Texas opens 100% -- NO MASKS -- NO MANDATES

[Ray From Cleveland]

Because they are AMERICANS, and obviously YOU and the GOPQ are not!

We on the right are way more American than you are. We believe in our Constitution. We believe in law and order. We object to anything socialism or communism. We have the highest respect for our police and military. We have the highest respect for the symbol of our country which is the American flag.

You on the left are the exact opposite of us. All you people talk about is how wonderful it is in other countries, mostly socialists themselves. Furthermore trying to change this country into one of them.

 

[edthecynic]

Actual Covid-19 case count could be 6 to 24 times higher than official estimates, CDC study shows

Antibody testing reveals that more people have been infected with Covid-19 than confirmed testing shows, though most Americans are still vulnerable.

www.statnews.com

If you weren't stupid you would not be anything.

your link claims that 24 times the 30 million already infected, 720 million Americans, leaves most Americans vulnerable.
You are too STUPID to know just how STUPID you really are!!!!!

 

[Fueri]

I wonder what the loonie Covid Hermits will dub this.

Georgia was committing human sacrifice, Florida was going to be the Killing Fields for opening beaches.

I imagine Texas will be dubbed The World's Largest Slaughterhouse or something similarly ridiculous for refusing to continue to hide under their beds.

 

[edthecynic]

We on the right are way more American than you are. We believe in our Constitution. We believe in law and order. We object to anything socialism or communism. We have the highest respect for our police and military. We have the highest respect for the symbol of our country which is the American flag.

You LIE about what you "believe."

 

[Lastamender]

All .03% of them.

You are off by a factor of 100, no surprise there Trunptards can't do simple arithmetic.

99.7% survive Covid. Is that better?

Still a lie, as you well know

Then the CDC is lying. Why should they be any different than any other government agency?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actual Covid-19 case count could be 6 to 24 times higher than official estimates, CDC study shows

Antibody testing reveals that more people have been infected with Covid-19 than confirmed testing shows, though most Americans are still vulnerable.

www.statnews.com

If you weren't stupid you would not be anything.

your link claims that 24 times the 30 million already infected, 720 million Americans, leaves most Americans vulnerable.
You are too STUPID to know just how STUPID you really are!!!!!

At the time so just extrapolate. We don't know how many are truly infected but its at least 6x as that is bottom of the range what you posted. Smarter than you. But then who isn't.

 

[edthecynic]

All .03% of them.

You are off by a factor of 100, no surprise there Trunptards can't do simple arithmetic.

99.7% survive Covid. Is that better?

Still a lie, as you well know

Then the CDC is lying. Why should they be any different than any other government agency?

The CDC headed by Tramp appointee Robert Redfield, so of course they were lying, Tramp would NEVER appoint anyone who dared tell the truth.

 

[Claudette]

You watch, Biden will order a lockdown now of Florida and Texas

He can order, but will he send in the military if i refuse his order?

Nope. He can't tell any State what they can or can't do. That's up the Governor and legislature of that State.

The stuttering fuck has no power over any State unless he declares martial law. Which he won't do.

 

[edthecynic]

Actual Covid-19 case count could be 6 to 24 times higher than official estimates, CDC study shows

Antibody testing reveals that more people have been infected with Covid-19 than confirmed testing shows, though most Americans are still vulnerable.

www.statnews.com

If you weren't stupid you would not be anything.

your link claims that 24 times the 30 million already infected, 720 million Americans, leaves most Americans vulnerable.
You are too STUPID to know just how STUPID you really are!!!!!

At the time so just extrapolate. We don't know how many are truly infected but its at least 6x as that is bottom of the range what you posted. Smarter than you. But then who isn't.

I didn't post those numbers YOU did. You are too STUPID to even know what you posted.
Here is a quote from your link: "Still, the data reflect what CDC Director Robert Redfield recently said — that true case numbers are 10 times higher than confirmed diagnoses."
So even using the 10X bullshit, that is still 300 million Americans infected putting us at herd immunity, or as idiot Tramp calls it "herd mentality."
Only YOU would be STUPID enough to believe we are at herd immunity right now.

