Thanks for nothing Donald Trump ... Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal

[yidnar]

It's not Trump fault. A great majority are opposed to having to think these days, one example is how Common Core math is ill-received. Back in the day workers knew their business inside and out. Now too many are satisfied in relying on an app and are at a loss without it. Those types as the old saying goes, are a dime a dozen.

Upton Sinclair — 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'

Subservience to authority is a key characteristic of the US workplace after a burst of freedom in the 1960s which was eventually suppressed. That's why ex-military personnel proliferate in US businesses. They are trained to be subservient upward and demand subservience downward.

American workers now apologize for actions that require no apology because being apologetic is seen as a desirable character trait.

you dont want to work ! ok we get it ...bum !

dont take things so seriously ! i know i like to get rude and insulting to people who also get rude ! its all in fun ! in truth i dont have anything personal against democrats even though i disagree with them on political matters i dont hate them and most of the over the top insults and retorts i give are in good fun ! and i enjoy it when someone comes back at me with a good zinger .most people on the right and left want the same things like security basic needs and happiness and freedom ! we just sometimes disagree on the way to go about it ! so relax everything is going to be ok ! we are Americans and in times of trouble we always find a way to set aside our differences to come together to help one another.

 

[Denizen]

Welcome to the bogus economy and TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome fueled by burgeoning debt and stoked by the First Loser.

You have to respect Donald Trump for being astute enough to recognize that the poorly-educated are a majority in US society and going after them.

Donald Trump is inflating the expectations of his howling mob by making promises he doesn't intend to keep and can't keep.

US debt has increased by $10,000 per worker during Trump's tenure while "53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year" and have traveled backward. If Trump's debt trajectory continues, the 53 million Americans will soon have a net negative value as the debt balloons to stratospheric values.

The Donald Trump trajectory portends a horrendous recession which will make Lebanon and Zimbabwe look like desirable economic models.

Good jobs are rising slower than the population which means more and more Americans are doomed to TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome.

Trump and his sycophantic associates still don't understand that the economy and job quality has not recovered from the Bush depression that caused many new graduates to lose the opportunity to establish a career in a chosen profession and many had to settle for low-quality low pay jobs. Many of these unfortunate people have not recovered from this setback and won't under Trump's leadership.

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal - Legal Reader

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal
DAWN ALLEN — January 27, 2020

Low-wage workers make up nearly half of the American workforce, and many of them are the sole breadwinners for their families.

Last November, the Brookings Institution released a study concluding that nearly half of working age Americans are employed in low-wage jobs. They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year.

The fact that 44% of the American workforce now finds itself in such a precarious economic situation might come as a surprise to those who imagine low-wage work to be the domain of teenagers, college students, the newly-hired, or those taking on side gigs for extra cash. Instead, these jobs are the main way that many people support their families, especially in smaller cities in the southern and western regions of the United States. 26% of low-wage earners are the sole breadwinners for their household, and another 25% live in households where all earners work in low-paying jobs.

Perhaps the most obvious solution to improving conditions for these workers is to provide education, retraining, and skill upgrades so that they qualify for better jobs. Indeed, 40% of low-wage workers between the ages of 25-64 have, at most, a high school diploma, while another 13% are young people without degrees who are not in school. That means, however, that nearly half of the workers in low-paying jobs already have higher levels of educational attainment.

Simply getting more education won’t cause jobs to magically appear, either. The Occupy movement was full of college-educated people who couldn’t find sufficient jobs to pay back crushing student debt. Perhaps it’s true that “they should have gotten STEM degrees,” (and not those pesky Women’s Studies or sociology majors) as those on the Libertarian/Conservative spectrum self-righteously preached in 2011, but remember how that sentiment morphed into right-wing trolls mocking laid-off “elite” journalists with the condescending mantra of “better learn to code, then” by 2019? (Besides, if everyone learned to code, it would become just another low-wage job.)

the people i know are doing a lot better than they were 3 yrs ago ! the fact is that someone who is able and willing to work is doing better . as far as individual debt ......you're probably talking credit cards ..in most cases thats do to buying a lot of things you dont need and a lack of something you and your fellow comrades hate! its called personal responsibility .

If Americans stopped buying the things they don't need the economy would collapse.

oh you may be right ...and then again you may be wrong ... what if instead of blowing their money they saved to put a down payment on a house that was within their means instead of paying rent ... and just what is your solution for this so called terrible economy ?

