Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

In the vegetative state, patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles

This is being brain dead, you stupid jackasses!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

I'm still not seeing flat liners addressed, only brain damage. She was a flat liner.

No, she wasn't a flat liner. You have no idea what that is.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It would have harmed nobody to let the parents take her home and let her die naturally. She was not in pain or suffering while her feeding tube was in.

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The body may have responded but their was no brain to process it. If the nerves can't make it to the brain or the brain can't process the signals, no pain.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I've never seen the Pro Death Left willingly display medical ignorance like they are here. The facts are being presented and they're sticking to their ignorance.

It's why I believe and always will believe conservatives are more intelligent, more educated, and more open minded than Leftists will ever be.

 

[ChrisL]

It would have harmed nobody to let the parents take her home and let her die naturally. She was not in pain or suffering while her feeding tube was in.

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It would have harmed nobody to let the parents take her home and let her die naturally. She was not in pain or suffering while her feeding tube was in.

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

 

[Dana7360]

Exactly.

When she turned 18 the parents stopped having any say in her life.

When she got married her parents stopping having any rights to custody.

Terri's husband would have had to die first, then her parents would have been the next of kin to take custody of her.

But hey, right wing extremists don't believe they have to follow our laws.

No matter how much factual evidence you present to these people you will never get them to see the truth.

They just prefer to call people murders, abusers and bash anyone who is not a far right wing extremist.

Too bad the husband wasn't more sympathetic to the parents' position. Anyone who is a parent would understand and feel for those parents. I think he is a rotten excuse for a human being.

I am a parent and I understand what they went through.

I've had to watch as my grandmother was only given air as she laid dying. We had no say in anything because she had a living will. So we had to let her suffer until she died. I will have to do the same with my mom in a few years. Her living will says only air. And even if she didn't have one, all of us in my family would still only give her air and not hook her up to any machines or do anything to prevent her from being laid to rest. We would do that because like Michael, we've been told by her that is what she would want.

My husband faced something like this with me in 2009. I was in a coma, I had a living will but it was 3000 miles away in our safe in our home. So he had to make all the decisions for me while I was in that coma. And yes, the doctors asked him for that living will. They didn't think I was going to wake up.

If I had not woken up, he would have pulled all the plugs to all the machines I was hooked up to and it would have been the exact thing I would have wanted him to do.

The problem was that the parents couldn't let go. Terri was dead. The fact that her brain had liquified proves that. The brain doesn't revert to that state in a living person.

The only reason she still had a beating heart was because of modern technology. If the technology wasn't available at the time, Terri Schaivo would have been pronounced dead when she was first taken to the hospital and then property laid to rest after.

No parent wants their child to die before them. Everyone understands that. However there's a time to let go. The parents couldn't let go. They put their son in law and our nation through hell because they couldn't let go.

I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm glad to see that you are okay. The fact is though, it wouldn't have harmed anyone to let the parents take her home and care for her until she died naturally. In her condition, it wouldn't have been that long before she passed on naturally.

If she had a living will, then I would have no problem with this. I still think he was cruel to her parents.

So the fact that a judge not once but twice sided with Michael on custody of her doesn't matter to you?

Thank you, I'm alive today but have to deal with the injuries from what put me in that coma for the rest of my life.

Which I can't complain about. If I had not been in that surfing accident I would have died from breast cancer.

So a 15ft wave that I thought nearly killed me, turned out to have saved my life.

The damage done to to my spine couldn't be fixed with surgery on my spine. So I had my breasts reduced to take the pressure off my spine. The tissue that was removed had carcinoma in it. Both breasts. A person usually gets 3 years of life when diagnosed with the type of breast cancer I had. I just passed the 4 year remission mark this month. I've got one more year to go and I can say I beat breast cancer. Something 4 of my relatives couldn't do.

The next time I worked with one of my clients, after the accident, I told her why I wasn't there the year before. She smiled and then said to me, "Cancer had a gift for me." Then walked away to perform her set on stage. As I walked away to go photograph her on stage, I wondered what gift that wave had for me. Six months later I found out. It was literally my life.

