The "Art of the Deal".... Ukraine... when they give Putin everything he wants before they've even started

You are right that Europe should take charge in regional affairs that directly or indirectly affects them, and let us stay the heck out of this bull chit because we catch hell trying to secure our own borders here.
Assuming a role of international leadership after WWII resulted in alliances and trade arrangements that have made the U.S. preeminent among democratic nations.

However, lies and betrayal are the way to go.

 
Assuming a role of international leadership after WWII resulted in alliances and trade arrangements that have made the U.S. preeminent among democratic nations.

However, lies and betrayal are the way to go.

Do you know your Ukrainian history?

From the Christian Science Monitor...not exactly a right leaning publication despite having 'Christian' in it's name.

February 2014...

Sevastopol: A Russian city inside Ukraine's borders?

 
Do you know your Ukrainian history?

From the Christian Science Monitor...not exactly a right leaning publication despite having 'Christian' in it's name.

February 2014...

Sevastopol: A Russian city inside Ukraine's borders?

I know Ukrainian history - It did not stop in 2014. - including its struggle in recent years toward democracy, and its unprovoked invasion by a brutal despot.

The U.S. is now disgracing itself.

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I know Ukrainian history - It did not stop in 2014. - including its struggle in recent years toward democracy, and its unprovoked invasion by a brutal despot.

The U.S. is now disgracing itself.

It did not end in 2014.

Every time the candidate supported by citizens of Eastern Ukraine won an election, there was an uprising in Kiev and he was removed from power. First during the Orange Revolution, next in 2014 with the Revolution of Dignity.

You can understand the frustration of the people who supported and voted for Viktor Yanukovych feeling that the Democratic process had failed them not once, but twice.

Crimea WANTED to leave Ukraine. And Russia made that happen.

It was done.

But Ukraine shut off the fresh water supply to Crimea. Understandable, but an untenable position. Probably the decision that instigated the Russo-Ukraine war. Russia wanted the ethnic Russians in the Donbas Region as part of Russia...but I don't think they would have gone to war over it if it wasn't for the fresh water situation.
 

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Discordant Ukraine statements from Trump team leave allies anxious"​


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But despite the mid-air scare the news was already firmly elsewhere. In Europe, US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth had stunned America's allies with a speech setting out what many saw as a series of concessions Ukraine would have to make to sign any peace deal with Russia brokered by President Trump.

Hegseth said it was "unrealistic" to think Ukraine could win back its sovereign territory occupied by Russia, as was its demand for Nato membership, adding it was up to European and not US troops to keep the peace."

Yep, they've come out and said "you know, the Ukraine is fucked" and this before they've started negotiating. It's like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where Poland was represented by nobody, and the big two countries had already decided what they wanted to do with Poland in the first place.

How can you make a deal, when you've already told one side of the deal "we'll give you all you want"????

This isn't the "Art of the Deal", this is the "Art of the Steal".

So you are expecting Russia to agree to Ukraine's 2014 borders?
 
Or perhaps the EU should step up to the plate, be the large group that it is, and take control of NATO while the US suffers Trump.
I can't wait till DOGE exposes the leftist grift and theft. Stay tuned..
 
It did not end in 2014.

Every time the candidate supported by citizens of Eastern Ukraine won an election, there was an uprising in Kiev and he was removed from power. First during the Orange Revolution, next in 2014 with the Revolution of Dignity.

You can understand the frustration of the people who supported and voted for Viktor Yanukovych feeling that the Democratic process had failed them not once, but twice.

Crimea WANTED to leave Ukraine. And Russia made that happen.

It was done.

But Ukraine shut off the fresh water supply to Crimea. Understandable, but an untenable position. Probably the decision that instigated the Russo-Ukraine war. Russia wanted the ethnic Russians in the Donbas Region as part of Russia...but I don't think they would have gone to war over it if it wasn't for the fresh water situation.
You appear compelled by a need to flail the orange pom poms at the azzhole's now parroting Putin's lies.

Regardless, both nation's should cease hostilities and withdraw to their pre-2014 borders.
 
You appear compelled by a need to flail the orange pom poms at the azzhole's now parroting Putin's lies.