If everybody saved and didn't buy consumer goods the economy would collapse.

It is too late to correct the economy now with the coronavirus outbreak having adverse effects.

Trump should not have engaged in the trade war while also taking other economic actions.

In regards to housing, this is a growing problem and the solution is a government policy to foster the provision of appropriate housing. Americans will also have to be taught to downgrade their expectations with regard to house and apartment size and accept smaller residences until their economic situation improves and they can afford to upgrade to what they want.

 

[Denizen]

The entire Democratic " progressive " open boarders stuff that totally coincides with illegals aliens / American homeless is just a GINORMOUS coincidence...SHHH, pretend you don't notice....go on your tippy toes....

"open boarders" indeed. You exemplify why Donald Trump loves the poorly educated.

Your conflating illegals aliens with homelessness is further evidence you are poorly informed and victim of dogma and propaganda.

 

[Denizen]

Us? You and your multiple personalities?

Here's a tip. Invest in your human capital and you might profit.

I've already doubled the value of my investments. In fact, last year I had a 33% increase in the value of my portfolio.

That's with the investments from my low income.

Does that mean your wealth no longer doubles when you fill your gas tank on credit?

Family Dollar will miss you.

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

I can screen shot that if you really want to see it.

Living within your means, is just that. Debt is a function of over spending, not a function of how much you make. Michael Jackson was on the verge of bankruptcy when he died, after having earned by most estimates, over a billion dollars in his life.

Being smart with money is how you end up wealthy. That's why people bad with money stay poor, and people good with money end up rich.

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Someone pretty please explain to PROGS our standard of living will continue to be on the decline, much of which is the result of PROG-view (ILMAO @ blaming Trump):

1. Monopolies like Amazon and Google. The owners are PROGS.
2. Open immigration
3. High taxes
4. Globalization
5. Over-crowding & world-population
6. Technology

We're no longer the only game in town dumbshits. PROG education fails to produce effective employees anyway.

 

[Markle]

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You've just missed the point.

Specifically, how is this missing the point?

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You posted a cartoon of a lie. Why?

You describe an iconic cartoon classic depicting infamous dickhead Pullman literally "screwing" the workers as "a lie" and wonder what you're missing?
What was Mike G deliberately "missing" (misrepresenting, lying about)? The topic is about low wages remaining low,.. Currently "rising" or no.. Increasingly "the norm",.. Most likely since before you were born. Too low! Not sufficient to live as well as "The Greatest Generation" let alone "better than." Duh. Got two cars? In your own garage? Lucky, lucky you! Congratulations! You're far from "the norm" these days.
It's okay. I know. I know. You're so used to smearing lipstick on this pig you just can't help yourself. Take this to the bank: It won't be Trump who saves you from yourself..

You post...malarkey on a grand scale. That's all you have, isn't it?

Denigrating the Greatest Generation is something far beneath virtually anyone else, Democrat, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Republicans, or Conservatives...except for you. You must be proud. You don't even know what it means, do you?

For whatever, I live alone, have a 4-car garage with 2 cars and my custom Harley. One car is another toy, my '66 GTO I've owned since 1969.

 

[Markle]

Us? You and your multiple personalities?

Here's a tip. Invest in your human capital and you might profit.

I've already doubled the value of my investments. In fact, last year I had a 33% increase in the value of my portfolio.

That's with the investments from my low income.

Does that mean your wealth no longer doubles when you fill your gas tank on credit?

Family Dollar will miss you.

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

I can screen shot that if you really want to see it.

Living within your means, is just that. Debt is a function of over spending, not a function of how much you make. Michael Jackson was on the verge of bankruptcy when he died, after having earned by most estimates, over a billion dollars in his life.

Being smart with money is how you end up wealthy. That's why people bad with money stay poor, and people good with money end up rich.

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

I'm not sure how I live, is like a pauper.

However, there is a long term reason. You live a lower standard of living today, so that you can live a better standard of living tomorrow.

My parents are proof of this. They didn't live a high end life style for most of the time I was growing up. Didn't even own a TV set, let alone cable for most of my young life.

Today, they have been on cruises, and own a lake house, and went on a month long road trip out west one year. Another year the rented a room at Yellowstone for a month. They do all kinds of things.

They are millionaires today, because they lived more modestly in the past.

And many people do this.

