That Obamacare penalty will be bigger than you think

[Arianrhod]

So you post that but wont answer my question?
Let me re-word it.. what does that have to do with the ACA?

The answer is obvious to anyone who understands that politicians have a tendency to remember who's throwing money at them.

 

[TNHarley]

So you post that but wont answer my question?
Let me re-word it.. what does that have to do with the ACA?

The answer is obvious to anyone who understands that politicians have a tendency to remember who's throwing money at them.

So republicans voted for it?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

From CNBC? How can Obama's mouthpiece report something like this?



Households that opt to go without health insurance in 2016 are set to get hit with an average Obamacare fine of $969.



And then, it says this:



And households without insurance that earn too much to qualify for financial aid to buy Obamacare plans will pay an even larger fine for 2016 — an average of $1,450, versus the average of $1,177 for 2015.



Uninsured households that would qualify for Obamacare subsidies to help pay for coverage face an average fine of $738 — nearly double the $389 average for this year.



How's that Hope and Change working for you?



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BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It takes a special kind of stupid to say "Ima pay the penalty and get nothing and if I get sick I'll go to the ER. That'll show Obama!"

I still don't understand why liberals are always so sick and accident prone?

35 years and counting I have not been to a quack.

Your time will come.
I never went to the doc at that age either.
Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

 

[Arianrhod]

So republicans voted for it?

As I say, obvious to those who understand how things work in Congress. To others, not so much.

BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

And you're informed enough to realize you have other options, as opposed to the chronic whiners.

However, I'm wondering whether your state has an insurance exchange and, if so, whether you've consulted it? You might find lower-premium options.

 

[Arianrhod]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So republicans voted for it?

As I say, obvious to those who understand how things work in Congress. To others, not so much.

BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

And you're informed enough to realize you have other options, as opposed to the chronic whiners.

However, I'm wondering whether your state has an insurance exchange and, if so, whether you've consulted it? You might find lower-premium options.

Nothing that would compare with my previous coverage.
All of my other options include a cut in coverage or a rise in price in one form or another whether it's prescription cost,deductibles or premium.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

Of course,but being forced to purchase a healthcare policy that is pretty much useless is a travesty.

 

[Arianrhod]

So republicans voted for it?

As I say, obvious to those who understand how things work in Congress. To others, not so much.

BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

And you're informed enough to realize you have other options, as opposed to the chronic whiners.

However, I'm wondering whether your state has an insurance exchange and, if so, whether you've consulted it? You might find lower-premium options.

Nothing that would compare with my previous coverage.
All of my other options include a cut in coverage or a rise in price in one form or another whether it's prescription cost,deductibles or premium.

I'm sorry to hear that. Greedy fucks are pouting because they can't refuse people for preexisting conditions anymore. Single-payer would put them SoL.

 

[Arianrhod]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

Of course,but being forced to purchase a healthcare policy that is pretty much useless is a travesty.

If the policy they've chosen is "pretty much useless," as you've pointed out in Post #23, they do have other options.

And anything that teaches Millennials about personal responsibility is a plus, IMO.

 

[TNHarley]

So republicans voted for it?

As I say, obvious to those who understand how things work in Congress. To others, not so much.

BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

And you're informed enough to realize you have other options, as opposed to the chronic whiners.

However, I'm wondering whether your state has an insurance exchange and, if so, whether you've consulted it? You might find lower-premium options.

So they didn't vote for it? HMM interesting.
So, instead, they tried to do amendments IE "compromise" and they all got shut down. IMAGINE THAT

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So republicans voted for it?

As I say, obvious to those who understand how things work in Congress. To others, not so much.

BCBS Wanted a 55% increase on our policy this year which would have put or monthly premium at around $1500.00 a month. Needless to say we're looking at other options.
This shit is getting ridiculous.

And you're informed enough to realize you have other options, as opposed to the chronic whiners.

However, I'm wondering whether your state has an insurance exchange and, if so, whether you've consulted it? You might find lower-premium options.

Nothing that would compare with my previous coverage.
All of my other options include a cut in coverage or a rise in price in one form or another whether it's prescription cost,deductibles or premium.

I'm sorry to hear that. Greedy fucks are pouting because they can't refuse people for preexisting conditions anymore. Single-payer would put them SoL.

I'll probably just end up biting the bullet to keep my quality healthcare secure in the knowledge that the ACA will collapse under it's own weight eventually and we can start fixing the problem.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

Of course,but being forced to purchase a healthcare policy that is pretty much useless is a travesty.