Regardless, both nation's should cease hostilities and withdraw to their pre-2014 borders.
How do YOU know these are lies and the propaganda you've been spoon fed is the gospel?

This version has the wonderful benefit of making sense.

So why should I take EITHER side.

I don't know what's true and you don't know what's true. In the absence of concrete knowledge, our most logical course of action is to NOT take a side.

Which has been my position all along.

If you want to believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction because someone on the TV, or from the government told you so...by guest. But I already drank the government Kool aid and found it not no my taste.

I say what I've said all along. Let them...and their European neighbors sort out this pile of monkeys.
 

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Discordant Ukraine statements from Trump team leave allies anxious"​


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But despite the mid-air scare the news was already firmly elsewhere. In Europe, US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth had stunned America's allies with a speech setting out what many saw as a series of concessions Ukraine would have to make to sign any peace deal with Russia brokered by President Trump.

Hegseth said it was "unrealistic" to think Ukraine could win back its sovereign territory occupied by Russia, as was its demand for Nato membership, adding it was up to European and not US troops to keep the peace."

Yep, they've come out and said "you know, the Ukraine is fucked" and this before they've started negotiating. It's like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where Poland was represented by nobody, and the big two countries had already decided what they wanted to do with Poland in the first place.

How can you make a deal, when you've already told one side of the deal "we'll give you all you want"????

This isn't the "Art of the Deal", this is the "Art of the Steal".
Once again, Trump is five or six steps ahead of the leftwing clowns. He's the top negotiator in the world. Every single time, he puts something out there and the leftwingers and their media jump right on it. "SEE? SEE WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO?" Then he does something a little different and gets what he wants. Perfect example: Tariffs. This is a behavior tools Trump uses to get what he wants. He may threaten them, he may employ them for a short time. Eventually he gets what he wants, and the economy is better for it. He is a master at misdirecting the leftwing media and sending it on a wild goose chase.
 
Assuming a role of international leadership after WWII resulted in alliances and trade arrangements that have made the U.S. preeminent among democratic nations.

However, lies and betrayal are the way to go.

How many lies are you people willing to tell because of your hatred for Trump ? I hope him and Elon expose the leftist/Marxists in this country, and a call goes out to arrest the crooks that have stolen our money, and then squandered it away like it was there own to do.

The justice train is steamrolling now, and hopefully it'll be stopping at every crooked politician's door that blew our money real soon.
 
This lie and betrayal even has conservative Republicans who groveled before the azzhole out of fear whimpering. Aiding and abetting Putin's savagery is too much for them.
 
Once again, Trump is five or six steps ahead of the leftwing clowns. He's the top negotiator in the world. Every single time, he puts something out there and the leftwingers and their media jump right on it. "SEE? SEE WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO?" Then he does something a little different and gets what he wants. Perfect example: Tariffs. This is a behavior tools Trump uses to get what he wants. He may threaten them, he may employ them for a short time. Eventually he gets what he wants, and the economy is better for it. He is a master at misdirecting the leftwing media and sending it on a wild goose chase.

And yet the US gets seen badly and people don't trust the US any more. This will hurt the US in the years to come. Make it poorer too.
 

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Discordant Ukraine statements from Trump team leave allies anxious"​


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But despite the mid-air scare the news was already firmly elsewhere. In Europe, US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth had stunned America's allies with a speech setting out what many saw as a series of concessions Ukraine would have to make to sign any peace deal with Russia brokered by President Trump.

Hegseth said it was "unrealistic" to think Ukraine could win back its sovereign territory occupied by Russia, as was its demand for Nato membership, adding it was up to European and not US troops to keep the peace."

Yep, they've come out and said "you know, the Ukraine is fucked" and this before they've started negotiating. It's like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where Poland was represented by nobody, and the big two countries had already decided what they wanted to do with Poland in the first place.

How can you make a deal, when you've already told one side of the deal "we'll give you all you want"????

This isn't the "Art of the Deal", this is the "Art of the Steal".
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Reporting on something, and actually knowing the real truth are two separate thing's. Hey you as a leftist should know that by now, otherwise you've had an example of it in leftwing media for which you've praised daily over the year's. 😆
 
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