A janitor secretly amassed an $8 million fortune and left most of it to his library and hospital

He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

My guess is that you live under a bridge and you use the computer at the public library. No one else would be compelled to use two lengthy posts to boast about their and their parent's enormous wealth.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Welcome to the bogus economy and TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome fueled by burgeoning debt and stoked by the First Loser.

You have to respect Donald Trump for being astute enough to recognize that the poorly-educated are a majority in US society and going after them.

Donald Trump is inflating the expectations of his howling mob by making promises he doesn't intend to keep and can't keep.

US debt has increased by $10,000 per worker during Trump's tenure while "53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year" and have traveled backward. If Trump's debt trajectory continues, the 53 million Americans will soon have a net negative value as the debt balloons to stratospheric values.

The Donald Trump trajectory portends a horrendous recession which will make Lebanon and Zimbabwe look like desirable economic models.

Good jobs are rising slower than the population which means more and more Americans are doomed to TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome.

Trump and his sycophantic associates still don't understand that the economy and job quality has not recovered from the Bush depression that caused many new graduates to lose the opportunity to establish a career in a chosen profession and many had to settle for low-quality low pay jobs. Many of these unfortunate people have not recovered from this setback and won't under Trump's leadership.

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal - Legal Reader

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal
DAWN ALLEN — January 27, 2020

Low-wage workers make up nearly half of the American workforce, and many of them are the sole breadwinners for their families.

Last November, the Brookings Institution released a study concluding that nearly half of working age Americans are employed in low-wage jobs. They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year.

The fact that 44% of the American workforce now finds itself in such a precarious economic situation might come as a surprise to those who imagine low-wage work to be the domain of teenagers, college students, the newly-hired, or those taking on side gigs for extra cash. Instead, these jobs are the main way that many people support their families, especially in smaller cities in the southern and western regions of the United States. 26% of low-wage earners are the sole breadwinners for their household, and another 25% live in households where all earners work in low-paying jobs.

Perhaps the most obvious solution to improving conditions for these workers is to provide education, retraining, and skill upgrades so that they qualify for better jobs. Indeed, 40% of low-wage workers between the ages of 25-64 have, at most, a high school diploma, while another 13% are young people without degrees who are not in school. That means, however, that nearly half of the workers in low-paying jobs already have higher levels of educational attainment.

Simply getting more education won’t cause jobs to magically appear, either. The Occupy movement was full of college-educated people who couldn’t find sufficient jobs to pay back crushing student debt. Perhaps it’s true that “they should have gotten STEM degrees,” (and not those pesky Women’s Studies or sociology majors) as those on the Libertarian/Conservative spectrum self-righteously preached in 2011, but remember how that sentiment morphed into right-wing trolls mocking laid-off “elite” journalists with the condescending mantra of “better learn to code, then” by 2019? (Besides, if everyone learned to code, it would become just another low-wage job.)

Good jobs are rising slower than the population you say, yet the left wants to open borders for vast numbers of poorly educated to march on in and somehow pay for their education, health care, a green new deal and miraculously pay down the national debt. It isn't going to happen. The only thing that will happen, is absolutely everyone becomes poor. Think Venezuela.

 

[MeBelle]

"53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year"

I love when fucktards misinterpret statistics. Idiots.

The fact that 44% of the American workforce now finds itself in such a precarious economic situation might come as a surprise .

152 million employed Americans. If this misleading stat is correct, the bottom 35%, the bottom 53 million, have a median wage of $10.22 an hour. That means 26.5 million are above $10.22 an hour and 26.5 million are below.

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Table 5. Quartiles and selected deciles of usual weekly earnings of full-time wage and salary workers by selected characteristics, fourth quarter 2019 averages, not seasonally adjusted

According to the BLS, of 118.2 million full-time workers, the bottom 10% topped out at $467 a week,
Full-time is usually between 32-40 hours a week. So that's between minimum wage and $11.68 for a 40 hour week and between minimum wage and $14.59 for a 32 hour week.

And that's the bottom 10%. The bottom 11.8 million.
That means the 26.5 million in your lying stat, who make below $10.22 an hour, are probably mostly part-time workers.

omg - you gave way too much info!

Most won't understand this information.

Sadly, most won't TRY to understand ...

 

[Denizen]

Someone pretty please explain to PROGS our standard of living will continue to be on the decline, much of which is the result of PROG-view (ILMAO @ blaming Trump):

1. Monopolies like Amazon and Google. The owners are PROGS.
2. Open immigration
3. High taxes
4. Globalization
5. Over-crowding & world-population
6. Technology

We're no longer the only game in town dumbshits. PROG education fails to produce effective employees anyway.

