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I don't disagree that it's important to tell/teach children that they are what they are and no one can make them what they are not. But teaching children this isn't the schools job, it's the parents job.
As for not teaching anything about sex at all from K-8? Uh, no. Starting in 5th grade kids need to be taught the biology of what is happening to their bodies - or what will happen within the next few years. Between 5th and 8th grade nearly every female will have gone through puberty, with the boys close behind in their bodily changes. Puberty and the biological function/mechanics of sex should be taught, as well as sex leading to pregnancy. After all that's what sex is primarily for . . . to continue the species. Anything else referring to sex -- religious beliefs, homosexuality, kinky stuff -- simply doesn't belong in the class room. The school's job is to teach the basic biology, not to teach about sexuality. That's what parents are suppose to do.
Homosexuality is a biological fact. There WILL BE gay kids in those K-8th classes (as well as the CHILDREN of gay parents). Imagine a kid who is gay and who cannot talk to their parents about it. In a normal situation they could talk to a trusted teacher about it...but not in TN if this ridiculous law gets passed.
(It's only passed in the Senate. The House won't likely be picking it up until next year)
IF the House ends up passing this in the future and the Gov signs it, it will be immediately challenged as being unconstitutional.
I don't disagree that it's important to tell/teach children that they are what they are and no one can make them what they are not. But teaching children this isn't the schools job, it's the parents job.
As for not teaching anything about sex at all from K-8? Uh, no. Starting in 5th grade kids need to be taught the biology of what is happening to their bodies - or what will happen within the next few years. Between 5th and 8th grade nearly every female will have gone through puberty, with the boys close behind in their bodily changes. Puberty and the biological function/mechanics of sex should be taught, as well as sex leading to pregnancy. After all that's what sex is primarily for . . . to continue the species. Anything else referring to sex -- religious beliefs, homosexuality, kinky stuff -- simply doesn't belong in the class room. The school's job is to teach the basic biology, not to teach about sexuality. That's what parents are suppose to do.
Homosexuality is a biological fact. There WILL BE gay kids in those K-8th classes (as well as the CHILDREN of gay parents). Imagine a kid who is gay and who cannot talk to their parents about it. In a normal situation they could talk to a trusted teacher about it...but not in TN if this ridiculous law gets passed.
(It's only passed in the Senate. The House won't likely be picking it up until next year)
IF the House ends up passing this in the future and the Gov signs it, it will be immediately challenged as being unconstitutional.
Teaching perversion has no place in school.If you keep kids in the dark they will never know what "the ghey" is. It will help prevent homosexuality in Tennessee
I don't disagree that it's important to tell/teach children that they are what they are and no one can make them what they are not. But teaching children this isn't the schools job, it's the parents job.
As for not teaching anything about sex at all from K-8? Uh, no. Starting in 5th grade kids need to be taught the biology of what is happening to their bodies - or what will happen within the next few years. Between 5th and 8th grade nearly every female will have gone through puberty, with the boys close behind in their bodily changes. Puberty and the biological function/mechanics of sex should be taught, as well as sex leading to pregnancy. After all that's what sex is primarily for . . . to continue the species. Anything else referring to sex -- religious beliefs, homosexuality, kinky stuff -- simply doesn't belong in the class room. The school's job is to teach the basic biology, not to teach about sexuality. That's what parents are suppose to do.
Homosexuality is a biological fact. There WILL BE gay kids in those K-8th classes (as well as the CHILDREN of gay parents). Imagine a kid who is gay and who cannot talk to their parents about it. In a normal situation they could talk to a trusted teacher about it...but not in TN if this ridiculous law gets passed.
(It's only passed in the Senate. The House won't likely be picking it up until next year)
IF the House ends up passing this in the future and the Gov signs it, it will be immediately challenged as being unconstitutional.
Homosexuality deals with ones sexuality, rather than 'sex'. If you're going to allow teaching about that where does it end? If a child who is questioning their sexuality can't talk to their parents they can always talk to a counselor at school. That's what they're there for.