 

[westwall]

Well I just went and got a haircut and everyone had masks *shrug*

And that's fine. It's THEIR choice.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actual Covid-19 case count could be 6 to 24 times higher than official estimates, CDC study shows

Antibody testing reveals that more people have been infected with Covid-19 than confirmed testing shows, though most Americans are still vulnerable.

www.statnews.com

If you weren't stupid you would not be anything.

your link claims that 24 times the 30 million already infected, 720 million Americans, leaves most Americans vulnerable.
You are too STUPID to know just how STUPID you really are!!!!!

At the time so just extrapolate. We don't know how many are truly infected but its at least 6x as that is bottom of the range what you posted. Smarter than you. But then who isn't.

I didn't post those numbers YOU did. You are too STUPID to even know what you posted.
Here is a quote from your link: "Still, the data reflect what CDC Director Robert Redfield recently said — that true case numbers are 10 times higher than confirmed diagnoses."
So even using the 10X bullshit, that is still 300 million Americans infected putting us at herd immunity, or as idiot Tramp calls it "herd mentality."
Only YOU would be STUPID enough to believe we are at herd immunity right now.

CDC did and yes we are almost there....see how state are reopening and such? LOL

 

[edthecynic]

yes we are almost there

BULLSHIT!

 

[Markle]

Pure lying BULLSHIT!
the CRA only gave loans to QUALIFIED borrowers. But to racist scum like you, no minority is ever qualified for a loan.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

yes we are almost there

BULLSHIT!

Coward

 

[Markle]

Are the Clintons the real housing crash villains?

Before Hillary rewrites history, let's look at how the Clintons contributed to the Great Recession, write Larry Kudlow and Stephen Moore.

www.cnbc.com

Don't complain about the source either. It's one of your very own.

Larry Kudblow and Stephen Moore are hardly one of my own, you worthless lying scum POS! They are Tromp NAZIS all the way!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

At the time so just extrapolate. We don't know how many are truly infected but its at least 6x as that is bottom of the range what you posted. Smarter than you. But then who isn't.

I don't think we will actually know what the number is no matter who reports it. I've known people that had it and if not told, never would have known the difference. On the other hand, they are counting just about any death as a Covid death, even if you die from injuries of a serious traffic accident you had earlier in the day.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You LIE about what you "believe."

What lie is that?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

At the time so just extrapolate. We don't know how many are truly infected but its at least 6x as that is bottom of the range what you posted. Smarter than you. But then who isn't.

I don't think we will actually know what the number is no matter who reports it. I've known people that had it and if not told, never would have known the difference. On the other hand, they are counting just about any death as a Covid death, even if you die from injuries of a serious traffic accident you had earlier in the day.

Yep but people agree it’s around 1% maybe less. Definitely not 3%

 

[Markle]

Really?

Why didn't you mention the opinion piece was by Lawrence Kudlow and Stephen Moore, chief economist at the Heritage Foundation?

If you have a problem with his reporting, then refute it. You leftists always do the same thing over and over again: attack the source instead of the substance. So are you saying that NBC doesn't fact check the articles they publish?

It wasn't an article it was an opinion piece.

Commentary by Larry Kudlow, a senior contributor at CNBC and economics editor of the National Review. Follow him on Twitter @Larry_Kudlow.

Stephen Moore is chief economist at the Heritage Foundation

COMMENTARY isn't an article....................unless it's by FOX, then it's fact.

So, naturally wing nuts blame Clinton and Carter for the mortgage crisis of 2008, it just took a decade to materialize, RIIIIIGGGHHHTT.

They ignore what Bush did.

The signing of the American Dream Down Payment Act

I am here today because we are taking action to bring many thousands of Americans closer to owning a home. Our government is supporting homeownership because it is good for America, it is good for our families, it is good for our economy.

One of the biggest hurdles to homeownership is getting money for a down payment. This administration has recognized that, and so today I'm honored to be here to sign a law that will help many low-income buyers to overcome that hurdle, and to achieve an important part of the American Dream.