America needs subservient obsequious dumbos like you and your ilk.

 

[Grumblenuts]

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You've just missed the point.

Specifically, how is this missing the point?

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You posted a cartoon of a lie. Why?

You describe an iconic cartoon classic depicting infamous dickhead Pullman literally "screwing" the workers as "a lie" and wonder what you're missing?
What was Mike G deliberately "missing" (misrepresenting, lying about)? The topic is about low wages remaining low,.. Currently "rising" or no.. Increasingly "the norm",.. Most likely since before you were born. Too low! Not sufficient to live as well as "The Greatest Generation" let alone "better than." Duh. Got two cars? In your own garage? Lucky, lucky you! Congratulations! You're far from "the norm" these days.
It's okay. I know. I know. You're so used to smearing lipstick on this pig you just can't help yourself. Take this to the bank: It won't be Trump who saves you from yourself..

You post...malarkey on a grand scale. That's all you have, isn't it?

Denigrating the Greatest Generation is something far beneath virtually anyone else, Democrat, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Republicans, or Conservatives...except for you. You must be proud. You don't even know what it means, do you?

For whatever, I live alone, have a 4-car garage with 2 cars and my custom Harley. One car is another toy, my '66 GTO I've owned since 1969.

Your personal possessions are not really relevant. It was a rhetorical reference to drive home the point which unfortunately still appears beyond your ability to comprehend. Nobody was "Denigrating the Greatest Generation", you idiot. Quite the contrary. They implemented the New Deal reforms enabling you to buy those nice toys because they strongly felt that your life should be easier and better than theirs. Trump's daddy felt the same for little Donny. Such priorities are long gone now. Instead we've allowed ourselves to be diminished and infected with corporate greed. Left having to hope the ******* billionaires do something right once in a while..

 

[Andylusion]

I've already doubled the value of my investments. In fact, last year I had a 33% increase in the value of my portfolio.

That's with the investments from my low income.

Does that mean your wealth no longer doubles when you fill your gas tank on credit?

Family Dollar will miss you.

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

I can screen shot that if you really want to see it.

Living within your means, is just that. Debt is a function of over spending, not a function of how much you make. Michael Jackson was on the verge of bankruptcy when he died, after having earned by most estimates, over a billion dollars in his life.

Being smart with money is how you end up wealthy. That's why people bad with money stay poor, and people good with money end up rich.

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

Do you think he retired at 92? I'm guessing he lived a pretty good life for the last 30 years.
What difference does his dress make? Are you left-wingers really that shallow? You do know that most millionaires live modestly, right? That's a statistical fact. Most own late model domestic cars. Most live in average houses.

And of course it's not pointless, because in his death, I wager he likely passed on his wealth to his family, which is good and honorable. Not including his charitable giving. Proverbs 13:22 "A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."

You do know that the largest joy in people's lives generally speaking, to be able to help others. First in family of course, but also to the community.

I myself, also give to charities on a routine basis. I've also volunteered at charities as well. And I have helped people in need directly, as the opportunity comes.

Now this isn't a rah-rah-rah, I'm so great routine. I'm just a regular person. My point is, you seem to be implying that the only purpose of accumulating wealth, is so you can wear some flashy clothes or some other shallow purpose.

Well that's ridiculous, and you are going to end up being a very sad human being.

 

[Andylusion]

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You've just missed the point.

Specifically, how is this missing the point?

That's some very misleading math. If you read the BLS jobs reports, you'll discover that wages have risen more in the last three years than they did in the preceding 12 years.

You posted a cartoon of a lie. Why?

You describe an iconic cartoon classic depicting infamous dickhead Pullman literally "screwing" the workers as "a lie" and wonder what you're missing?
What was Mike G deliberately "missing" (misrepresenting, lying about)? The topic is about low wages remaining low,.. Currently "rising" or no.. Increasingly "the norm",.. Most likely since before you were born. Too low! Not sufficient to live as well as "The Greatest Generation" let alone "better than." Duh. Got two cars? In your own garage? Lucky, lucky you! Congratulations! You're far from "the norm" these days.
It's okay. I know. I know. You're so used to smearing lipstick on this pig you just can't help yourself. Take this to the bank: It won't be Trump who saves you from yourself..

You post...malarkey on a grand scale. That's all you have, isn't it?