Perversion has nothing to do with race. Equating gay with race is an excuse when you know it is wrong. Gay is a perversion period.Some would say the same about illiterate racist fuckwits.If homosexuals really cared about children they wouldn't want to show them their ways.
I will say it again, perversion has no place in schools.And youre obsessed with exhibiting your ignorance.Homosexuals are obsessed with showing children their sexual ways.
Otherwise this idiocy does nothing to further education in a state Im sure whose schools are in need of improvement.
Homosexuality is a biological fact. There WILL BE gay kids in those K-8th classes (as well as the CHILDREN of gay parents). Imagine a kid who is gay and who cannot talk to their parents about it. In a normal situation they could talk to a trusted teacher about it...but not in TN if this ridiculous law gets passed.
(It's only passed in the Senate. The House won't likely be picking it up until next year)
IF the House ends up passing this in the future and the Gov signs it, it will be immediately challenged as being unconstitutional.
Homosexuality deals with ones sexuality, rather than 'sex'. If you're going to allow teaching about that where does it end? If a child who is questioning their sexuality can't talk to their parents they can always talk to a counselor at school. That's what they're there for.
NOT if this law gets passed they can't. That's the WHOLE point.
A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.
Perversion has nothing to do with race. Equating gay with race is an excuse when you know it is wrong. Gay is a perversion period.Some would say the same about illiterate racist fuckwits.If homosexuals really cared about children they wouldn't want to show them their ways.
Homosexuality deals with ones sexuality, rather than 'sex'. If you're going to allow teaching about that where does it end? If a child who is questioning their sexuality can't talk to their parents they can always talk to a counselor at school. That's what they're there for.
NOT if this law gets passed they can't. That's the WHOLE point.
From the link:
A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.
Doesn't say anything about students not being able to talk to a counselor. That's what counselors are there for . . . so the kids have someone to talk to about their 'issues/problems/struggles'.
NOT if this law gets passed they can't. That's the WHOLE point.
From the link:
A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.
Doesn't say anything about students not being able to talk to a counselor. That's what counselors are there for . . . so the kids have someone to talk to about their 'issues/problems/struggles'.
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level.
What of the teacher that IS gay. Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
NOT if this law gets passed they can't. That's the WHOLE point.
From the link:
A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.
Doesn't say anything about students not being able to talk to a counselor. That's what counselors are there for . . . so the kids have someone to talk to about their 'issues/problems/struggles'.
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level.
What of the teacher that IS gay. Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
Remember, we're talking up to age 13 here. And what difference does it make who someone (adult) sleeps with? It's no one elses business.
From the link:
Doesn't say anything about students not being able to talk to a counselor. That's what counselors are there for . . . so the kids have someone to talk to about their 'issues/problems/struggles'.
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level.
What of the teacher that IS gay. Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
Any school I've encountered have had separate counselors, even in the grade schools. If it's the case where a teacher is also a counselor then that would need to be addressed. If the child talked to the teacher outside of the classroom situation and in a counselor setting I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I don't know the exact wording of the bill, do you?
Why would a teacher go around talking about their preference of sexual partners to a bunch of children???
Perversion has nothing to do with race. Equating gay with race is an excuse when you know it is wrong. Gay is a perversion period.Some would say the same about illiterate racist fuckwits.
Only simpletons think this is a comparison between gay and race. It is a comparison of discrimination vs discrimination.
(BTW...the women's rights movement wasn't a comparison of sex vs. race either...it was discrimination vs discrimination)
NOT if this law gets passed they can't. That's the WHOLE point.
From the link:
A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.
Doesn't say anything about students not being able to talk to a counselor. That's what counselors are there for . . . so the kids have someone to talk to about their 'issues/problems/struggles'.
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level?
What of the teacher that IS gay? Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level.
What of the teacher that IS gay. Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
Any school I've encountered have had separate counselors, even in the grade schools. If it's the case where a teacher is also a counselor then that would need to be addressed. If the child talked to the teacher outside of the classroom situation and in a counselor setting I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I don't know the exact wording of the bill, do you?