The rate of homeownership in America now stands a record high of 68.4 percent. Yet there is room for improvement. The rate of homeownership amongst minorities is below 50 percent. And that's not right, and this country needs to do something about it. We need to -- (applause.) We need to close the minority homeownership gap in America so more citizens have the satisfaction and mobility that comes from owning your own home, from owning a piece of the future of America.

Last year I set a goal to add 5.5 million new minority homeowners in America by the end of the decade. That is an attainable goal; that is an essential goal. And we're making progress toward that goal. In the past 18 months, more than 1 million minority families have become homeowners. (Applause.) And there's more that we can do to achieve the goal. The law I sign today will help us build on this progress in a very practical way.

Many people are able to afford a monthly mortgage payment, but are unable to make the down payment. So this legislation will authorize $200 million per year in down payment assistance to at least 40,000 low-income families. These funds will help American families achieve their goals, and at the same time, strengthen our communities.


Second, we need to make the home-buying process more affordable. Some of the biggest up-front costs in a home purchase are the closing costs. Sometimes they catch you by surprise. (Laughter.) Many home buyers do not have the time to shop around looking for a better deal on closing costs. You're kind of stuck with what you're presented with. And so they end up paying more than they should. So we've proposed new rules to make it easier for buyers to shop around and to compare prices on closing costs, so they can get the best deal and the best service possible.

And thirdly, we want to make buying a home simpler. Many first-time buyers look at the paperwork from a loan application, and frankly, get a little nervous about all the fine print. Those forms can be intimidating to the first-time home buyer. They can be intimidating to the second or third-time home buyer, too. (Laughter and applause.) So this administration has proposed new rules to simplify the forms home buyers and homeowners fill out when they apply for a loan or close on a mortgage.
georgewbush-whithouse.archives.gov>news

That and wing nuts repealing the Glass-Steagall act, that deregulated some regulations on banks, namely allowing banks or mortgage to sell their mortgages to wall street.

I fully realize that this is a worthless effort on my part since it is obvious that your mind is made up and you will not allow a scintilla of truth to enter your closed mind.

Regardless, just to prove you 100% wrong, here are the facts for you to assail.

HUD TO FIGHT DISCRIMINATION, BOOST MINORITY HOMEOWNERSHIP AND WORK WITH URBAN LEAGUE TO FURTHER GOALS
HUD Archives: Cuomo agrees w/Nat'l Urban League -- to Fight Housing Discrimination

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New York Times - 1999
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending -
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending (Published 1999)

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August 5, 1997
President Bush’s and the Administrations Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs – Fannie and Freddie dating back to 2001
Just the Facts: The Administration’s Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs

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By Elliot Blair Smith,
USA TODAY
Fannie Mae to pay $400 million fine
Bloomberg Politics - Bloomberg

Franklin Raines was Director of the Office of Management and Budget under Clinton and returned to Fannie Mae as its CEO in 1999. Raines is not a “chief” economic adviser for President Barack Hussein Obama but has advised the administration on mortgage and housing matters. Obama had hired another former Fannie CEO, Jim Johnson as a member of Obama’s V.P. search committee and who was forced to quit under fire.

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Bloomberg News -
How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis -
Bloomberg Politics - Bloomberg

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Democrats in their own words covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac


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Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Democrats of Financial Crisis


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From the New York Times
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: September 11, 2003 WASHINGTON,

Sept. 10— The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

Read more:

New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (Published 2003)

Bush administration proposes new agency be created within Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, House Financial Services Committee hearing; new agency would have authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of two capital-reserve requirements for...

www.nytimes.com

[…]

From USNews and World Report
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle
By Sam Dealey
September 10, 2008

[…]

So five years ago, there was one of those rare moments in Washington when the branches and personalities of government—in this case, the Bush administration—are less interested in protecting or expanding their turf than in fixing a looming catastrophe. What was Frank's response to the proposal?