Denigrating the Greatest Generation is something far beneath virtually anyone else, Democrat, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Republicans, or Conservatives...except for you. You must be proud. You don't even know what it means, do you?

For whatever, I live alone, have a 4-car garage with 2 cars and my custom Harley. One car is another toy, my '66 GTO I've owned since 1969.

Your personal possessions are not really relevant. It was a rhetorical reference to drive home the point which unfortunately still appears beyond your ability to comprehend. Nobody was "Denigrating the Greatest Generation", you idiot. Quite the contrary. They implemented the New Deal reforms enabling you to buy those nice toys because they strongly felt that your life should be easier and better than theirs. Trump's daddy felt the same for little Donny. Such priorities are long gone now. Instead we've allowed ourselves to be diminished and infected with corporate greed. Left having to hope the ******* billionaires do something right once in a while..

Whose fault is that? If you have become so pathetic, that you are waiting around for billionaires to fix your life, that's on you. That is your fault. You are to blame. No one can fix your life, but you, and if you are sitting around being worthless, waiting for someone else to fix your life... then you have condemned yourself to failure.

That is 100% on you.

 

[Grumblenuts]

LOL, Whoosh! The house moron can always be counted upon to interpret everything upside down and ass backwards.

We are stardust. We are golden...

HAHA.. Just noticed this gem:

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

Been debt free far longer, twinkle toes. Credit score much higher, IIRC. You presume to lecture hippies on the basics of materialism.. What a dope!

 

[healthmyths]

Welcome to the bogus economy and TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome fueled by burgeoning debt and stoked by the First Loser.

You have to respect Donald Trump for being astute enough to recognize that the poorly-educated are a majority in US society and going after them.

Donald Trump is inflating the expectations of his howling mob by making promises he doesn't intend to keep and can't keep.

US debt has increased by $10,000 per worker during Trump's tenure while "53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year" and have traveled backward. If Trump's debt trajectory continues, the 53 million Americans will soon have a net negative value as the debt balloons to stratospheric values.

The Donald Trump trajectory portends a horrendous recession which will make Lebanon and Zimbabwe look like desirable economic models.

Good jobs are rising slower than the population which means more and more Americans are doomed to TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome.

Trump and his sycophantic associates still don't understand that the economy and job quality has not recovered from the Bush depression that caused many new graduates to lose the opportunity to establish a career in a chosen profession and many had to settle for low-quality low pay jobs. Many of these unfortunate people have not recovered from this setback and won't under Trump's leadership.

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal - Legal Reader

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal
DAWN ALLEN — January 27, 2020

Low-wage workers make up nearly half of the American workforce, and many of them are the sole breadwinners for their families.

Last November, the Brookings Institution released a study concluding that nearly half of working age Americans are employed in low-wage jobs. They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year.

The fact that 44% of the American workforce now finds itself in such a precarious economic situation might come as a surprise to those who imagine low-wage work to be the domain of teenagers, college students, the newly-hired, or those taking on side gigs for extra cash. Instead, these jobs are the main way that many people support their families, especially in smaller cities in the southern and western regions of the United States. 26% of low-wage earners are the sole breadwinners for their household, and another 25% live in households where all earners work in low-paying jobs.

Perhaps the most obvious solution to improving conditions for these workers is to provide education, retraining, and skill upgrades so that they qualify for better jobs. Indeed, 40% of low-wage workers between the ages of 25-64 have, at most, a high school diploma, while another 13% are young people without degrees who are not in school. That means, however, that nearly half of the workers in low-paying jobs already have higher levels of educational attainment.

Simply getting more education won’t cause jobs to magically appear, either. The Occupy movement was full of college-educated people who couldn’t find sufficient jobs to pay back crushing student debt. Perhaps it’s true that “they should have gotten STEM degrees,” (and not those pesky Women’s Studies or sociology majors) as those on the Libertarian/Conservative spectrum self-righteously preached in 2011, but remember how that sentiment morphed into right-wing trolls mocking laid-off “elite” journalists with the condescending mantra of “better learn to code, then” by 2019? (Besides, if everyone learned to code, it would become just another low-wage job.)

Once again... TAKING statements out of CONTEXT!!!
You wrote: "They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year."
And that is true...
44% of Americans age 18 to 64 are low-wage workers, according to a Brookings Institution report (copy)
BUT dummy! What about the other 56% dummy?
IDIOT!!! How many of the 18 to 64 are:
The Average Salary 20-24 (only 9,740,000)
Employed and unemployed full- and part-time workers by age, sex, race, and Hispanic or Latino ethnicity
Earnings increase beginning in one’s 20s, an age group that includes some new college graduates. The median salary of 20- to 24-year-olds is $616 per week, which translates to $32,032 per year.
Many Americans start out their careers in their 20s and don’t earn as much as they will once they reach their 30s.

