temple mount

[Sixties Fan]

[Muslims think they have won over the Jews. What have they won?
Or have they only shown how unimportant the Temple Mount is to them, where they will continue to have picnics, play soccer and attack all who dare to say that they are not "sovereign" over the Temple? "Third Holiest Islamic sight" ? Or only another place where Muslims demand that they are in control, and no one else?
The whole world is unimportant to Muslims. But control of all of it is what matters most]

At least 56 people were injured in the Old City of Jerusalem Thursday, shortly after Muslim worshippers returned to the Temple Mountfollowing a nearly two-week ban by Muslim authorities on prayer at the holy site.

Riots broke out within minutes as thousands of Muslims flooded the Temple Mount, attacking police officers who responded with crowd-control measures including tear gas, shock grenades, and rubber bullets.

(full article online)

Arabs riot on Temple Mount after metal detectors removed

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[aris2chat]

 

[Eloy]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

 

[Hollie]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

Arabs-Moslems are always outraged about something. This episode of Moslem Rage 2017 ™ (July edition), was about the Israelis decision to take the steps required to prevent Arabs-Moslems from using religious / historical sites as places to commit murder and mayhem. Arabs-Moslems defiling / destroying religious and cultural sites should not surprise anyone. They have a long, lurid history of such behavior.

 

[Shusha]

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

I am SO tired of this whole "clash" language.

The Muslims are not "worshiping", and therefore are not "worshipers". They are rioting and are "rioters". The police are, correctly, containing rioters and protecting innocent citizens from rioters.

 

[jillian]

Most muslims are praying outside at the base of the mount.
A few are entering and praying on the mount.

Palestinians are only hurting themselves. Nothing says they have to pray in a mosque. Other muslims around the world go through metal detectors to pray regularly, even in Mecca.

If muslims don't want to pray on the mount, I'm sure jews and christian will want to.

I think all should pray there if they want, regardless of faith.

Metal detectors are away of life at religious sites around the world. Terrorist have made them a necessity.

the pals killed Israeli soldiers

in response metal detectors were set up

now they're whining because they can't kill soldiers.

I'd say that's tough.

 

[Shusha]

The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria ....

RENAMED Judea and Samaria? RENAMED? You mean to say the name has been restored. The name "West Bank" is the violation here.

 

[Shusha]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

 

[Sixties Fan]

He lambasted the German press for “routinely interchanging perpetrator and victim.” Reichelt cited the example of the German public news show Tagesschau’s rationale for terrorism against Israeli Jews.

“The Taggeschau permitted the father of a young Palestinian, who slaughtered a Jewish family, to justify his son because the ‘honor of Muslims’ is endangered.”

His media criticism took headline writers to task. “When terrorists attack soldiers, it reads: ‘Two Palestinians killed by Israeli military action.’ That is as if one would write about the terrorist from Nice: ‘Truck driver shot by police.’”

Reichelt noted that “Israel is on the front line in the battle against a murderous ideology that envisions annihilation of us... we Germans should back the Israelis in this battle instead of expecting that they nicely allow themselves to be destroyed.”

He said that it is forgotten that drastic security controls in front of shopping centers, airports and cafés in the entire world are not necessary because the Catholic Church became radicalized, but rather because the Islamic world clearly shows too much tolerance for those who in the name of their God blow themselves up.”

Reichelt warned that the media attacks on Israel reveal a withdrawal from historical responsibility.

(full article online)

Major German paper: Media turning Palestinian terrorists into victims

 

[Eloy]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

 

[Sixties Fan]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

This is how much Eloy knows about the issue:

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank"

Fatah controls the "West Bank"?

All of it?

How about only areas A and B, as per the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Arabs?

Here is a quick lesson:

Knowing your ABC

The differences between areas A, B and C, all pertaining to Judea and Samaria, are relatively simple.

Area A is the space in which the PA has political and military jurisdiction over its residents – all of whom are Arab.

This includes all of the major towns and their immediate environs – with the partial exception of Jewish Hebron, which came under exclusive Israeli control in the 1997 Hebron protocol between Israel and the PLO. This area comprises approximately 18 percent of Judea and Samaria’s land mass.

According to the Oslo Accords, the PA was never given jurisdiction over Israeli citizens and foreign nationals.

Israeli citizens have the right to enter and pass through Area A unmolested, provided that they are not involved in illicit activity, in which case the PA can only temporarily apprehend them until they are transferred to the Israeli authorities. Joint Israeli-PA patrols were intended to handle these cases.

