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The Anti-Vaxxer In This Video Needs To Be Charged With Manslaughter!!!

John T. Ford

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I don't think the guy in the wheel chair was of sound mind.

If you watch the video, the pushy Italian kept saying "Let's Go... " like hundreds of times.

The poor old man was coerced and it cost him his life.

The Italian needs to be charged.
They would also have to prove that the patient leaving the hospital was a dirrect cause of his death.

Both of which seem possible.
 

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Of sound mind? The guy was deathly ill and scared for his life. He had a “friend” spouting lies based on whatever over politicized kooky news sources he tunes into and convinced his “friend” to go against the doctors becausehe would die if he stayed in the hospital.

It’s not a crime to be a brainwashed puppet like this dude obviously was but the situation should be highlighted and used to combat all the false narratives flying around out there so situations like this don’t happen again.

There may be a civil suit for the family
That would be up to the courts to decide.

All seems possible from what little we know of the story.
 

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They would also have to prove that the patient leaving the hospital was a dirrect cause of his death.

Both of which seem possible.

In a civil suit, all they would need jurors to agree with is a preponderance of the evidence - Beyond a reasonable doubt would not apply.
 

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In a civil suit, all they would need jurors to agree with is a preponderance of the evidence - Beyond a reasonable doubt would not apply.
Yep and apparently the family is pissed.
 

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The patient did.

Nonsense - Who let him in the freaking room? Even family members are not allowed to visit COVID patients, let alone remove them from a hospital. Are Italian hospitals that stupid??
 

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What's the cured to dead ratio for hospitals? I've seen two published articles by nurses stating covid care in hospitals is not all it can be.
 
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Nonsense - Who let him in the freaking room? Even family members are not allowed to visit COVID patients, let alone remove them from a hospital. Are Italian hospitals that stupid??
This was Ireland... the Italian guy has been involved in other controversies before this incident.
 
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What's the cured to dead ratio for hospitals? I've seen two published articles by nurses stating covid care in hospitals is not all it can be.
The cure ratio in a hospital is still way better than staying home with "thoughts and prayers" and taking horse de-wormer to "cure" you of severe COVID symptoms.
 

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Who in the hell gave this asshole the authority to "remove him from the hospital" :dunno:
He signed himself out and his wife was there too.
 

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Nonsense - Who let him in the freaking room? Even family members are not allowed to visit COVID patients, let alone remove them from a hospital. Are Italian hospitals that stupid??
It happened in Ireland and as long as the patient consents to leave even with assistance the hospital by law cannot hold the patient against their will.
 

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This was Ireland... the Italian guy has been involved in other controversies before this incident.

Right - Thanks for the correction. What a bizarre story. If I were to attempt entry into a COVID ward and remove a patient anywhere in the US, I'd be in prison for sure.
 

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.... you cannot hold the so called "anti-vaxxer" responsible if the patient left the hospital of sound mind
People with sound minds don't leave the hospital with deadly diseases.
 

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Oh hell, if it was my family member I'd be f'n LIVID!
I understand ..... but if the patient is of sound mind you cannot force them to stay anymore than the hospital can.
 

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The cure ratio in a hospital is still way better than staying home with "thoughts and prayers" and taking horse de-wormer to "cure" you of severe COVID symptoms.

Indeed, injecting disinfectants would probably be a bad idea also ;)
 

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Nonsense - Who let him in the freaking room? Even family members are not allowed to visit COVID patients, let alone remove them from a hospital. Are Italian hospitals that stupid??
So perhaps it was all another part of the covid shit show?
 

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People with sound minds don't leave the hospital with deadly diseases.
Well .... of course that seems logical but, that would be something the courts would have to decide.

Considering if there were repercussions.
 

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