The Average Salary 25-34
For Americans ages 25 to 34, the median salary is $876 per week, or $45,552 per year. That’s a big jump from the median salary for 20- to 24-year-olds. As a general rule, earnings tend to rise in your 20s and 30s as you start to climb up the ladder. Also, this set includes many people who received professional degrees from graduate schools, further bringing up salaries.

The Average Salary 35-44
The median salary of 35- to 44-year olds is $1,047 per week, or $54,444 per year. That said, the number conceals considerable variation by gender. For example, male 35- to 44-year-olds earn a median salary of $1,162 per week while women in the same age bracket earn a median $923 per week.
The Average Salary 45-54
Earnings start to level out in your 40s. The median salary of 45- to 54-year-olds is $1,039 per week, or $54,028 per year

The Average Salary 65 and Older
Americans aged 65 and older earn an average of $942 per week, or $48,984 per year.
The Average Salary by Age for Americans - SmartAsset
So dummy... Where do you get the dumb ass comment that age 18 to 64 make less than $18,000?
AGAIN unless you get into the details wild ass dumb claims such as yours are believed by the people like you with attention spans of less than 30 seconds!

 

[Denizen]

Does that mean your wealth no longer doubles when you fill your gas tank on credit?

Family Dollar will miss you.

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

I can screen shot that if you really want to see it.

Living within your means, is just that. Debt is a function of over spending, not a function of how much you make. Michael Jackson was on the verge of bankruptcy when he died, after having earned by most estimates, over a billion dollars in his life.

Being smart with money is how you end up wealthy. That's why people bad with money stay poor, and people good with money end up rich.

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

Do you think he retired at 92? I'm guessing he lived a pretty good life for the last 30 years.
What difference does his dress make? Are you left-wingers really that shallow? You do know that most millionaires live modestly, right? That's a statistical fact. Most own late model domestic cars. Most live in average houses.

And of course it's not pointless, because in his death, I wager he likely passed on his wealth to his family, which is good and honorable. Not including his charitable giving. Proverbs 13:22 "A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."

You do know that the largest joy in people's lives generally speaking, to be able to help others. First in family of course, but also to the community.

I myself, also give to charities on a routine basis. I've also volunteered at charities as well. And I have helped people in need directly, as the opportunity comes.

Now this isn't a rah-rah-rah, I'm so great routine. I'm just a regular person. My point is, you seem to be implying that the only purpose of accumulating wealth, is so you can wear some flashy clothes or some other shallow purpose.

Well that's ridiculous, and you are going to end up being a very sad human being.

Wrong on all counts. His friends and relatives were unaware he was wealthy which means he did not spread his wealth around to any evident extent.

It was a pointless accumulation of wealth and he couldn't take it with him.

 

[Denizen]

Welcome to the bogus economy and TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome fueled by burgeoning debt and stoked by the First Loser.

You have to respect Donald Trump for being astute enough to recognize that the poorly-educated are a majority in US society and going after them.

Donald Trump is inflating the expectations of his howling mob by making promises he doesn't intend to keep and can't keep.

US debt has increased by $10,000 per worker during Trump's tenure while "53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year" and have traveled backward. If Trump's debt trajectory continues, the 53 million Americans will soon have a net negative value as the debt balloons to stratospheric values.

The Donald Trump trajectory portends a horrendous recession which will make Lebanon and Zimbabwe look like desirable economic models.

Good jobs are rising slower than the population which means more and more Americans are doomed to TSLS, Trump Shit Life Syndrome.

Trump and his sycophantic associates still don't understand that the economy and job quality has not recovered from the Bush depression that caused many new graduates to lose the opportunity to establish a career in a chosen profession and many had to settle for low-quality low pay jobs. Many of these unfortunate people have not recovered from this setback and won't under Trump's leadership.

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal - Legal Reader

Low-Wage Jobs are the New American Normal
DAWN ALLEN — January 27, 2020

Low-wage workers make up nearly half of the American workforce, and many of them are the sole breadwinners for their families.

Last November, the Brookings Institution released a study concluding that nearly half of working age Americans are employed in low-wage jobs. They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year.