THE NEXT letter in the alphabet signified less built-up areas, many of which shared their space with settlements created in the massive settlement drive in the 1980s launched by the Likud government. Area B comprises approximately 22% of Judea and Samaria.

In Area B, Israel and the PA share jurisdiction.

Israel enjoys exclusive jurisdiction over the Jewish inhabitants and exclusive authority over security for both its Arab and Jewish inhabitants. The PA has political, administrative and police jurisdiction over the Arab inhabitants. They are subject to its laws, pay the necessary taxes and benefit from the same public services the PA provides in Area A.

Strictly speaking, only the IDF and the Israel Police can make arrests in these areas.

MOST OF geographic Judea and Samaria (60% of the area) is designated Area C, over which Israel has exclusive jurisdiction both administratively and in security matters.

Area C’s distinguishing characteristic is that it is sparsely populated – by Arab or Jewish inhabitants.

Most of this area lies east of the populated mountain spine from Jenin in the north to Hebron in the south. The eastern slopes descending and including the Jordan Valley are characterized by harsh climate and low to no rainfall. The Jordan Valley, the South Hebron Hills and the area in the vicinity of Ma’aleh Adumim – from east of Mount Scopus to Jericho – are by far the most politically contested spaces in Area C, due to both Jewish settlement and Israeli security concerns.

IT IS clear that the alphabetic division of the area reflected Israeli geostrategic logic more than Palestinian interests and that Israel had the upper hand in the negotiation process.

The division was supposed to facilitate Israeli security control, while relieving Israel of the burden of caring for the area’s Arab inhabitants.

Before signing off on the formal division into areas A, B and C, it is important to note what was left out of the alphabet – the letter “J” for Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem in the relevant legal documents was mentioned only as one of five crucial issues that were to be resolved in the final talks.

This meant that Jerusalem remained formally under exclusive Israeli jurisdiction.

 

[Sixties Fan]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

The "Palestinians"see absolutely nothing.
They have seen as much as Arabs, Muslims, at anytime of their existence since the 7th Century CE, or the Palestinian existence since 1964 CE

Arabs never cared for the Land of Israel. All they cared about, as in every other land they invaded and conquered, was that that land was never lost to Muslims.

Like with any other group, they win some and lose some.

But Muslims are very sore losers.

They continue, to this day, to talk about retaking Andalusia and all other lands conquered by Muslims, be it the Arabs, the Turks, or anyone else.

Muslims are sore losers .
Arabs are sore losers.
"Palestinians are sore losers.

All three are bound together by an Islamic ideology of supremacy over all other religions and ideologies, over all the people in the world.


Got it now?

 

[Eloy]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

This is how much Eloy knows about the issue:

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank"

Fatah controls the "West Bank"?

All of it?

How about only areas A and B, as per the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Arabs?

Here is a quick lesson:

Knowing your ABC

The differences between areas A, B and C, all pertaining to Judea and Samaria, are relatively simple.

Area A is the space in which the PA has political and military jurisdiction over its residents – all of whom are Arab.

This includes all of the major towns and their immediate environs – with the partial exception of Jewish Hebron, which came under exclusive Israeli control in the 1997 Hebron protocol between Israel and the PLO. This area comprises approximately 18 percent of Judea and Samaria’s land mass.

According to the Oslo Accords, the PA was never given jurisdiction over Israeli citizens and foreign nationals.

Israeli citizens have the right to enter and pass through Area A unmolested, provided that they are not involved in illicit activity, in which case the PA can only temporarily apprehend them until they are transferred to the Israeli authorities. Joint Israeli-PA patrols were intended to handle these cases.

THE NEXT letter in the alphabet signified less built-up areas, many of which shared their space with settlements created in the massive settlement drive in the 1980s launched by the Likud government. Area B comprises approximately 22% of Judea and Samaria.

In Area B, Israel and the PA share jurisdiction.

Israel enjoys exclusive jurisdiction over the Jewish inhabitants and exclusive authority over security for both its Arab and Jewish inhabitants. The PA has political, administrative and police jurisdiction over the Arab inhabitants. They are subject to its laws, pay the necessary taxes and benefit from the same public services the PA provides in Area A.

Strictly speaking, only the IDF and the Israel Police can make arrests in these areas.

MOST OF geographic Judea and Samaria (60% of the area) is designated Area C, over which Israel has exclusive jurisdiction both administratively and in security matters.

Area C’s distinguishing characteristic is that it is sparsely populated – by Arab or Jewish inhabitants.