If the policy they've chosen is "pretty much useless," as you've pointed out in Post #23, they do have other options.

And anything that teaches Millennials about personal responsibility is a plus, IMO.

If teaching them the government is out to fuck em is your idea teaching personal responsibility than yeah I guess so.

 

[Arianrhod]

So they didn't vote for it? HMM interesting.
So, instead, they tried to do amendments IE "compromise" and they all got shut down. IMAGINE THAT

It would take a hyperactive imagination to create such a binary universe. Imagine on, Baby.

I'll probably just end up biting the bullet to keep my quality healthcare secure in the knowledge that the ACA will collapse under it's own weight eventually and we can start fixing the problem.

The PPACA is not what it set out to be, and the U.S. will transition to single-payer eventually.

 

[Arianrhod]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

Of course,but being forced to purchase a healthcare policy that is pretty much useless is a travesty.

If the policy they've chosen is "pretty much useless," as you've pointed out in Post #23, they do have other options.

And anything that teaches Millennials about personal responsibility is a plus, IMO.

If teaching them the government is out to fuck em is your idea teaching personal responsibility than yeah I guess so.

Actually, it's the insurance companies that are continuing to fuck with people, which is why those of us who'd have preferred single-payer got shouted down.

 

[TNHarley]

So they didn't vote for it? HMM interesting.
So, instead, they tried to do amendments IE "compromise" and they all got shut down. IMAGINE THAT

It would take a hyperactive imagination to create such a binary universe. Imagine on, Baby.

I'll probably just end up biting the bullet to keep my quality healthcare secure in the knowledge that the ACA will collapse under it's own weight eventually and we can start fixing the problem.

The PPACA is not what it set out to be, and the U.S. will transition to single-payer eventually.

Sooooo you have nothing but EMPTY rhetoric... Nice

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So they didn't vote for it? HMM interesting.
So, instead, they tried to do amendments IE "compromise" and they all got shut down. IMAGINE THAT

It would take a hyperactive imagination to create such a binary universe. Imagine on, Baby.

I'll probably just end up biting the bullet to keep my quality healthcare secure in the knowledge that the ACA will collapse under it's own weight eventually and we can start fixing the problem.

The PPACA is not what it set out to be, and the U.S. will transition to single-payer eventually.

I guess we'll see.
If it does,there goes any chance at quality healthcare in this country.
But thats the socialist way...make everyone equally miserable.
Except for the political elite of course.

 

[TNHarley]

Of course obama knows the young wont be going to the docs often...in fact he's counting on it.

As would anyone who understands the Pareto principle that all insurance is based on.

Of course,but being forced to purchase a healthcare policy that is pretty much useless is a travesty.

If the policy they've chosen is "pretty much useless," as you've pointed out in Post #23, they do have other options.

And anything that teaches Millennials about personal responsibility is a plus, IMO.

If teaching them the government is out to fuck em is your idea teaching personal responsibility than yeah I guess so.

Actually, it's the insurance companies that are continuing to fuck with people, which is why those of us who'd have preferred single-payer got shouted down.

And the people that had anything to do with this monstrosity.
I hate it when people never blame the government considering THEY are the ones that paved the way for this shit to happen!
Its like "the 1% are taking everything" Then quit voting in corporatists you goddamn morons!

 

[Arianrhod]

I hate it when people never blame the government considering THEY are the ones that paved the way for this shit to happen!

So you're laboring under the delusion that health insurance was all lollipops and kittens prior to 2014.

I guess we'll see.
If it does,there goes any chance at quality healthcare in this country.

Because every single country with single-payer insurance is so profoundly unhappy with it that they've abandoned it? Not.

Yours is an interesting perspective. You're aware of the pitfalls of for-profit insurers, but you see single-payer as a threat. Is there a third option other than "If you can't pay for your $100,000 a year treatment, just die"?

 

[TNHarley]

I hate it when people never blame the government considering THEY are the ones that paved the way for this shit to happen!

So you're laboring under the delusion that health insurance was all lollipops and kittens prior to 2014.

I guess we'll see.
If it does,there goes any chance at quality healthcare in this country.

Because every single country with single-payer insurance is so profoundly unhappy with it that they've abandoned it? Not.

Yours is an interesting perspective. You're aware of the pitfalls of for-profit insurers, but you see single-payer as a threat. Is there a third option other than "If you can't pay for your $100,000 a year treatment, just die"?

Nope. But the main problems with healthcare, costs, didn't even get addressed! Its a goddamn fools party.