The fact that 44% of the American workforce now finds itself in such a precarious economic situation might come as a surprise to those who imagine low-wage work to be the domain of teenagers, college students, the newly-hired, or those taking on side gigs for extra cash. Instead, these jobs are the main way that many people support their families, especially in smaller cities in the southern and western regions of the United States. 26% of low-wage earners are the sole breadwinners for their household, and another 25% live in households where all earners work in low-paying jobs.

Perhaps the most obvious solution to improving conditions for these workers is to provide education, retraining, and skill upgrades so that they qualify for better jobs. Indeed, 40% of low-wage workers between the ages of 25-64 have, at most, a high school diploma, while another 13% are young people without degrees who are not in school. That means, however, that nearly half of the workers in low-paying jobs already have higher levels of educational attainment.

Simply getting more education won’t cause jobs to magically appear, either. The Occupy movement was full of college-educated people who couldn’t find sufficient jobs to pay back crushing student debt. Perhaps it’s true that “they should have gotten STEM degrees,” (and not those pesky Women’s Studies or sociology majors) as those on the Libertarian/Conservative spectrum self-righteously preached in 2011, but remember how that sentiment morphed into right-wing trolls mocking laid-off “elite” journalists with the condescending mantra of “better learn to code, then” by 2019? (Besides, if everyone learned to code, it would become just another low-wage job.)

Once again... TAKING statements out of CONTEXT!!!
You wrote: "They found that 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 64 earned a median wage of $10.22 per hour, or $18,000 per year."
And that is true...
44% of Americans age 18 to 64 are low-wage workers, according to a Brookings Institution report (copy)
BUT dummy! What about the other 56% dummy?
IDIOT!!! How many of the 18 to 64 are:
The Average Salary 20-24 (only 9,740,000)
Employed and unemployed full- and part-time workers by age, sex, race, and Hispanic or Latino ethnicity
Earnings increase beginning in one’s 20s, an age group that includes some new college graduates. The median salary of 20- to 24-year-olds is $616 per week, which translates to $32,032 per year.
Many Americans start out their careers in their 20s and don’t earn as much as they will once they reach their 30s.

The Average Salary 25-34
For Americans ages 25 to 34, the median salary is $876 per week, or $45,552 per year. That’s a big jump from the median salary for 20- to 24-year-olds. As a general rule, earnings tend to rise in your 20s and 30s as you start to climb up the ladder. Also, this set includes many people who received professional degrees from graduate schools, further bringing up salaries.

The Average Salary 35-44
The median salary of 35- to 44-year olds is $1,047 per week, or $54,444 per year. That said, the number conceals considerable variation by gender. For example, male 35- to 44-year-olds earn a median salary of $1,162 per week while women in the same age bracket earn a median $923 per week.
The Average Salary 45-54
Earnings start to level out in your 40s. The median salary of 45- to 54-year-olds is $1,039 per week, or $54,028 per year

The Average Salary 65 and Older
Americans aged 65 and older earn an average of $942 per week, or $48,984 per year.
The Average Salary by Age for Americans - SmartAsset
So dummy... Where do you get the dumb ass comment that age 18 to 64 make less than $18,000?
AGAIN unless you get into the details wild ass dumb claims such as yours are believed by the people like you with attention spans of less than 30 seconds!

You are bombing the thread with dross because you are unable to analyze and comment concisely and pertinently.

Teleworking is likely to accelerate the trend to low-pay, low-quality jobs.

The work environment is changing and buffoons like Donald Trump will be the last to know.

 

[Andylusion]

I have zero debt, or credit cards, or loans of any kind. I haven't had any since 2008, when I paid off my last debt. If I were to screen shot my credit score, it would say I have a 720 score, zero outstanding balances, and zero loans, and zero open accounts.

I can screen shot that if you really want to see it.

Living within your means, is just that. Debt is a function of over spending, not a function of how much you make. Michael Jackson was on the verge of bankruptcy when he died, after having earned by most estimates, over a billion dollars in his life.

Being smart with money is how you end up wealthy. That's why people bad with money stay poor, and people good with money end up rich.

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

Do you think he retired at 92? I'm guessing he lived a pretty good life for the last 30 years.
What difference does his dress make? Are you left-wingers really that shallow? You do know that most millionaires live modestly, right? That's a statistical fact. Most own late model domestic cars. Most live in average houses.