Most of this area lies east of the populated mountain spine from Jenin in the north to Hebron in the south. The eastern slopes descending and including the Jordan Valley are characterized by harsh climate and low to no rainfall. The Jordan Valley, the South Hebron Hills and the area in the vicinity of Ma’aleh Adumim – from east of Mount Scopus to Jericho – are by far the most politically contested spaces in Area C, due to both Jewish settlement and Israeli security concerns.

IT IS clear that the alphabetic division of the area reflected Israeli geostrategic logic more than Palestinian interests and that Israel had the upper hand in the negotiation process.

The division was supposed to facilitate Israeli security control, while relieving Israel of the burden of caring for the area’s Arab inhabitants.

Before signing off on the formal division into areas A, B and C, it is important to note what was left out of the alphabet – the letter “J” for Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem in the relevant legal documents was mentioned only as one of five crucial issues that were to be resolved in the final talks.

This meant that Jerusalem remained formally under exclusive Israeli jurisdiction.

You are not criticizing my words since I was quoting from the news source red.24.

 

[Sixties Fan]

More Trouble expected at Noble Sanctuary (Temple Mount) tomorrow

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank, has called for a ‘Day of Rage’ on 28 July in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The purpose of the action is to protest ongoing security measures implemented by Israeli authorities at the entrance to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary complex in East Jerusalem’s Old City."
Situation report: Day of Rage protests expected in Palestine - opinion.red24.com

The Israelis' attitude toward the Palestinians has be founded on taking their land to establish a sectarian Jewish state.
Half a century ago this was compounded by the blockading of Gaza followed by periodic massacres of children and civilians.
The West Bank has also been occupied, renamed Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem has been annexed.
Settlements will also be annexed to Israel and the indigenous Palestinians are being kept in reservations.
To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.
The Palestinians are outraged at long last.

Jewish police clash with Muslim worshipers at the Noble Sanctuary on Thursday

This is how much Eloy knows about the issue:

"The Palestinian group Fatah, which controls the West Bank"

Fatah controls the "West Bank"?

All of it?

How about only areas A and B, as per the Oslo Accords of 1993 between Israel and the Arabs?

Here is a quick lesson:

Knowing your ABC

The differences between areas A, B and C, all pertaining to Judea and Samaria, are relatively simple.

Area A is the space in which the PA has political and military jurisdiction over its residents – all of whom are Arab.

This includes all of the major towns and their immediate environs – with the partial exception of Jewish Hebron, which came under exclusive Israeli control in the 1997 Hebron protocol between Israel and the PLO. This area comprises approximately 18 percent of Judea and Samaria’s land mass.

According to the Oslo Accords, the PA was never given jurisdiction over Israeli citizens and foreign nationals.

Israeli citizens have the right to enter and pass through Area A unmolested, provided that they are not involved in illicit activity, in which case the PA can only temporarily apprehend them until they are transferred to the Israeli authorities. Joint Israeli-PA patrols were intended to handle these cases.

THE NEXT letter in the alphabet signified less built-up areas, many of which shared their space with settlements created in the massive settlement drive in the 1980s launched by the Likud government. Area B comprises approximately 22% of Judea and Samaria.

In Area B, Israel and the PA share jurisdiction.

Israel enjoys exclusive jurisdiction over the Jewish inhabitants and exclusive authority over security for both its Arab and Jewish inhabitants. The PA has political, administrative and police jurisdiction over the Arab inhabitants. They are subject to its laws, pay the necessary taxes and benefit from the same public services the PA provides in Area A.

Strictly speaking, only the IDF and the Israel Police can make arrests in these areas.

MOST OF geographic Judea and Samaria (60% of the area) is designated Area C, over which Israel has exclusive jurisdiction both administratively and in security matters.

Area C’s distinguishing characteristic is that it is sparsely populated – by Arab or Jewish inhabitants.

Most of this area lies east of the populated mountain spine from Jenin in the north to Hebron in the south. The eastern slopes descending and including the Jordan Valley are characterized by harsh climate and low to no rainfall. The Jordan Valley, the South Hebron Hills and the area in the vicinity of Ma’aleh Adumim – from east of Mount Scopus to Jericho – are by far the most politically contested spaces in Area C, due to both Jewish settlement and Israeli security concerns.

IT IS clear that the alphabetic division of the area reflected Israeli geostrategic logic more than Palestinian interests and that Israel had the upper hand in the negotiation process.

The division was supposed to facilitate Israeli security control, while relieving Israel of the burden of caring for the area’s Arab inhabitants.