Why would a teacher go around talking about their preference of sexual partners to a bunch of children???
So you didn't know which of your teachers was married or had kids? Really? My teachers often brought their spouses to school events. Yours didn't?
It's a stupid, backwards law that doesn't belong in the 21st century. Do you think these kids don't watch Glee or listen to Lady Gaga?
Backwards law for backwards thinking folks. Sad...
Counselors ARE teachers more often than not. With school cutbacks, how many schools even HAVE counselors, especially at the K-8th level.
What of the teacher that IS gay. Are they not allowed to say that they are? Violation of free speech don't you think?
Any school I've encountered have had separate counselors, even in the grade schools. If it's the case where a teacher is also a counselor then that would need to be addressed. If the child talked to the teacher outside of the classroom situation and in a counselor setting I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I don't know the exact wording of the bill, do you?
Why would a teacher go around talking about their preference of sexual partners to a bunch of children???
So you didn't know which of your teachers was married or had kids? Really? My teachers often brought their spouses to school events. Yours didn't?
It's a stupid, backwards law that doesn't belong in the 21st century. Do you think these kids don't watch Glee or listen to Lady Gaga?
Backwards law for backwards thinking folks. Sad...
Perversion has nothing to do with race. Equating gay with race is an excuse when you know it is wrong. Gay is a perversion period.
Only simpletons think this is a comparison between gay and race. It is a comparison of discrimination vs discrimination.
(BTW...the women's rights movement wasn't a comparison of sex vs. race either...it was discrimination vs discrimination)
You're right only a simpleton would compare your struggle to have your sin recognized as a okay to the struggle blacks endured to be recognized as human beings. Which is why we make fun of gays who do so.
Only simpletons think this is a comparison between gay and race. It is a comparison of discrimination vs discrimination.
(BTW...the women's rights movement wasn't a comparison of sex vs. race either...it was discrimination vs discrimination)
You're right only a simpleton would compare your struggle to have your sin recognized as a okay to the struggle blacks endured to be recognized as human beings. Which is why we make fun of gays who do so.
There you have it, folks...an attempt to have civil law regulate what some religion determines is wrong...even tho it is between consenting law-abiding, tax-paying citizens. Who will they determine is "sinful" next?
Any school I've encountered have had separate counselors, even in the grade schools. If it's the case where a teacher is also a counselor then that would need to be addressed. If the child talked to the teacher outside of the classroom situation and in a counselor setting I should think this wouldn't be a problem. I don't know the exact wording of the bill, do you?
Why would a teacher go around talking about their preference of sexual partners to a bunch of children???
So you didn't know which of your teachers was married or had kids? Really? My teachers often brought their spouses to school events. Yours didn't?
It's a stupid, backwards law that doesn't belong in the 21st century. Do you think these kids don't watch Glee or listen to Lady Gaga?
Backwards law for backwards thinking folks. Sad...
A teacher being married or not vs. discussing one's preference for sleeping partner isn't the same thing. And if a heterosexual teacher talked about their preference of sexual partners to a bunch of children I'd be just as outraged.
The bolded . . . . that, right there, is a big part of the problem. A 12 year old is still a child and shouldn't be watching Glee, which frequently has more adult storylines. Again this falls into the 'lack of parenting by parents' category. Seems to be what many parents do these days. You're right . . . it is quite sad.
wow... racist *and* homophobic.
you've got issues.
Nothing racist in the comment. Nor necessarily homophobic.
Want to try again?
I see no mention of race, and calling aberrant behavior aberrant behavior is just logic and fact and the truth. Homophobic is a word you lefties like to sling around like it matters.
Normal is normal. Abnormal ain't. Simple fact.
racist in that particular comment? no. but he's one of our board racists. i'd think you'd know that. he proudly makes every thread of his an opportunity to bash those of what he considers "lesser races"
so no, i wouldn't want to try again.
normal is what's found in nature. homosexuality is found in nature and is normal for approximately 10% of the population.
perhaps YOU would like to try again instead of defending racist homophobes.