And of course it's not pointless, because in his death, I wager he likely passed on his wealth to his family, which is good and honorable. Not including his charitable giving. Proverbs 13:22 "A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."

You do know that the largest joy in people's lives generally speaking, to be able to help others. First in family of course, but also to the community.

I myself, also give to charities on a routine basis. I've also volunteered at charities as well. And I have helped people in need directly, as the opportunity comes.

Now this isn't a rah-rah-rah, I'm so great routine. I'm just a regular person. My point is, you seem to be implying that the only purpose of accumulating wealth, is so you can wear some flashy clothes or some other shallow purpose.

Well that's ridiculous, and you are going to end up being a very sad human being.

Wrong on all counts. His friends and relatives were unaware he was wealthy which means he did not spread his wealth around to any evident extent.

It was a pointless accumulation of wealth and he couldn't take it with him.

Most people are unaware until they get old and retire. I never knew how much money my parents had, until they were in their 70s. And I can virtually guarantee that no one knows how much money I have saved up.

You seem to have this weird idea of wealth, like it only matters if you flaunt it like some Hollywood left-wing bimbo.

 

[Denizen]

What's the point of being wealthy if you choose to live like a pauper. It is the accumulation of money for money's sake.

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

Do you think he retired at 92? I'm guessing he lived a pretty good life for the last 30 years.
What difference does his dress make? Are you left-wingers really that shallow? You do know that most millionaires live modestly, right? That's a statistical fact. Most own late model domestic cars. Most live in average houses.

And of course it's not pointless, because in his death, I wager he likely passed on his wealth to his family, which is good and honorable. Not including his charitable giving. Proverbs 13:22 "A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."

You do know that the largest joy in people's lives generally speaking, to be able to help others. First in family of course, but also to the community.

I myself, also give to charities on a routine basis. I've also volunteered at charities as well. And I have helped people in need directly, as the opportunity comes.

Now this isn't a rah-rah-rah, I'm so great routine. I'm just a regular person. My point is, you seem to be implying that the only purpose of accumulating wealth, is so you can wear some flashy clothes or some other shallow purpose.

Well that's ridiculous, and you are going to end up being a very sad human being.

Wrong on all counts. His friends and relatives were unaware he was wealthy which means he did not spread his wealth around to any evident extent.

It was a pointless accumulation of wealth and he couldn't take it with him.

Most people are unaware until they get old and retire. I never knew how much money my parents had, until they were in their 70s. And I can virtually guarantee that no one knows how much money I have saved up.

You seem to have this weird idea of wealth, like it only matters if you flaunt it like some Hollywood left-wing bimbo.

You mean like wearing expensive jeans with holes in them?

 

[Andylusion]

... He's not living like a pauper today... that's for sure.

That's because he is not living. "he died at age 92". He certainly dressed like a pauper.

It appeared to be a pointless accumulation of wealth.

Do you think he retired at 92? I'm guessing he lived a pretty good life for the last 30 years.
What difference does his dress make? Are you left-wingers really that shallow? You do know that most millionaires live modestly, right? That's a statistical fact. Most own late model domestic cars. Most live in average houses.

And of course it's not pointless, because in his death, I wager he likely passed on his wealth to his family, which is good and honorable. Not including his charitable giving. Proverbs 13:22 "A good person leaves an inheritance for their children's children, but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous."

You do know that the largest joy in people's lives generally speaking, to be able to help others. First in family of course, but also to the community.

I myself, also give to charities on a routine basis. I've also volunteered at charities as well. And I have helped people in need directly, as the opportunity comes.

Now this isn't a rah-rah-rah, I'm so great routine. I'm just a regular person. My point is, you seem to be implying that the only purpose of accumulating wealth, is so you can wear some flashy clothes or some other shallow purpose.

Well that's ridiculous, and you are going to end up being a very sad human being.

Wrong on all counts. His friends and relatives were unaware he was wealthy which means he did not spread his wealth around to any evident extent.

It was a pointless accumulation of wealth and he couldn't take it with him.

Most people are unaware until they get old and retire. I never knew how much money my parents had, until they were in their 70s. And I can virtually guarantee that no one knows how much money I have saved up.

You seem to have this weird idea of wealth, like it only matters if you flaunt it like some Hollywood left-wing bimbo.

You mean like wearing expensive jeans with holes in them?

You just complained in a previous post this janitor that wisely saved up and invested his money... didn't 'look' like his was rich. Now you are trying to mock it? Doesn't that mean you are mocking yourself?