Before signing off on the formal division into areas A, B and C, it is important to note what was left out of the alphabet – the letter “J” for Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem in the relevant legal documents was mentioned only as one of five crucial issues that were to be resolved in the final talks.

This meant that Jerusalem remained formally under exclusive Israeli jurisdiction.

You are not criticizing my words since I was quoting from the news source red.24.

No, I was not criticizing your words. I was pointing out exactly what is written in that article, and you posted that article specifically for a reason.

There is no way that you do not believe what is written on it, or you would not have posted it.

You have no idea as to when Judea and Samaria were Judea and Samaria or when the name West Bank came to be used. Or do you?

Didi you know the meaning of areas A, B, and C?

Of the Oslo Accords?

The person who wrote that article certainly does not.

 

[Eloy]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

The "Palestinians"see absolutely nothing.
They have seen as much as Arabs, Muslims, at anytime of their existence since the 7th Century CE, or the Palestinian existence since 1964 CE ...
They continue, to this day, to talk about retaking Andalusia and all other lands conquered by Muslims ...

Andalucía is safe in the hands of the Spanish Air Force.


F18 Hornet Tiger Spanish Demo Team

 

[Sixties Fan]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

The "Palestinians"see absolutely nothing.
They have seen as much as Arabs, Muslims, at anytime of their existence since the 7th Century CE, or the Palestinian existence since 1964 CE ...
They continue, to this day, to talk about retaking Andalusia and all other lands conquered by Muslims ...

Andalucía is safe in the hands of the Spanish Air Force.


F18 Hornet Tiger Spanish Demo Team

And to you, that is the point, from everything I wrote?

Would you answer the questions I put in my post?
About the Areas, the Oslo Accord, your knowledge about anything pertaining to them?

 

[Eloy]

To unilaterally move into the grounds of the Noble Sanctuary, Islam's third holiest site under the authority of Jordan, with gates and cameras as if Israel owned it, was rubbing salt in an open wound.

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

The "Palestinians"see absolutely nothing.
They have seen as much as Arabs, Muslims, at anytime of their existence since the 7th Century CE, or the Palestinian existence since 1964 CE ...
They continue, to this day, to talk about retaking Andalusia and all other lands conquered by Muslims ...

Andalucía is safe in the hands of the Spanish Air Force.


F18 Hornet Tiger Spanish Demo Team

And to you, that is the point, from everything I wrote?

Would you answer the questions I put in my post?
About the Areas, the Oslo Accord, your knowledge about anything pertaining to them?

Lots of what you wrote has been covered in other topics.
My post is to highlight the expected trouble at the Noble Sanctuary in a matter of only hours from now and to give my take on it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israel has NEVER relinquished sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Israel has generously and with great respect for Muslim sensitivities, permitted Jordan to have caretakership over the Temple Mount. If you read the treaty between Israel and Jordan, the "status quo" is a courtesy granted by Israel to Jordan. (Not to Palestinians -- to Jordan).

The salt on the open wound is the absolute gall that Palestinians should be permitted open and free access to a holy and sacred place for at LEAST two religions and bring violence and murder and bloodshed there. The salt on the open wound is the insistence on a continued state of apartheid on the Temple Mount wherein the treaty (international law!) is ignored in favour of Muslim exclusivity and discrimination against all other faiths, including the one from which the holy place was stolen. The salt on the wound is the very idea that protection from terrorists is an afront to Muslims. The salt on the wound is the ridiculous inversion of who is acting in a morally abhorrent fashion here.

The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes.

The "Palestinians"see absolutely nothing.
They have seen as much as Arabs, Muslims, at anytime of their existence since the 7th Century CE, or the Palestinian existence since 1964 CE ...
They continue, to this day, to talk about retaking Andalusia and all other lands conquered by Muslims ...

Andalucía is safe in the hands of the Spanish Air Force.


F18 Hornet Tiger Spanish Demo Team

And to you, that is the point, from everything I wrote?

Would you answer the questions I put in my post?
About the Areas, the Oslo Accord, your knowledge about anything pertaining to them?

Lots of what you wrote has been covered in other topics.
My post is to highlight the expected trouble at the Noble Sanctuary in a matter of only hours from now and to give my take on it.

This is your perspective?

"The Palestinian people see it differently to you and Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective leads to clashes."

You have said absolutely nothing. And I do mean Nothing.

What you said in that sentence is as devoid of facts, as that article you chose to post.

Are you going to answer my questions about the article you chose to post, or are you just going to continue to run from discussing anything?

"Israeli disregard for the Palestinian perspective"

You are just as ignorant today as you were the day you were born.

Congratulations !