It would be a new experience, as I've always been able to lessen tensions by being self effacing and using wry humor. As a narcissist you have no clue as to how effective that can be, nor any understanding of why so many on this forum find you at best to be a tedious partisan.
Do you not understand that Marx supported the down trodden, and in - for example - the Soviet System and China they have suffered under despotic rule? I can't believe you are so stupid as to not comprehend such an obvious issue, thus I must continue to believe you are a perfidious and dishonest partisan troll.
Gads, you're a dunce.
Please, dunce.....write this again:
"Marxism had nothing to do with the murders of millions..."
OK.....this is almost as good:
"Do you not understand that Marx supported the down trodden"
Even stupid people think you are a moron.
And now for reality:
"
Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls
'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
b. "
Before Marx, no other European thinker publicly advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
I love providing education to Liberals who have been deprived of same in government schools, and I don't mind shredding attempts by Liberals to rebut same...but the most fun is spotlighting your infirmities.
I used to be surprised at how truly stupid you Leftists are.....but you have disabused me of that.
Now I treat it as humor.
C'mon....one more time.....say it again: "Marxism had nothing to do with the murders of millions..."
"Marxism had nothing to the with the murder of millions"; genocide has been the practice of evil men and exists even today in ISIS and not explicitly stated but inherit in the words of many white men running today for the nomination in their party to be the next POTUS.
Let me mentor you with what may seem to be a childish link, but one which is clear as to the thinking of Marx and Engels at least in their words and efforts to publish the Manifesto. Note that racism, slavery and murder are not explicit in this summary, nor in the Manifesto itself. If Marx, born a Jew, was an antisemite it would not be uncommon for many in the mid 19th Century and even today are antisemites. No where is genocide a practice unless one comports revolution as a form of it.
SparkNotes: The Communist Manifesto: Summary
Once again, Socialism in Western Europe is market based and egalitarian - China and Russia - each having a power elite which pulls the strings is not an example of the latter even though both have market economies (note: not free markets, as the State does not have absolute control of the economy). The RED SCARE is ironic in the sense that both China an Russia are run by conservatives, and like the US, all reject equal rights, rejecting Pluralism (listen to Trump and Cruz as examples and evidence) and resistant to change.
It would be a new experience, as I've always been able to lessen tensions by being self effacing and using wry humor. As a narcissist you have no clue as to how effective that can be, nor any understanding of why so many on this forum find you at best to be a tedious partisan.
Do you not understand that Marx supported the down trodden, and in - for example - the Soviet System and China they have suffered under despotic rule? I can't believe you are so stupid as to not comprehend such an obvious issue, thus I must continue to believe you are a perfidious and dishonest partisan troll.
Gads, you're a dunce.
Please, dunce.....write this again:
"Marxism had nothing to do with the murders of millions..."
OK.....this is almost as good:
"Do you not understand that Marx supported the down trodden"
Even stupid people think you are a moron.
And now for reality:
"
Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls
'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
b. "
Before Marx, no other European thinker publicly advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
I love providing education to Liberals who have been deprived of same in government schools, and I don't mind shredding attempts by Liberals to rebut same...but the most fun is spotlighting your infirmities.
I used to be surprised at how truly stupid you Leftists are.....but you have disabused me of that.
Now I treat it as humor.
C'mon....one more time.....say it again: "Marxism had nothing to do with the murders of millions..."
"Marxism had nothing to the with the murder of millions"; genocide has been the practice of evil men and exists even today in ISIS and not explicitly stated but inherit in the words of many white men running today for the nomination in their party to be the next POTUS.
Let me mentor you with what may seem to be a childish link, but one which is clear as to the thinking of Marx and Engels at least in their words and efforts to publish the Manifesto. Note that racism, slavery and murder are not explicit in this summary, nor in the Manifesto itself. If Marx, born a Jew, was an antisemite it would not be uncommon for many in the mid 19th Century and even today are antisemites. No where is genocide a practice unless one comports revolution as a form of it.
SparkNotes: The Communist Manifesto: Summary
Once again, Socialism in Western Europe is market based and egalitarian - China and Russia - each having a power elite which pulls the strings is not an example of the latter even though both have market economies (note: not free markets, as the State does not have absolute control of the economy). The RED SCARE is ironic in the sense that both China an Russia are run by conservatives, and like the US, all reject equal rights, rejecting Pluralism (listen to Trump and Cruz as examples and evidence) and resistant to change.
"Marxism had nothing to the with the murder of millions"
Excellent!
Exposing the asininity of posters is one of my guilty pleasures.....but it would be redundant in your case.
Lest any reader mistake your ability at a keyboard as representing either education or intelligence, this one sentence alone should identify your lack of either.
"Marxism had nothing to the with the murder of millions"
"Marxism–Leninismis a
political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of
Marxism and
Leninism, and seeks to establish
socialist statesand develop them further. Marxist–Leninists espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of Marxism and Leninism, but generally they support the idea of a
vanguard party,
one-party rule,
state-dominance over the economy,
internationalism, opposition to
bourgeois democracy, and opposition to
capitalism.
It remains the official ideology of the ruling parties of China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam, and was the official ideology of the
Communist Party of the Soviet Union(CPSU) and the other ruling parties making up the
Eastern Bloc.....
Marxism–Leninism first became a distinct philosophical movement in the Soviet Union during the 1920s, when
Joseph Stalinand his supporters gained control of the Russian Communist Party (bolsheviks)."
Marxism–Leninism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And, on to the larger point....that particular phrase suggested by what you have under your hat....
...why is it that Democrat voters, Obama supporters, have the knee-jerk reaction to support and serve as apologists for
Marxism, communism, and Stalin....
...yet snarl with anger at the mention of Nazis and Hitler???
1. Both doctrines can be traced to your fav, Karl Marx
2. By every single metric....Stalin and communism was far worse than Hitler and Nazism,
3. Stalin slaughtered more than Hitler
4. And the Democrat Party stands for the very same things that the Communist Party did.
Clearly, indoctrination is indelible.....you serve as proof.
In short, I'm glad to see you're not letting education get in the way of your ignorance
First of all, you're an idiot. And second...nah, that pretty much covers it.