Sorry to hear about all of that. It's wonderful and a small miracle that you are with us today.

Thank you.

I don't know about a miracle but I believe everything happens for a reason. We just don't know that reason at the time.

I spent a year and a half hating and being very angry with that wave and the Mother Goddess. I went back to that beach a year later and screamed at the waves. I used vulgarities and flipped the waves a double finger as I ran into them. It was actually very freeing. I was finally directing my anger at what caused it all in the first place.

Then six months later I found out that a wave I hated and thought wanted to kill me, saved my life. I went back to that beach and apologized to the waves and the Mother Goddess. I thanked them for saving my life. The weird thing was that day the waves were way to big to get in the water. I stood there and thanked the Mother Goddess with all my heart. It was even more freeing that time than the time before.

The wave saved my life and spared me from having to go through the traditional way cancer is removed and fought. I didn't have to go through chemo or radiation. And I didn't have to go through it twice. Had the cancer been found the traditional way, I would have had to go through it twice. The cancer in my left breast was too small to find on a mammogram. The one in the right was big enough, more than big enough. So I would have had to go through it twice. The right side would have been found and the left side would have been found later when it got big enough to be found.

I go back to that beach every 6 months or so and talk with the lifeguards who saved my life. The first time I did that they were shocked to see me. They thought I had died. They told me that the accident was one of the worst they've seen. Which is why they thought I died. I have now turned into an example that they aren't wasting their time. Their work does save lives even though they pull dead people out and people who end up totally paralyzed. I'm an inspiration to them of how important their work is and that people can come back from a horrible wave accident. The second time I went back and talked to them I told them about the cancer and all of them were just floored. I told them that they saved my life not just once but twice.

 

[ChrisL]

It would have harmed nobody to let the parents take her home and let her die naturally. She was not in pain or suffering while her feeding tube was in.

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

Oh really? Is that why he was carrying on with another woman?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It would have harmed nobody to let the parents take her home and let her die naturally. She was not in pain or suffering while her feeding tube was in.

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

Oh really? Is that why he was carrying on with another woman?

After that much time? No worries, he waited longer than he probably should have, especially since they didn't have children. People die, even if we keep them alive for our sake not theirs, and moving on is what you do. He's not the bad guy, people like you are.

 

[ChrisL]

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

Oh really? Is that why he was carrying on with another woman?

After that much time? No worries, he waited longer than he probably should have, especially since they didn't have children. People die, even if we keep them alive for our sake not theirs, and moving on is what you do. He's not the bad guy, people like you are.

Nope. Her husband was greedy, selfish and heartless.

 

[thanatos144]

Liberals are all about killing thise that cant defend themselves or speak in thier defence

 

[BlueGin]

Your knowledge is wrong. Her parents and friends testified to that in court.

And yet these parents and friends didn't try to get control of her affairs away from him until AFTER the malpractice settlement.

They even let him live with them for a while when the malpractice was being litigated.

Before the settlement he was pretending he wanted to become a nurse and take care of her for the rest of his life.

 

[BlueGin]

I'm not sure what this has to do with Terri Schiavo's corpse being taken off life support, but...

snopes.com Mike Brown Beating Video


The footage seen here was originally posted to the Internet back in 2012, when Brown was just 16, under original title "only in Woodland City." The video was apparently taken at a large apartment complex in Dallas, Texas (a state in which Mike Brown never lived), called Woodland City Apartments:

I can understand your confusion. I'm sure they all look the same to you.

She wasn't a corpse, and she wasn't on life support. She was breathing on her own and her own heart was beating by itself.

Why do you Leftists have to lie about this? Can you ever stop lying?

Ever?

When the mind is gone, the person is dead even if the body lives on.

Not true. I know of one story in particular where a man was in a coma for 19 years and woke up. He was considered "brain dead."

These idiots are proudly displaying their ignorance throwing around terms like "brain dead" while not knowing what it actually means. A brain dead person is truly dead and cannot recover. They can't breath, pump their own blood, or do anything else. They're dead. That isn't PVS. I feel like I'm talking to raging morons here.

Right, a brain dead person cannot breathe on their own. They need a ventilator to breathe for them.

