

[danielpalos]

Wait what?! So you think there should be not one but TWO states for Jews? One named Israel for the false Jews and one named Judea for the real (TM) Jews?

Who gets to decide which is which?

True Judeans should want to belong to the State of Judea. True Israelis should want to belong to the State of Israel.

So self-identification, then?

Know thyself; is what Any religion could say.

It seems that the Jewish people have self-identified, as a collective, and created the State of Israel. So there you go. Nothing more for you to discuss.

Time to ignore anything from El Palos

All of us, Israelis, Judeans, Samrians, or from any of the other Israeli tribes are doing just fine, which is all that matters......on our ancient homeland.

Why "Judeans" instead of Israelis, or Any other tribe?

 

[Shusha]

They have a State of Israel not a State of Judea; whence any claim to Judea, when Israel was Chosen, instead.

The Jewish people, having given permission by you (cough cough) to self-identify and self-determine, have done so. You don't get to decide that they should have chosen something else.

 

[danielpalos]

They have a State of Israel not a State of Judea; whence any claim to Judea, when Israel was Chosen, instead.

The Jewish people, having given permission by you (cough cough) to self-identify and self-determine, have done so. You don't get to decide that they should have chosen something else.

There is no State of Judea; only the South has a Cause, more lost.

 

[Kondor3]

Since this is going to come up in the next few weeks with the 100th anniversary, I figured we should start a thread on it.

The relevant text, for reference:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."


I'm going to contrast that declaration with Article 2 of the UNGA 1514 of 14 December 1960

2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

Unless they happen to live in Gaza, where israel enforces a blockade

The trouble with Gaza is that it has Muslim-Arabs in it... they need to pack up and move... before they're forced out.

 

[danielpalos]

Since this is going to come up in the next few weeks with the 100th anniversary, I figured we should start a thread on it.

The relevant text, for reference:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."


I'm going to contrast that declaration with Article 2 of the UNGA 1514 of 14 December 1960

2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

Unless they happen to live in Gaza, where israel enforces a blockade

The trouble with Gaza is that it has Muslim-Arabs in it... they need to pack up and move... before they're forced out.

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

 

[Shusha]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

 

[danielpalos]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

 

[Sixties Fan]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

 

[danielpalos]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

Why the Tribe of Israel and not the Tribe of Judah?

 

[Mindful]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

Why the Tribe of Israel and not the Tribe of Judah?

Which tribe are you?

 

[Sixties Fan]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

Why the Tribe of Israel and not the Tribe of Judah?

Which tribe are you?

Is of the tribe of Christianity, the one which is intent in keeping Jews as lepers and never allow them to have sovereignty or freedom from the garbage Christianity invented about all Jews.

He knows very well the history of the Nation of Israel and does nothing but waste his time with retarded questions meant to demean that Nation.

The Mods have asked us to ignore any of his posts.

Time for us to do so. Let him stew in his hatred of Jews and never ending conspiracy theories.

Let us have fun!!!!!!

 

[Mindful]

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

Why the Tribe of Israel and not the Tribe of Judah?

Which tribe are you?

Is of the tribe of Christianity, the one which is intent in keeping Jews as lepers and never allow them to have sovereignty or freedom from the garbage Christianity invented about all Jews.

He knows very well the history of the Nation of Israel and does nothing but waste his time with retarded questions meant to demean that Nation.

The Mods have asked us to ignore any of his posts.

Time for us to do so. Let him stew in his hatred of Jews and never ending conspiracy theories.

Let us have fun!!!!!!

"Ignore his posts."

Shouldn't be hard to do.

 

[danielpalos]

A State of Judea could be inclusive; if you a a citizen, you are a Judean.

Oh. You mean like Israel.

Yes; but they would be Judeans, not Israelis.

All you have to do is ask the PA and the other Arabs to leave Judea so that Jews can, as it was to be, be sovereign over Judea.
It will not be a separate State, but part of Israel, just as it was at the time of King David and King Solomon.

They will be Judeans, just as before, living in the Nation of Israel.

Over and done, all problems solved, especially yours.

Your confusion will be all gone.

Why the Tribe of Israel and not the Tribe of Judah?

Which tribe are you?

I don't claim one but have another.

 

[Humanity]

Since this is going to come up in the next few weeks with the 100th anniversary, I figured we should start a thread on it.

The relevant text, for reference:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."


I'm going to contrast that declaration with Article 2 of the UNGA 1514 of 14 December 1960

2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

Well, like a bad penny... I'm back!

So, yes, absolutely, a national homeland for the Jewish people....

The rest didn't work out so well did it?

And, to answer a question you asked early on in the thread... I for one don't think it was executed correctly. Do you?