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle

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Wall Street Journal Barney’s Rubble – September 17, 2008

Barney's Rubble - WSJ

online.wsj.com

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Barney Frank in 2005: What Housing Bubble?


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Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...rats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac

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The Bet That Blew Up Wall Street

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All this, in addition to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act by President William Jefferson Clinton caused the meltdown.

It COULD have been stopped or greatly reduced. Democrats fought that every step of the way and the Republicans wilted under the barrage of being called racist and worse.

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Duplicate of “Administrations unheeded warnings at another, maybe less credible site.

President Bush numerous calls for review on Fannie and Freddie dating back to 2001

The White House Warned Congress About Fannie Mae Freddie Mac 17 Times In 2008, Alone

The White House attempts to set the record straight: (I’m copying this post from the White House webpage in it’s entirety because I want people to read the whole thing). For many years …

nicedeb.wordpress.com

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The 60 minute program on Credit Default Swaps

The Bet That Blew Up Wall Street

Steve Kroft On Credit Default Swaps And Their Central Role In The Unfolding Economic Crisis

www.cbsnews.com

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President Bush numerous calls for review on Fannie and Freddie dating back to 2001

The White House Warned Congress About Fannie Mae Freddie Mac 17 Times In 2008, Alone

The White House attempts to set the record straight: (I’m copying this post from the White House webpage in it’s entirety because I want people to read the whole thing). For many years …

nicedeb.wordpress.com

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From the NY Times New Agency Proposed to Oversee FANNIE MAE
September 11, 2003

New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (Published 2003)

Bush administration proposes new agency be created within Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, House Financial Services Committee hearing; new agency would have authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of two capital-reserve requirements for...

www.nytimes.com

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3/9/2017

Just to remind all our FRIENDS from the far left, the responsibility for this mess lies with Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. AND WITH REPUBLICANS for backing off every time Barney Frank and his cronies played…THE RACE CARD! The housing bubble is what led to the downfall and that was driven by Democrats, starting with Jimmy Carter and hugely expanded by Bill Clinton. Here are the facts, once again, for you to ignore….

HUD TO FIGHT DISCRIMINATION, BOOST MINORITY HOMEOWNERSHIP AND WORK WITH URBAN LEAGUE TO FURTHER GOALS
August 5, 1997

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/HUD+to+Fight+Discrimination,+Boost+Minority+Homeownership+and+Work...-a019650647

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New York Times - 1999
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending -

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending (Published 1999)

President Bush’s and the Administrations Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs – Fannie and Freddie dating back to 2001

Just the Facts: The Administration’s Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs

For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward th…

swampie.wordpress.com

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By Elliot Blair Smith,
USA TODAY
Fannie Mae to pay $400 million fine

Bloomberg Politics - Bloomberg

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Franklin Raines was Director of the Office of Management and Budget under Clinton and returned to Fannie Mae as its CEO in 1999. Raines is not a “chief” economic adviser for President Barack Hussein Obama but has advised the administration on mortgage and housing matters. Obama had hired another former Fannie CEO, Jim Johnson as a member of Obama’s V.P. search committee and who was forced to quit under fire.

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All out of context LIES.
Thank you.

I must have missed your reliable sources and working links proving your childish response. Oh, that's right, YOU GOT NOTHIN'!

"Beginning in 1992 Congress pushed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase purchases of mortgages going to low to moderate income people. In 1996 HUD gave Fannie and Freddie an explicit target: 42% of their mortgage financing had to go to borrowers with incomes below the median. This target was increased to 50% in 2000 and 52% in 2005. In 1996 HUD required that 12% of all mortgages purchased by Freddie and Fannie had to be “special affordable” loans, meaning loans to borrowers with income less than 60% of their area’s median. The 12% dictum was increased to 20% in 2000 and 22% in 2005."

How Government Stoked the Mania

When those targets were changed, that also changed the guidelines and goals of the private market as well. Making sub-prime loans and selling them was more profitable than complying loans.

 

[Markle]

Well I just went and got a haircut and everyone had masks *shrug*

I got a haircut a few weeks ago and no one had masks. I was glad!