Yep. And Terri could. Why do you think they didn't want anyone to see her before they killed her?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

Oh really? Is that why he was carrying on with another woman?

After that much time? No worries, he waited longer than he probably should have, especially since they didn't have children. People die, even if we keep them alive for our sake not theirs, and moving on is what you do. He's not the bad guy, people like you are.

Nope. Her husband was greedy, selfish and heartless.

You're wrong. The selfish and heartless ones were those fighting to keep a dead woman alive.

 

[ChrisL]

She was not in pain because she was brain-dead.

She was not in pain or suffering when she died, either. Because she died a long time before that.

How do you know pain is not a physiological response like a heartbeat? Understanding pain clearly requires brainwaves, but I don't see how you state as fact she didn't feel it.

The idiot keeps saying "she had no brain waives" as if repetition turns error into fact.

A wakeful unconscious state that lasts longer than a few weeks is referred to as a persistent (or 'continuing') vegetative state

The vegetative state is a chronic or long-term condition. This condition differs from a coma: a coma is a state that lacks both awareness and wakefulness. Patients in a vegetative state may have awoken from a coma, but still have not regained awareness. In the vegetative state patients can open their eyelids occasionally and demonstrate sleep-wake cycles, but completely lack cognitive function. The vegetative state is also called a "coma vigil". The chances of regaining awareness diminish considerably as the time spent in the vegetative state increases.[8]

Persistent vegetative state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Get the facts, you murderous Leftists!

We know the facts, and we know why it was his call.

he wasn't even at her bedside when she died. He didn't give two shits about her. Bottom line, she was burden to him and he wanted to be rid of her and collect the life insurance policy.

What he wanted was his wife back. After that it was for her to be at peace, which she wasn't because people like you wanted her alive even though she was dead.

Oh really? Is that why he was carrying on with another woman?

After that much time? No worries, he waited longer than he probably should have, especially since they didn't have children. People die, even if we keep them alive for our sake not theirs, and moving on is what you do. He's not the bad guy, people like you are.

Nope. Her husband was greedy, selfish and heartless. [/QUOTE]
You're wrong. The selfish and heartless ones were those fighting to keep a dead woman alive.[/QUOTE]

She was not dead, as much as you would like to convince us that she was. Dead people don't respond to their family members. They don't respond at all. That was not the case with Terry. She was responsive.

 

[JoeB131]

Your knowledge is wrong. Her parents and friends testified to that in court.

And yet these parents and friends didn't try to get control of her affairs away from him until AFTER the malpractice settlement.

They even let him live with them for a while when the malpractice was being litigated.

Before the settlement he was pretending he wanted to become a nurse and take care of her for the rest of his life.

Wow, he must have been a hell of an actor, then?

 

[JoeB131]

She was not dead, as much as you would like to convince us that she was. Dead people don't respond to their family members. They don't respond at all. That was not the case with Terry. She was responsive.

There's no evidence she was responsive to anything. Just that if you take enough video of a brain dead person they might twitch when you said something after you edit it down.

 

[BlueGin]

Your knowledge is wrong. Her parents and friends testified to that in court.

And yet these parents and friends didn't try to get control of her affairs away from him until AFTER the malpractice settlement.

They even let him live with them for a while when the malpractice was being litigated.

Before the settlement he was pretending he wanted to become a nurse and take care of her for the rest of his life.

Wow, he must have been a hell of an actor, then?

You fell for it. Not that that's saying much.

 

[ChrisL]

She was not dead, as much as you would like to convince us that she was. Dead people don't respond to their family members. They don't respond at all. That was not the case with Terry. She was responsive.

There's no evidence she was responsive to anything. Just that if you take enough video of a brain dead person they might twitch when you said something after you edit it down.

Yes there is. Her parents amongst others witnessed her responses.

 

[tinydancer]

Michael scored really big on the malpractice suit. A million. But that wasn't good enough because Mikey only got $300,00 and the rest went for Terri's care.

Michael waged an unceasing war to legally murder his wife. No living will. Just his say so that Terri never wanted to be alive with artificial means.

And the courts rolled with it. Unfreaking real.